50名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:89RDoj2l02023/07/17(月) 19:09:28.70
すぐ極端な例を出す人は嫌われる
51名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:p5Z39bDw02023/07/17(月) 19:09:29.32
ショービズと学術研究は別だからな、精神的自由と経済的自由だと後者は一段下がるみたいなもんでしょ
52名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aDPIPyqx02023/07/17(月) 19:10:03.71
利益とか考えたらたかが一国の人間の作品を配信止めたとてそこまで困る人いないからアウトにしてくれて構わんかも
53名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cxDtTBFr02023/07/17(月) 19:10:09.42
ノーベル賞や金メダリストや上級国民は特別視しろと言ってんのかこのおばさん
54名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GTuQoafj02023/07/17(月) 19:10:10.26
モノによるよね
55名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IYGnvF8102023/07/17(月) 19:10:22.74
所詮自主規制である内は権利者の考え方次第で正解はないが
自分の好き嫌いを絡めずにそれを言えるかってところかな
大嫌いな奴の不祥事でも仲間や取り巻きの不祥事でも同じ態度をとれるかということ
自分の好き嫌いを絡めずにそれを言えるかってところかな
大嫌いな奴の不祥事でも仲間や取り巻きの不祥事でも同じ態度をとれるかということ
56名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kDYdazHD02023/07/17(月) 19:10:30.26
理論の飛躍を学者がするって世も末だな
57名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aQgVG/3u02023/07/17(月) 19:10:51.15
喩えが下手
58名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4c7kqFXZ02023/07/17(月) 19:10:52.25
ノーベル文学賞受賞者が犯罪犯したら、作品も嫌がる人はいるだろ。
315名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PxYhEXUo0
>>58
そんなわけねぇだろwww
ラノベみたいにエンタメで文学読んでるわけじゃねえんだぞ
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ラノベみたいにエンタメで文学読んでるわけじゃねえんだぞ
59名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:83RQSwhI02023/07/17(月) 19:10:52.31
猿之助は駄目だろ
60名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uFIoDIAN02023/07/17(月) 19:11:07.88
そういう事例があってから言ってくれ
その対象を同レベルの発生率で比較するのがそもそもおかしい
その対象を同レベルの発生率で比較するのがそもそもおかしい
61名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iYeuBXzq02023/07/17(月) 19:11:19.37
フリッツ・ハーバーのことを言っているのか？
罪の意識に苛まれて奥さんが自殺したわけだが
罪の意識に苛まれて奥さんが自殺したわけだが
64名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PrBMPuE902023/07/17(月) 19:11:30.94
殺人は駄目に決まってるアホかよ
65名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qqF1JziB02023/07/17(月) 19:11:36.61
でも性犯罪犯した男の出てる作品は配信停止しろと言うのでしょ？
66名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:24a/0l5c02023/07/17(月) 19:11:38.24
大体歌舞伎なんて女は排除されてんだから
フェミはそこに噛み付けや
馬鹿じゃねえの
フェミはそこに噛み付けや
馬鹿じゃねえの
67名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9WemSRS902023/07/17(月) 19:12:00.59
悪芋
69名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:giL3wDE602023/07/17(月) 19:12:42.87
キョンべさんが出演してる作品を復活させよう
70名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0othxjTq02023/07/17(月) 19:13:12.20
一人犯罪者が出たらドラマとか映画が見れなくなるのはやめてほしいわ
そいつのとこ切り取って置き換えとかならんのかね？
そいつのとこ切り取って置き換えとかならんのかね？
72名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BVNN/qRd02023/07/17(月) 19:13:29.53
この小学生みたいな屁理屈がまかり通るなら逆にノーベル賞受賞者は犯罪でもなんでもやりたい放題ってことになるんだけどこんなもの意見でも言論でもなんでもないただの認知症の婆さんの妄言だろ読売テレビはいい加減にしろ
73名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GS0ttmKo02023/07/17(月) 19:14:06.17
？？
74名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:snYuBO+r02023/07/17(月) 19:14:11.70
この婆さん、凄く浮いている
見世物みたい
人気番組の老舗コメンテーターだが、よみうりテレビも
いい加減キレ
見世物みたい
人気番組の老舗コメンテーターだが、よみうりテレビも
いい加減キレ
75名無しさん＠恐縮です2023/07/17(月) 19:14:23.60
ロボトミー
76名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9m3mGhtL02023/07/17(月) 19:14:40.80
別に。
この映画にあの捕まった強姦魔が出てるんだぜｗっうぇ
てなるけど。
この映画にあの捕まった強姦魔が出てるんだぜｗっうぇ
てなるけど。
77名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GvmlGbf902023/07/17(月) 19:14:42.62
海外を見習え
偉人でも当時の価値観で問題なくても
今を基準に間違えていたなら犯罪者扱い
作品が否定されてけされる
偉人でも当時の価値観で問題なくても
今を基準に間違えていたなら犯罪者扱い
作品が否定されてけされる
102名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1WQvFvGE0
>>77
ビル・ゲイツが犯罪を犯したら世界中のウィンドウズの入ったパソコンすべて解体すんの？
ビル・ゲイツが犯罪を犯したら世界中のウィンドウズの入ったパソコンすべて解体すんの？
171名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7c2pfdGj0
>>102
パソコンは仕事の役に立つけど、映画やドラマは役に立たない
パソコンは仕事の役に立つけど、映画やドラマは役に立たない
78名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Q0Zl0Uju02023/07/17(月) 19:14:52.52
このヒト自分の親族や親しい人達が被害者でも同じこと言えるのかな？
79名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Kp6q3FYp02023/07/17(月) 19:14:56.31
アベが死んだらまたテレビに出れるようになったんだね
80名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KVysg9x/02023/07/17(月) 19:15:10.25
極論バカ
81名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RQlYuzu402023/07/17(月) 19:15:12.66
DNAの二重螺旋とかを解明した博士が
殺人とか犯したら、DNA検査とか遺伝子治療とかはすべて使用禁止だよ
殺人とか犯したら、DNA検査とか遺伝子治療とかはすべて使用禁止だよ
82名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:K8jQ1okA02023/07/17(月) 19:15:13.54
テレビ局はジャニーズ事務所と手を切らないよね
個人の犯罪とはいえ社長。最高裁までいって確定している
個人の犯罪とはいえ社長。最高裁までいって確定している
83名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YyW4vDb402023/07/17(月) 19:15:18.02
こういうのってさ作品と本人は別って話じゃなく
結局のとこ「当人がやったことを許せるか」って話なんだよね
それはべつに合法か違法かって話じゃなく
俺もP瀧がやらかしたときに作品とは別とか思ったんだけど
よく考えてみたら俺が「コカインくらいどうでもいいだろ」って思ってるから許しただけなんだよ
もし瀧がレイプとかしてたら許さないもん
結局のとこ「当人がやったことを許せるか」って話なんだよね
それはべつに合法か違法かって話じゃなく
俺もP瀧がやらかしたときに作品とは別とか思ったんだけど
よく考えてみたら俺が「コカインくらいどうでもいいだろ」って思ってるから許しただけなんだよ
もし瀧がレイプとかしてたら許さないもん
125名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ap/DOPuS0
>>83
猟奇殺人犯がテレビに出てたら嫌だもんな
作品と人格を完全に切り分けるのは難しい
まあそんな俺も少年Aの絶歌には感動したから文学界には犯罪者がいてもいいと思うわ
本は読みたい奴が読めばいいだけだし映画やテレビのように暴力的に不快と感じる人の感覚に踏み込むことはしない
猟奇殺人犯がテレビに出てたら嫌だもんな
作品と人格を完全に切り分けるのは難しい
まあそんな俺も少年Aの絶歌には感動したから文学界には犯罪者がいてもいいと思うわ
本は読みたい奴が読めばいいだけだし映画やテレビのように暴力的に不快と感じる人の感覚に踏み込むことはしない
143名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9m3mGhtL0
>>83
正直でよろしい
正直でよろしい
84名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cxLv9yjr02023/07/17(月) 19:15:32.83
その業績で金儲けしなければいいんじゃね？
85名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FoaePfKa02023/07/17(月) 19:15:44.41
商品開発部から犯罪者でたら販売停止するんか？
111名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kcky5BSY0
>>85
表に名前が出てる人なら可能性高いんじゃね
チームでやってたとしてもイメージ的にはきつい
表に名前が出てる人なら可能性高いんじゃね
チームでやってたとしてもイメージ的にはきつい
86名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SxAMlDdX02023/07/17(月) 19:15:56.51
この人80歳超えてるのか元気がある後期高齢者だなあ
87名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xWIHvbfL02023/07/17(月) 19:16:09.94
そりゃ悪いもにするわ。
あたり目だろ。
あたり目だろ。
88名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MHUD4M/C02023/07/17(月) 19:16:19.06
いや、ポリコレ違反で抹殺された学者が米国にいまして・・
91名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SxAMlDdX02023/07/17(月) 19:17:03.67
山中伸弥さんが殺人を犯したらIPS細胞の技術はポイされるかって言ったらそんなことはないだろ
92名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WEULDV/n02023/07/17(月) 19:17:28.42
出演者が犯罪者にならなければ良いだけ
そんなに難しい事か？
犯罪を犯さず生活するのって
そんなに難しい事か？
犯罪を犯さず生活するのって
93名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nuPpCmpj02023/07/17(月) 19:17:29.99
損害が他にまで及ぶから自主的にお蔵入りしてるだけだろ
94名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LRpB/5nC02023/07/17(月) 19:17:40.78
なら出演者が犯罪を犯したら
出演料返金でその後入るであろうお金も寄付ってことで
これならええやろ
出演料返金でその後入るであろうお金も寄付ってことで
これならええやろ
95名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CeYRo4I202023/07/17(月) 19:17:43.77
もう82なのか
若手でこのポジションの人いないの？
若手でこのポジションの人いないの？
96名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZvGIa0qs02023/07/17(月) 19:17:44.54
ノーベル賞は価値あるけどテレビコンテンツなんてアホしか見てないじゃん
馬鹿に影響しないよう排除する意味はあるよ
馬鹿に影響しないよう排除する意味はあるよ
97名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:q0oe+0Vh02023/07/17(月) 19:17:51.41
この話で毎回思うのが「OKになったとして本当に作品を公開するに踏み切れるのか？」ってこと、結局保身とか評価気にして非公開にしてそうなのがな
127名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IYGnvF810
>>97
田島みたいなのは自主規制元に言えよと思う
雰囲気がーとか言って全体の責任（責任という言葉もおかしいが）にすんなよ
田島みたいなのは自主規制元に言えよと思う
雰囲気がーとか言って全体の責任（責任という言葉もおかしいが）にすんなよ
98名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:O5CKdiri02023/07/17(月) 19:17:56.71
悪いも
こういう小ネタ仕込むの止めてくれ
こういう小ネタ仕込むの止めてくれ
99名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2pB/beH/02023/07/17(月) 19:18:06.06
女性が暴漢にレイプ膣内射精しされて身篭ったとしよう
「中絶するな！事の経緯など新たな命という宝とは関係ない！」て事よな？
これもまた異次元の少子化対策ですなぁ…
「中絶するな！事の経緯など新たな命という宝とは関係ない！」て事よな？
これもまた異次元の少子化対策ですなぁ…
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