1Ailuropoda melanoleuca ★ID:xL8cococ92023/07/07(金) 16:58:14.55
2023年7月7日 15:51
２ちゃんねるの元管理人で実業家のひろゆき氏が７日、自身のツイッターを更新。実質賃金が１４か月連続で減少したニュースを引き合いにして〝ひろゆき節〟で皮肉った。
「５月の実質賃金は１４か月連続で減少。国民が強制的に徴収される税金は、過去最高税収を更新。自民党と公明党の政権を支持してる低収入の庶民は『肉屋を応援する豚』なのかな？」
ひろゆき氏のワードセンスに「言葉の威力がすごすぎる」「うまいたとえ」「我々もブーブー言いたくなる」などとネット民は感心の声があがっている。
財務省は今月３日、昨年度の税収７１兆円で過去最高を更新したことを発表。決算剰余金２兆６２９４億円で、少なくともこの半分は、法律の規定に基づいて国債の償還にあてられた上で、残りは防衛力強化のための財源として活用される見込みだという。肉屋の防衛力が強化されるということか――。
https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/articles/-/268847
ひろゆき氏 実質賃金の１４か月連続減少に痛烈皮肉 自公支持者は「肉屋を応援する豚なのかな？」 | 東スポWEB２ちゃんねるの元管理人で実業家のひろゆき氏が７日、自身のツイッターを更新...www.tokyo-sports.co.jp
引用元:https://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1688716694/
70名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ys14YBRO0
>>1
俺は自民支持じゃないが、それなりに庶民が潤って貧乏人もそこそこの生活できるなら自民政権で良いと思ってた
それが今や貧困蔓延しててメシもまどに食えない子ども増えてるんだから自民公明の支持率下げないとマトモな政策やらんだろ
これ以上2/3以上の議席与えたら腐り果てるわ
俺は自民支持じゃないが、それなりに庶民が潤って貧乏人もそこそこの生活できるなら自民政権で良いと思ってた
それが今や貧困蔓延しててメシもまどに食えない子ども増えてるんだから自民公明の支持率下げないとマトモな政策やらんだろ
これ以上2/3以上の議席与えたら腐り果てるわ
114名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sUXBx/lO0
>>1
ミンスよりマシなんだけど？
ナチュラルバカなの？
あたまパヨチン壺なの？
ミンスよりマシなんだけど？
ナチュラルバカなの？
あたまパヨチン壺なの？
131名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uETv09NI0
>>1
元から自民への支持率が低い東京と自民離れしようとしている大阪
どうするネトウヨ？
元から自民への支持率が低い東京と自民離れしようとしている大阪
どうするネトウヨ？
151名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:J6p0DBRY0
>>1
日本国民が肉屋を支持する家畜ってのは
昔から言われてる常識なんだけど
ひろゆきが考えたことになってんのか
うまくやったなw
日本国民が肉屋を支持する家畜ってのは
昔から言われてる常識なんだけど
ひろゆきが考えたことになってんのか
うまくやったなw
239名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KZt7Hpwu0
>>1
そういうこと
搾取されている自覚のないバカが多い
だから世襲議員が大きな顔ができる
そういうこと
搾取されている自覚のないバカが多い
だから世襲議員が大きな顔ができる
249名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:edO+NHyR0
>>1
そんなことよりお前はフランスの状況を中継しろよ
まだフランスにいるつもりなんだろ
そんなことよりお前はフランスの状況を中継しろよ
まだフランスにいるつもりなんだろ
354名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RWEKG8hf0
>>1
でもさ
立憲民主は共産党と選挙協力
するんだぜ
立憲民主党は無理ゲー
でもさ
立憲民主は共産党と選挙協力
するんだぜ
立憲民主党は無理ゲー
維新にかけるか、、ヤレヤレだ
387OMGID:XooHoga70
>>354
現実見ようぜネトウヨw
現実見ようぜネトウヨw
365名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Vtp8pH1N0
>>1
西村は反日共産主義者か？！🏺
西村は反日共産主義者か？！🏺
372名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BlnSwzYa0
>>1
馬鹿だなあ
その肉を安く食える関係者に決まってるだろ
税金をばらまくってよく言うだろ
つまりそのばら撒かれる税金を拾ってる人間がたくさんいるんだよ
馬鹿だなあ
その肉を安く食える関係者に決まってるだろ
税金をばらまくってよく言うだろ
つまりそのばら撒かれる税金を拾ってる人間がたくさんいるんだよ
384名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZPCr/fs/0
>>1
ひろゆきは国民民主支持って感じなんかな？
立憲れいわ共産参政はあり得ないってスタンスだもんね
ひろゆきは国民民主支持って感じなんかな？
立憲れいわ共産参政はあり得ないってスタンスだもんね
472名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/JgpHLoX0
>>1
フランスにいるお前に関係ねえじゃん
フランスにいるお前に関係ねえじゃん
483名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3824wLuX0
>>1
フランスにいないのか？
どこに逃げたんだよ
フランスにいないのか？
どこに逃げたんだよ
560名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jrpaVai20
>>1
統一教会票は強いよ
統一教会票は強いよ
577名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mZ4zqNuh0
>>1
まあ、何も考えず勝ち馬に乗りたいだけってのも本当にいるからね
ロクに投票も行かないクズよりはマシだけどw
まあ、何も考えず勝ち馬に乗りたいだけってのも本当にいるからね
ロクに投票も行かないクズよりはマシだけどw
610名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:88vg/b2+0
>>1
共産党を支持すると定期的な寄付と赤旗の購読とチラシ配りや街宣の手伝い
共産党を支持すると定期的な寄付と赤旗の購読とチラシ配りや街宣の手伝い
公明党は聖教新聞の購読に寄付に集会の参加にチラシ配り
れいわは寄付金がわりと高額で街宣の手伝い
立憲は候補によるらしいがチラシ配りと街宣手伝い
いろいろ考えると自民党支持が財布に一番優しい
2名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Tl00EyFs02023/07/07(金) 16:59:23.78
完全に
ハイパースタグフ
ハイパースタグフ
3名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kw/dNNMy02023/07/07(金) 16:59:32.07
違います「壺屋を応援するカルト」です
11名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4CQhHOb/0
>>3
道民からしたら物凄い風評被害ｗｗｗ
道民からしたら物凄い風評被害ｗｗｗ
4名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:53VJ0Lrh02023/07/07(金) 16:59:32.69
フランス革命
5名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4LqTiDtX02023/07/07(金) 17:00:28.45
野党にやらせたらもっと下がるからなぁ
10名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NMQvVHRw0
>>5
なお、民主党政権下より
実質賃金は下がってる模様ｗ
なお、民主党政権下より
実質賃金は下がってる模様ｗ
133名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PrX9jiOH0
>>10
民主党の時みたいに失業者増えれば実質賃金は上がるよ
民主党の時みたいに失業者増えれば実質賃金は上がるよ
180名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:q6JZDALP0
>>133
失業率が最悪（5.5％）だったのは麻生政権の末期で、2009年8月の民主党政権から下がり始めた。
どちらにしろリーマンショックだが
失業率が最悪（5.5％）だったのは麻生政権の末期で、2009年8月の民主党政権から下がり始めた。
どちらにしろリーマンショックだが
357名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NMQvVHRw0
>>133
失業者が増えれば実質賃金が上がる？
そんな関係性ないぞｗ
失業者が増えれば実質賃金が上がる？
そんな関係性ないぞｗ
626名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QuCgz2I40
>>10
民主党政権では企業業績がだだ下がりだったけど
民主党政権では企業業績がだだ下がりだったけど
6名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NMQvVHRw02023/07/07(金) 17:00:46.20
自民党の支持者とか
アホか反日カルトかどっちかだろｗ
アホか反日カルトかどっちかだろｗ
7名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:u4zeymZQ02023/07/07(金) 17:01:11.31
じゃあどこに投票するか政党言ってみ
はい論破
はい論破
92名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ADxEbswy0
>>7
これよな
投票行かなかったら行かなかったで文句言う癖にさ
これよな
投票行かなかったら行かなかったで文句言う癖にさ
210名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:d7kh/X040
>>92
その理論でずっと入れてたけど
もう自民はダメかも
その理論でずっと入れてたけど
もう自民はダメかも
363名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:M5YYY8hj0
>>210
『かも』って遅すぎるだろお前
『かも』って遅すぎるだろお前
476名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RlGQRoT+0
>>7
政党の問題じゃないからな
財務省を始めとする役人と、そこと密接につながってる大企業らと、それらとべったりな政党問わずの族議員が問題
政党の問題じゃないからな
財務省を始めとする役人と、そこと密接につながってる大企業らと、それらとべったりな政党問わずの族議員が問題
ひろゆきはその肝心なところをスルーして、安全な発言しかしない
482名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ouDMohFM0
>>476
所詮税務署員の息子だからね
所詮税務署員の息子だからね
8名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FmNGGRA502023/07/07(金) 17:01:14.48
みんなが聞きたいのはそんなことじゃない
86名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fusR244h0
>>8
都合が悪くなると話をすり替える癖は治らないね
都合が悪くなると話をすり替える癖は治らないね
9名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Oxk3fMWb02023/07/07(金) 17:01:25.31
鉄を喰え、飢えた狼よ
死んでも豚には喰いつくな
死んでも豚には喰いつくな
12名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HzDEyJWu02023/07/07(金) 17:01:52.52
暴動略奪よりはマシだからセーフ
13名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MLSOeMBE02023/07/07(金) 17:02:26.88
ここまで来ると民主党時代の方がマシだったかも？
って思う
って思う
23名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IzJ1RW8I0
>>13
それは禁句だから…
それは禁句だから…
279名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NEj8vfMX0
>>13
ツボ信者が発狂するぞ
ツボ信者が発狂するぞ
304名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RGg2iORP0
>>13
不景気でいつクビが切られるかヒヤヒヤした時代だった。
不景気でいつクビが切られるかヒヤヒヤした時代だった。
382名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nnkSzfX20
>>304
あの時は給料下がって頭上に暗雲だったな
今は今で税金増えて手取りが上がらないんだが
あの時は給料下がって頭上に暗雲だったな
今は今で税金増えて手取りが上がらないんだが
395名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:EIukYp6o0
>>304
円高ってそういうもんだからね、お金の価値が高くなるって事はお金を手に入れにくくなるって事、だから当時は残業カット、ボーナスカット、昇給カット、人員カット、出勤日数カットで企業が副業するように従業員に懇願してたからね、ローンの破綻や自営業者の夜逃げも多発してたし当時営業職してたけど特に製造業と飲食業は酷いありさまだったよ
円高ってそういうもんだからね、お金の価値が高くなるって事はお金を手に入れにくくなるって事、だから当時は残業カット、ボーナスカット、昇給カット、人員カット、出勤日数カットで企業が副業するように従業員に懇願してたからね、ローンの破綻や自営業者の夜逃げも多発してたし当時営業職してたけど特に製造業と飲食業は酷いありさまだったよ
411名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:EBNKpYri0
>>304
それって民主党のせいじゃなくてリーマンのせいだよねｗ
それって民主党のせいじゃなくてリーマンのせいだよねｗ
418名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pg8RAKU40
>>13
リーマン後にアメリカもEUも即座に金融緩和始めたのになぜか頑なに拒んでた民主党だけはないっす
リーマン後にアメリカもEUも即座に金融緩和始めたのになぜか頑なに拒んでた民主党だけはないっす
509名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:o+ottXcB0
>>13
民主党時は間違いなく庶民は暮らしやすかった
週末なんかも店は混んでた
家電屋が激混みで店員つかまえるのが一苦労だったが今じゃ考えられないわな
政権交代してアベノミクスだとかやりだしでデパートが大盛況だとか騒がれたけど
どんどんデパート潰れたし、ヨーカドーみたいな総合スーパーも大量閉店して
替わりに業務スーパーや激安ドラッグストアが増えた
あの頃より食の量や質が下がったのは間違いない
民主党時は間違いなく庶民は暮らしやすかった
週末なんかも店は混んでた
家電屋が激混みで店員つかまえるのが一苦労だったが今じゃ考えられないわな
政権交代してアベノミクスだとかやりだしでデパートが大盛況だとか騒がれたけど
どんどんデパート潰れたし、ヨーカドーみたいな総合スーパーも大量閉店して
替わりに業務スーパーや激安ドラッグストアが増えた
あの頃より食の量や質が下がったのは間違いない
513名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jym9Q0qX0
>>509
アホか？
円高政策が原因で産業空洞化してたろ
アホか？
円高政策が原因で産業空洞化してたろ
国内の雇用崩壊の直接原因がミンス
556名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lCMBRfdG0
>>513
円高政策なんてものはない。今が意図的に超円安にしてるだけ
円高政策なんてものはない。今が意図的に超円安にしてるだけ
574名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:reZ5Qke70
>>556
円高政策というわけではないが、民主党の時代はもう少し緩和すべきだったよ
同様に今は本来であれば引き締めないといけない段階なんだが、日銀の前任者があまりに酷すぎてやれない状態になってるんだろう
なぜかバランスが大事って感覚の人がこの手のスレには皆無だね
円高政策というわけではないが、民主党の時代はもう少し緩和すべきだったよ
同様に今は本来であれば引き締めないといけない段階なんだが、日銀の前任者があまりに酷すぎてやれない状態になってるんだろう
なぜかバランスが大事って感覚の人がこの手のスレには皆無だね
585名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:M5bdanus0
>>574
そういって緩和したのがアベノミクスなわけだが
その結果が今の惨状なんだわ
壺ウヨのお前にとってはさぞ都合のいい状況なんだろうけどな
そういって緩和したのがアベノミクスなわけだが
その結果が今の惨状なんだわ
壺ウヨのお前にとってはさぞ都合のいい状況なんだろうけどな
14名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7qM2qYdk02023/07/07(金) 17:02:27.52
フランスでもっとでかい事起きてるのにそっちには触れないのか？
584名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mVhWiV5P0
>>14
自民党が移民受け入れまくった未来の日本の姿ですよね
自民党が移民受け入れまくった未来の日本の姿ですよね
15名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LWXImjzD02023/07/07(金) 17:02:57.97
https://i.imgur.com/svF0yqw.jpg
329名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:50meeqY80
>>15
これマ？
これマ？
505名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TsuRU+wD0
>>15
フランスのひろゆき？
フランスのひろゆき？
16名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:d8zWqXyV02023/07/07(金) 17:03:31.56
どこ応援したって実質賃金が上がるかよ
目先の話しかしないやつってホントアホだな
目先の話しかしないやつってホントアホだな
25名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:thv4ZRAG0
>>16
その先を見越して自民党に入れ続けた結果どうなりました？
その先を見越して自民党に入れ続けた結果どうなりました？
120名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:d8zWqXyV0
>>25
文章読めないの？
どこも変わらん
そもそも経済をどうやったら回復させられるかのビジョンが打ち出せてない
文章読めないの？
どこも変わらん
そもそも経済をどうやったら回復させられるかのビジョンが打ち出せてない
17名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BhGrHKip02023/07/07(金) 17:03:33.10
弱者男性ほど熱心な安倍信者だったしな
あいつら自民党や安倍と自分を同一視することで強くなったような錯覚に陥ってるんだろうけど、実態は自ら喜んで犬の首輪を付けてるだけなんだから悲しい
あいつら自民党や安倍と自分を同一視することで強くなったような錯覚に陥ってるんだろうけど、実態は自ら喜んで犬の首輪を付けてるだけなんだから悲しい
18名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rRld+sFg02023/07/07(金) 17:03:35.90
もう一回原発にバケツ水やらせるしかないのか、、
19名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0lKv36B002023/07/07(金) 17:04:52.01
https://www.parisettoi.fr/news/20230327-003/
大好きなフランスもインフレに賃金上昇追いついてないけどね
というかパリなんて大変なことになってて実質賃金どころじゃないだろw
2022年に賃金大幅上昇：インフレ率には及ばず、所得は実質減 | フランス情報メディアのET TOI（エトワ）3月24日に労働省調査機関DARESが発表した統計によると、ワーカー（ブルーカラー及びホワイトカラー）の1時間www.parisettoi.fr
20名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:udWq14hu02023/07/07(金) 17:05:00.12
9割がた黙認してるからね
21名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hTUGgLzf02023/07/07(金) 17:05:01.82
今の日本は革命か戦争でも起きんと変わらんよ
42名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4Tmqewp50
>>21
移民に変えてもらうしかない
移民に変えてもらうしかない
100名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1pOxEVxe0
>>42
そしてフランスのように暴動
そしてフランスのように暴動
126名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qzaoBIH50
>>21
そうだよなあ
歴史の流れってそうやって変わったわけだし
戦争が失くならない理由もそんな所にある
そうだよなあ
歴史の流れってそうやって変わったわけだし
戦争が失くならない理由もそんな所にある
なんせ長い間江戸幕府とかなが～いなが～い政権続けられる日本だもん
また何百年も耐え続けるんだろ
274名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RAqmhEUP0
>>21
もうそういう構造になってるからね
何かを変えると誰かが損する仕組みになってるから変えられない
もうそういう構造になってるからね
何かを変えると誰かが損する仕組みになってるから変えられない
564名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NepVKf3x0
>>21
一年前、狼煙はあがったんだけどな
一年前、狼煙はあがったんだけどな
22名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:En5K/Wv402023/07/07(金) 17:05:09.43
たらこは共産系だっけ？
27名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IzJ1RW8I0
>>22
維新
維新
24名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:o/TqKbBm02023/07/07(金) 17:05:27.86
バカなの？支持者は肉屋経営者でしょ
26名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A7D/SVC002023/07/07(金) 17:05:51.20
無能な人間とチンパンジーどちらに任せるかって話だろ
28名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VNGny5Fs02023/07/07(金) 17:06:13.66
残念ながら、じゃあこの政党に一度だけ任せてみようって政党が無いんだよね
この有り様でも最善解なんだ、もっと悲惨になる選択しかない
この有り様でも最善解なんだ、もっと悲惨になる選択しかない
29名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rgmX6fIe02023/07/07(金) 17:06:15.83
肉屋の店員を応援する豚であって肉屋と豚である事は出て行かない限り変わりはない
30名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6/N2rpIF02023/07/07(金) 17:06:27.28
どこが与党であれ、与野党が拮抗してないと
ロクな事にならない
国民がどちらか一方を勝たせ過ぎ
ロクな事にならない
国民がどちらか一方を勝たせ過ぎ
31名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xwha5blz02023/07/07(金) 17:07:16.45
アフリカ善行匂わせ旅行はまだやってるのかな
32名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5zUk9gDa02023/07/07(金) 17:07:29.93
関係ないフランスだして話そらしてるやつは豚
33名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:P6PVPzmZ02023/07/07(金) 17:07:59.79
正確には肉屋の豚をかすめ取るジジババ
34名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xZ2tXqtJ02023/07/07(金) 17:08:17.30
今自民支持する層なんて機械的に票入れてる世代だけでしょ
身内と海外にばら撒きまくってんのに見えない見えない野党がー野党がー繰り返すだけだし
身内と海外にばら撒きまくってんのに見えない見えない野党がー野党がー繰り返すだけだし
35名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vQy8liPJ02023/07/07(金) 17:08:32.63
知ってるか？
この国には肉屋しかねえんだよ
この国には肉屋しかねえんだよ
36名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9kRsifgU02023/07/07(金) 17:08:38.19
自民にしようが民主にしようが米国さんの傀儡なのは変わらない
117名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1pOxEVxe0
>>36
民主になったら中華だろ
民主になったら中華だろ
37名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kw/dNNMy02023/07/07(金) 17:09:03.09
政治は世襲で引き継ぐものが当たり前ではない海外
これもマイナンバーと同じで海外と合わせなきゃな自民党
38名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YrL4YpV202023/07/07(金) 17:09:26.77
ここからさらなる増税宣言したばっかだよな
39名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KaOFlv9l02023/07/07(金) 17:09:33.11
肉屋を応援する豚とはネトウヨのことですか！
40名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8NzIP4hD02023/07/07(金) 17:10:02.08
日本の低所得者の税率は受けてるサービスよりもかなり低いとの事だけどな
41名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bqBQNHJ/02023/07/07(金) 17:10:54.81
ホントホント。
数十年衰退は政治屋だけのせいじゃないわな。
国民の知能の問題。
数十年衰退は政治屋だけのせいじゃないわな。
国民の知能の問題。
43名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DZdat8cO02023/07/07(金) 17:11:07.69
今まで政権交代して良くなった試しがあるんか？
44名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cje9QtzQ02023/07/07(金) 17:11:44.34
言いたいことわからんのでもないんだけど、お気に入りらしい「肉屋を応援する豚」という表現に嫌悪感を感じてしまう。
45名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UuR3Gsdp02023/07/07(金) 17:11:49.22
前々からお前らよく言ってたよね肉屋がうんたらって
こんなんで賞賛されんならお前らもっと賞賛されるべきだわ
こんなんで賞賛されんならお前らもっと賞賛されるべきだわ
46名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cKNaNT+702023/07/07(金) 17:12:02.71
立憲や共産を応援することが
屠殺屋を応援する豚だからなぁ
屠殺屋を応援する豚だからなぁ
とはいえさすがに岸田は無理
しかしどこに入れたらいいのか
維新はクズも多いけど
維新くらいしかない
47名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kw/dNNMy02023/07/07(金) 17:12:18.61
自民公明に投票した年金受給者とか悪魔かよ
48名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SOMVCCrK02023/07/07(金) 17:13:16.32
フランス暴動について
49名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:889DOiz/02023/07/07(金) 17:14:08.10
豚＝各種カルト信者 ってことかな
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