350名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IQv76AJ+02023/07/17(月) 20:03:52.66
ピカソなんかは生前の女性関係が酷かったとかで作品の評価下げられそうじゃん
351名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ylru+vAj02023/07/17(月) 20:04:31.92
まだ生きてたのかよ、元気だなあ
352名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Pnv+n7yI02023/07/17(月) 20:04:44.48
というか欧米だと、ナチス賛美みたいなことを
ちょっとでも権力者が口にしたら即クビだよ
有力政治家だろうが、会社社長だろうが
こういう業績あったとか誰も庇わない
ちょっとでも権力者が口にしたら即クビだよ
有力政治家だろうが、会社社長だろうが
こういう業績あったとか誰も庇わない
357名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZihJgXYK0
>>352
そうだよね
あの強制収容所の酷い有様考えたら当然の事だけどね
そうだよね
あの強制収容所の酷い有様考えたら当然の事だけどね
353名無しさん@恐縮ですID:K1JLsnMj02023/07/17(月) 20:05:19.24
オッペンハイマー
354名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BhItLWEn02023/07/17(月) 20:05:48.98
賞をとったら犯罪しても許されるんかい?
356名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Pnv+n7yI02023/07/17(月) 20:06:18.05
これだけはちょっと口が滑ったは通用しないんだよね
359名無しさん@恐縮ですID:n+aibs2B02023/07/17(月) 20:07:00.86
ヒトラーのアウトバーン公共事業の業績認めていいのかな。
それはそれで揚げ足とりそうだけど田嶋さん
それはそれで揚げ足とりそうだけど田嶋さん
360名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oeOVg1bk02023/07/17(月) 20:07:22.14
数学のピタゴラスは異論を唱えた人に怒って
殺してしまったという
殺してしまったという
しかし、数学はピタゴラスに依存してるわけじゃないし
宇宙が誕生した時から
決まっている規則性が数学なわけで
367名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7X7Fefqz0
>>360
マジかよ俺もう三平方の定理の反例探すわ
マジかよ俺もう三平方の定理の反例探すわ
386名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HLiYV/ZM0
>>360
えっ!知らなかった
えっ!知らなかった
361名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bmHuw9fX02023/07/17(月) 20:07:22.54
殺人はダメだろアホか
362名無しさん@恐縮ですID:35r1+ekx02023/07/17(月) 20:07:31.73
俳優とノーベル賞受賞者は違うだろ。意義とか区別付かないかな?大丈夫?
363名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1ZUq3UxV02023/07/17(月) 20:07:37.09
配給元もしくはスポンサーに言って。
一般人に止める権利なんて無いから。
一般人に止める権利なんて無いから。
364名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NBRB3UtL02023/07/17(月) 20:08:07.29
何言ってんだ
365名無しさん@恐縮ですID:35r1+ekx02023/07/17(月) 20:08:25.74
っつか、犯罪を!犯すな!って話がそんっっなに難しいかよ?
366名無しさん@恐縮ですID:K1JLsnMj02023/07/17(月) 20:08:28.05
DNAの二重らせんは発見したワトソンは
黒人差別発言で研究所を追放されて
研究資金もストップになった
黒人差別発言で研究所を追放されて
研究資金もストップになった
368名無しさん@恐縮ですID:V5g7jQ6W02023/07/17(月) 20:08:44.42
坂の上の雲
唐沢版の白い巨塔
唐沢版の白い巨塔
頼むよ
369名無しさん@恐縮ですID:do6o30sM02023/07/17(月) 20:08:57.56
業績は残るけど役職は剥奪されるだろ
370名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/zJl3WoA02023/07/17(月) 20:09:04.72
うん
372名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Kp9JZh6V02023/07/17(月) 20:09:44.17
諸々のそもそも……
イメージ商売者と、社会貢献の類は、同じベクトルで扱っちゃいけんのちがう
差別以前に、社会ってそういうもんでもあるし
イメージ商売者と、社会貢献の類は、同じベクトルで扱っちゃいけんのちがう
差別以前に、社会ってそういうもんでもあるし
たかがタレント、スポンサー=視聴者に媚びて台本破れない立場だったくせに
知名度を盾にSNS等でイキリ始めるのも、平等云々より傲慢じゃないのかね
(利用するなという意味ではなく。同じユーザーとしてお互い様であるべきでは)
373名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uXNWuUNy02023/07/17(月) 20:09:47.73
一般人が犯罪して捕まっても仕事を解雇されないって世の中なら
芸能界ももっとゆるくて良いだろうな
芸能界ももっとゆるくて良いだろうな
389名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DuOsf9Xf0
>>373
芸能界の方がユルユルだもんね。
一般人が同じことやったら社会復帰自体が難しい。
芸能界の方がユルユルだもんね。
一般人が同じことやったら社会復帰自体が難しい。
374名無しさん@恐縮ですID:35r1+ekx02023/07/17(月) 20:10:04.90
こんな甘々なボーダーライン設けないと、犯罪を犯さないって事一つ出来ないのかよ?アタマ大丈夫かよ
375名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HM05mUy702023/07/17(月) 20:10:36.66
モザイクかけて放送すりゃーいい
376名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GUUXKcBr02023/07/17(月) 20:10:50.03
作品の公開停止とか
販売側の問題で
毎度毎度一般市民の無理解みたいな感じに報道するのやめてほしい
お仲間批判になるから問題にまともに組み合えないんだろうけど
販売側の問題で
毎度毎度一般市民の無理解みたいな感じに報道するのやめてほしい
お仲間批判になるから問題にまともに組み合えないんだろうけど
377名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RtQlV4Wz02023/07/17(月) 20:11:14.83
人類の宝レベルの俳優かしら?
378名無しさん@恐縮ですID:v3DlI7Rp02023/07/17(月) 20:11:16.36
最近は発言だけでも引きずり下ろすのが目的なのか、猛攻撃する人がいて怖い
381名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HLiYV/ZM0
>>378
わかる
わかる
379名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7X7Fefqz02023/07/17(月) 20:11:54.67
蘇我一族の功績は後世になって取り上げられてその受け皿となった厩戸皇子がたまたま大偉人になったってマジ?
380名無しさん@恐縮ですID:V1s6HLdL02023/07/17(月) 20:12:18.00
クレームがうざいから配信停止にします
ほとぼりが冷めたらまた配信します
ほとぼりが冷めたらまた配信します
この程度の理由ですから
配信停止に賛成する人は程度が知れる
404名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DuOsf9Xf0
>>380
いや、なければ困るってものでもないんで、これ。
社会のおこぼれの部分で生きてるんだから、せめて犯罪を犯さないくらいのことはしなさいというだけ。
いや、なければ困るってものでもないんで、これ。
社会のおこぼれの部分で生きてるんだから、せめて犯罪を犯さないくらいのことはしなさいというだけ。
382名無しさん@恐縮ですID:syDGLm3S02023/07/17(月) 20:12:53.56
何で娯楽とノーベル賞を一緒にしているの?
383名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uea9zj9L02023/07/17(月) 20:13:26.09
できれば自殺した作者の作品も教科書から削除してほしい
教育に悪い
教育に悪い
385名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3wZOU0BO02023/07/17(月) 20:13:51.31
まあ、過去作はともかく、現行作品や制作進行中は
出演者のイメージも含めて作品という見方もあるだろうからなあ
制作者側にとってプラス収支になると思うのならば、普通に公開すれば良いと思うよ
出演者のイメージも含めて作品という見方もあるだろうからなあ
制作者側にとってプラス収支になると思うのならば、普通に公開すれば良いと思うよ
387名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gH9421NF02023/07/17(月) 20:14:05.35
まあこれ見せしめだからね
日本人的 陰険
日本人的 陰険
388名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UP12ywgb02023/07/17(月) 20:14:14.90
田嶋の言いたいこともわからないでは無いが、野球やサッカー選手が不祥事を起こしたときに
所属先球団が契約解除するのはある程度は当然視されているような気がする。
所属先球団が契約解除するのはある程度は当然視されているような気がする。
社会的な影響が高い人たちにはそれ相応の基準(道徳的でも倫理的でもいいけど)が要求されるのは仕方がないと思う。
390名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q3iGls8d02023/07/17(月) 20:15:16.01
ロリコンが作った作品はセーフなの?
391名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UaGp/0W702023/07/17(月) 20:15:27.61
ダイナマイト作ったやつがダイナマイトで無差別殺人しても同じ事言うのか
392名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uO/hfg/S02023/07/17(月) 20:15:27.75
また
人を選んでブっ叩き
人を選んで援護して
自分や仲間やテレビ芸能界にスポンサーの都合が悪すぎることは
一切報道しないコメントしない自由業のテレビ芸能ワイドショーの無責任なコメンテーター芸人が何か言ってるよ
そもそも猿之助案件とか
一般人の鬼畜なら親●しと即逮捕の事案でしょ
それを
セクハラパワハラが暴かれた猿之助を悲劇のヒーロー(ヒロイン?)に祭り上げ歌舞伎の宣伝までするテレビ芸能界
そして政治家界隈と親しい歌舞伎界の猿之助は一か月以上注視検討した結果自●幇助と
野党がゴミクズ過ぎて消去法でカルト統一増税自民の下
法がつくられる上級に忖度の共産主義並みの無法治国家ニッポン
人を選んでブっ叩き
人を選んで援護して
自分や仲間やテレビ芸能界にスポンサーの都合が悪すぎることは
一切報道しないコメントしない自由業のテレビ芸能ワイドショーの無責任なコメンテーター芸人が何か言ってるよ
そもそも猿之助案件とか
一般人の鬼畜なら親●しと即逮捕の事案でしょ
それを
セクハラパワハラが暴かれた猿之助を悲劇のヒーロー(ヒロイン?)に祭り上げ歌舞伎の宣伝までするテレビ芸能界
そして政治家界隈と親しい歌舞伎界の猿之助は一か月以上注視検討した結果自●幇助と
野党がゴミクズ過ぎて消去法でカルト統一増税自民の下
法がつくられる上級に忖度の共産主義並みの無法治国家ニッポン
393名無しさん@恐縮ですID:so6+4yVD02023/07/17(月) 20:15:41.47
倫理を問うのか
それ以外を問うのか
の問題ではあるな
倫理を問うのならばノーベル賞学者であろうと役者であろうと関係はない
それ以外を問うのか
の問題ではあるな
倫理を問うのならばノーベル賞学者であろうと役者であろうと関係はない
394名無しさん@恐縮ですID:00/XDoJB02023/07/17(月) 20:16:01.23
思えば小山田も叩かれすぎだったな
395名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iAoax+Tx02023/07/17(月) 20:16:29.60
それはそう。重大犯罪者の過去の功績なんて全部吹っ飛ぶ
戦争犯罪者の過去の功績なんて認めてないだろ
戦争犯罪者の過去の功績なんて認めてないだろ
403名無しさん@恐縮ですID:00/XDoJB0
>>395
戦争犯罪者は作品を作ってないよ
戦争犯罪者は作品を作ってないよ
417名無しさん@恐縮ですID:drJWorwC0
>>403
ノーベル賞だろうと菊花賞だろうと犯罪者の業績は一切認めてはならない
ルールを守らずに作られたものは例外なくウンコ
ノーベル賞だろうと菊花賞だろうと犯罪者の業績は一切認めてはならない
ルールを守らずに作られたものは例外なくウンコ
427名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KA0dhDOb0
>>417
日本政府に楯突く気ですか
テロリストですな
日本政府に楯突く気ですか
テロリストですな
431名無しさん@恐縮ですID:drJWorwC0
>>427
アベが戦犯であるように
犯罪者の作品も犯罪だ
バカウヨは黙ってろ
アベが戦犯であるように
犯罪者の作品も犯罪だ
バカウヨは黙ってろ
459名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tZTNqv700
>>417
きちがいやん
きちがいやん
396名無しさん@恐縮ですID:erVSeiUw02023/07/17(月) 20:16:35.23
さじまようこ
397名無しさん@恐縮ですID:35r1+ekx02023/07/17(月) 20:17:21.21
普通に生きてて犯罪犯す機会なんて無いっての。何で芸能界入るとそんなに犯罪者になる機会増えるんだと。根源の問題はそっちだろ
398名無しさん@恐縮ですID:00/XDoJB02023/07/17(月) 20:17:21.34
猿之助は親だろ。別次元で無理
399名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SB151/mu02023/07/17(月) 20:17:38.45
ならもし自分の家族を殺した奴がいてそいつが出てくる映画を見られるかって話
業績までは失わないけどそいつの顔は見たくないだろ
業績までは失わないけどそいつの顔は見たくないだろ
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