250名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UfWYMDgH02023/07/13(木) 02:50:18.45
女性ホルモンは精神的なバランスと関係してると思う
身内の女性が不安神経症的なところがあるんだけど
妊娠して生理が止まったら落ち着いて安定した
身内の女性が不安神経症的なところがあるんだけど
妊娠して生理が止まったら落ち着いて安定した
301名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f4mc8jdY0
>>250
ホルモンバランスは多い少ないじゃなくてその人個人に合った量があって感情に作用するんよ
それが加齢で落ちてくると女は抑うつ、男は躁鬱になりやすい
女は生理がありバランスが乱れやすく「不順」になるからピル飲んで安定させる
避妊薬じゃなくてホルモン調整させて周期を安定させるもん
男のホルモンバランスの崩れはイライラして人に八つ当たりしたり怒りっぽくなる
50過ぎたおっさんで攻撃的なやつがいるのは更年期だぬ
男は加齢で男性ホルモンが下がるとビタミンBを主に色んなビタミン不足になるのが原因でイライラ
ホルモンバランスは多い少ないじゃなくてその人個人に合った量があって感情に作用するんよ
それが加齢で落ちてくると女は抑うつ、男は躁鬱になりやすい
女は生理がありバランスが乱れやすく「不順」になるからピル飲んで安定させる
避妊薬じゃなくてホルモン調整させて周期を安定させるもん
男のホルモンバランスの崩れはイライラして人に八つ当たりしたり怒りっぽくなる
50過ぎたおっさんで攻撃的なやつがいるのは更年期だぬ
男は加齢で男性ホルモンが下がるとビタミンBを主に色んなビタミン不足になるのが原因でイライラ
252名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KgnQ/XKS02023/07/13(木) 02:50:57.96
更年期障害て閉経によるホルモンバランスの乱れが原因だしね
254名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aOTypjor02023/07/13(木) 02:51:29.82
更年期障害も似たようなものかな
256名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QlU5XaV902023/07/13(木) 02:52:06.63
あっさり死んでしまったな
ホルモンバランス怖いね
ホルモンバランス怖いね
257名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XG8SPpDs02023/07/13(木) 02:52:31.44
りゅうちぇるって今まで男と付き合ったことあったのかな
自分が女の立場で男と付き合ってみたら想像とかなり違ってたとか
ありそうじゃね？
自分が女の立場で男と付き合ってみたら想像とかなり違ってたとか
ありそうじゃね？
428名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:EDn6MLwA0
>>257
身体は男だけど心は女、だけど恋愛対象は女のレズビアンなの♡
身体は男だけど心は女、だけど恋愛対象は女のレズビアンなの♡
肉棒ギンギンでペコの子宮に種付けして子どもを孕ませてやったわ♡ だけど心は女の子なのよん♡
レズビアンなんだから次の恋愛も女だし、肉棒ギンギンよぉ〜♡ いっぱい中出ししちゃうんだからね
というご都合主義の女の娘って共感できるか？
同情できるか？
作った子ども【命】に対しての責任感がまったくない輩だったよな
何がかわいくなりたいだよ、フザケンナっての！
443名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WI/VL60G0
>>428
それはりゅうちぇる本人の発言なの？
創作なら他人の意思が混じるから参考にならないな。
世の中バイセクシャルもいるからね。
両刀使いってのが。男も女も愛せるって人
それはりゅうちぇる本人の発言なの？
創作なら他人の意思が混じるから参考にならないな。
世の中バイセクシャルもいるからね。
両刀使いってのが。男も女も愛せるって人
456名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XFVVjb4X0
>>443
ノンケだと思っていても大谷を見ると皆丸太小屋建てちゃうしな
案外どっちでもイケるよう人間って出来てんじゃね？
ノンケだと思っていても大谷を見ると皆丸太小屋建てちゃうしな
案外どっちでもイケるよう人間って出来てんじゃね？
258名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rxAEfH4R02023/07/13(木) 02:52:53.38
ホルモン打たなきゃ良かったのに
そんなもんなくても女性化改造できるだろ
そんなもんなくても女性化改造できるだろ
261名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FBB+65B402023/07/13(木) 02:53:09.39
Kabaちゃんはよく性転換手術までしたな
265名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XFVVjb4X02023/07/13(木) 02:54:07.72
ホルモン治療で気分落ち込みやすかったのかもなぁ
男のままいとけば良かったのに
男のままいとけば良かったのに
266名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+v6yMSP302023/07/13(木) 02:54:10.83
月経時は女性ホルモンが減少してる状態でその時にイライラする
女性ホルモン療法も同じでとり過ぎると減少した時の反動が大きい
女性ホルモン療法も同じでとり過ぎると減少した時の反動が大きい
267名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fd7w7qTP02023/07/13(木) 02:54:24.14
オカマキャラって昔は割と好きだったけどエグい内幕見るにつれ無理になる
280名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FBB+65B40
>>267
おすぎとピーコなんて今では老々介護してるしな
おすぎとピーコなんて今では老々介護してるしな
283名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KgnQ/XKS0
>>280
それはオカマ関係ないやろ
それはオカマ関係ないやろ
652名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+SSM1GmH0
>>267
自分も幼少期からオカマやオネエやLGBTの人へは寛容な価値観の家庭で育ってきたけど
ここ最近のジャニー、猿之助、おすぴー、りゅうちぇるとかの現状を見るとなんとも言い難い気持ちになってる
自分も幼少期からオカマやオネエやLGBTの人へは寛容な価値観の家庭で育ってきたけど
ここ最近のジャニー、猿之助、おすぴー、りゅうちぇるとかの現状を見るとなんとも言い難い気持ちになってる
673名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kthveUu30
>>652
KABAちゃんは声まで女性化しようとして声帯の手術までやってたけど、結局わりとすぐ元に戻ってたしな
女性化で整形にハマるのもなかなかヤバい道だよ
彼もちょっと心配な部類
KABAちゃんは声まで女性化しようとして声帯の手術までやってたけど、結局わりとすぐ元に戻ってたしな
女性化で整形にハマるのもなかなかヤバい道だよ
彼もちょっと心配な部類
全員がカルーセル麻紀やピーターや美輪明宏のように「この人は最後まで大丈夫そう」となれるわけではない
カルーセル麻紀は今までに周囲のニューハーフがどんどん病んで自殺して行くのを何人も見てると言うしな
こういった負の側面、リスクがあることもきちんと認知されて行くべきだとは思うよ
268名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0zOd4oJJ02023/07/13(木) 02:54:32.28
ナジャ・グランディーバは見た目バケモノだけどトーク上手くて親しみやすくて好きだわ
281名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VGhEuk050
>>268
ナジャが自殺したら本当のビックリだよね
あれくらいカラッとゲイ？でいて欲しいわ
ナジャが自殺したら本当のビックリだよね
あれくらいカラッとゲイ？でいて欲しいわ
335名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9gd4MpYS0
>>268
ナジャの食べ歩きの番組が好きだったわ
食レポで映る指先は丁寧に手入れされていて
あんなオッサンなのに絵面が汚くならないし
人当たりがよく嫌味がないんだよな
ナジャの食べ歩きの番組が好きだったわ
食レポで映る指先は丁寧に手入れされていて
あんなオッサンなのに絵面が汚くならないし
人当たりがよく嫌味がないんだよな
675名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UFvrc+Np0
>>268
女装家のゲイ達って自分達のことをバケモノだとよく言ってて
自分達は決して幸せになれない運命だけど自分らしくしぶとく生きていくのよ！！！って価値観の人多いよね
女装家のゲイ達って自分達のことをバケモノだとよく言ってて
自分達は決して幸せになれない運命だけど自分らしくしぶとく生きていくのよ！！！って価値観の人多いよね
753名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7TYcjSsY0
>>675
その境地にいたるまでにどれほどの苦しさや辛さや哀しさを経験したかと思うとな…(´；ω；｀)
艱難汝を玉にすという言葉があるけど酸いも甘いもかみ分けてきたからこそ得られた成熟した精神って感じだ
その境地にいたるまでにどれほどの苦しさや辛さや哀しさを経験したかと思うとな…(´；ω；｀)
艱難汝を玉にすという言葉があるけど酸いも甘いもかみ分けてきたからこそ得られた成熟した精神って感じだ
270名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZJx1kRF202023/07/13(木) 02:54:34.46
身体を変えるのって本人はリスク高いし
周りは気持ち悪いしでメリットないんだから非推奨にすべきだわな
自分らしく自分らしくって何事も軽く肯定しすぎなんだよ
性別は男と女しかないしどっちかに生まれたらそれが自然
周りは気持ち悪いしでメリットないんだから非推奨にすべきだわな
自分らしく自分らしくって何事も軽く肯定しすぎなんだよ
性別は男と女しかないしどっちかに生まれたらそれが自然
310名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jDetTTpL0
>>270
本当に自分らしくなら、ありのままの自分を個性で表現する
手術するってことは強烈な自己否定でつらいと思う
でもはるな愛は健康的なイメージだけど、今元気にやってるのか
上で自分が書いた、男装して女好きかもってのはこの人だった
本当に自分らしくなら、ありのままの自分を個性で表現する
手術するってことは強烈な自己否定でつらいと思う
でもはるな愛は健康的なイメージだけど、今元気にやってるのか
上で自分が書いた、男装して女好きかもってのはこの人だった
398名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KMiBZ8ou0
>>270
心に体合わせる治療してるけどそれが間違ってる可能性もある
今の感情論ではなく科学的な議論するべき
心に体合わせる治療してるけどそれが間違ってる可能性もある
今の感情論ではなく科学的な議論するべき
273名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WI/VL60G02023/07/13(木) 02:54:54.30
寝不足だったりイライラだったりストレスだったりニコチン切れでヒステリーになるってあるからね。
274名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cNaZnWs002023/07/13(木) 02:55:02.54
ちんこセンサーがついてるから理想の女に近づくというの納得感あると言えばあるな
275名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QlU5XaV902023/07/13(木) 02:55:27.55
単なる誹謗中傷で死んだって仕組みではなさそうだな
277名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AWOQkE5X02023/07/13(木) 02:55:43.13
マスコミはLGBTに配慮して自殺の本当の原因には触れないだろうな
278名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/kGTh1zh02023/07/13(木) 02:55:59.44
この人ってなんだかんだ性別男って気がするんだよな
女になろうとするのはなんか違うような
女になろうとするのはなんか違うような
548名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tcfr9c2w0
>>278
心は女なら子供の親の役割果たすことから逃げないだろ
本能と間違われるほど女は子供に尽くす割合高いから
心は女なら子供の親の役割果たすことから逃げないだろ
本能と間違われるほど女は子供に尽くす割合高いから
279名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:H1/RLA1l02023/07/13(木) 02:56:02.53
鳥越シェフがゲイじゃなかったのにショック受けたとか
ワイもショックやったし
ワイもショックやったし
282名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XFVVjb4X02023/07/13(木) 02:56:55.01
そういえば氷川きよしもたまにメンタル弱ってるのかなって時あるからな
ホルモン打ってたりするのかもしれないけど
しんどかったらあまり無理をしないでほしい
ホルモン打ってたりするのかもしれないけど
しんどかったらあまり無理をしないでほしい
285名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SZ/Zdmwu02023/07/13(木) 02:57:30.32
女性が生理の時や出産閉経の時のホルモンバランスと
人工的に打ったホルモン注射のホルモンバランスってどう違うんだろう？
男性に無理やり女性ホルモン入れるのって反動が大きいのかな？
人工的に打ったホルモン注射のホルモンバランスってどう違うんだろう？
男性に無理やり女性ホルモン入れるのって反動が大きいのかな？
307名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WI/VL60G0
>>285
おしりに何日か分の量を注射して、それが吸収されていくらしいよ。減ってきたらホルモンバランスにも影響はあるかもしれないけど。
おしりに何日か分の量を注射して、それが吸収されていくらしいよ。減ってきたらホルモンバランスにも影響はあるかもしれないけど。
572名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tcfr9c2w0
>>285
女性はホルモンの揺れ幅に対応するから
過剰に女性ホルモン投与してもサッサと代謝しちゃうみたいだね
男性は溜め込めるので女性化乳房のように胸を大きくできるけど
貧乳女性にホルモン投与しても大して巨乳化しないそうだ
女性はホルモンの揺れ幅に対応するから
過剰に女性ホルモン投与してもサッサと代謝しちゃうみたいだね
男性は溜め込めるので女性化乳房のように胸を大きくできるけど
貧乳女性にホルモン投与しても大して巨乳化しないそうだ
585名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VGhEuk050
>>572
なるほどねー
なるほどねー
勉強になったわ
286名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:C8jJ8y1L02023/07/13(木) 02:57:37.72
調べたら女性ホルモン打つのって副作用めっちゃあるじゃん
287名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WI/VL60G02023/07/13(木) 02:57:56.10
世の中には女装子好きやニューハーフ好きもいるから。女に近づけば近づくほど、その手の人の関心は減るって聞くからね。その場合はノンケの男性には人気だろうけど。
305名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KgnQ/XKS0
>>287
ノンケの男が好きになるわけねーだろ
ノンケの男が好きになるわけねーだろ
313名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WI/VL60G0
>>305
ついてるのが無理って男性もいるから
性転換したらノンケにもモテるんじゃない？
ついてるのが無理って男性もいるから
性転換したらノンケにもモテるんじゃない？
319名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KgnQ/XKS0
>>313
ノンケがついてるかついてないかだけで判断してると思ってるのか？
ノンケがついてるかついてないかだけで判断してると思ってるのか？
334名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WI/VL60G0
>>319
人によるね。
逆に体の形状や皮膚の色で付き合う人ばかりじゃないでしょ。ただどうしても見た目や性器形状は女性がいいって人はいそうだけど。
人によるね。
逆に体の形状や皮膚の色で付き合う人ばかりじゃないでしょ。ただどうしても見た目や性器形状は女性がいいって人はいそうだけど。
341名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZJx1kRF20
>>334
それすでにノンケじゃなくなってるだろアホ
それすでにノンケじゃなくなってるだろアホ
348名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WI/VL60G0
>>341
ノンケってのは異性愛者でしょ。
性転換して異性に見えるような人を愛するのは
ノンケで異性愛者では？
ノンケってのは異性愛者でしょ。
性転換して異性に見えるような人を愛するのは
ノンケで異性愛者では？
370名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZJx1kRF20
>>348
そんな男はほとんどいないよ
大半の男にとっては性転換した男は女に見えるのではなく性転換した男と認識するだけ
ゲイと同じくらいマイノリティ
そんな男はほとんどいないよ
大半の男にとっては性転換した男は女に見えるのではなく性転換した男と認識するだけ
ゲイと同じくらいマイノリティ
344名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KgnQ/XKS0
>>334
人によるんじゃなくてそいつはノンケじゃないんだよ
体型とか肌の色のレベルの話じゃない
人によるんじゃなくてそいつはノンケじゃないんだよ
体型とか肌の色のレベルの話じゃない
327名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8y7AcbZR0
>>313
ノンケはあくまで女が好きなだけで女風は好きじゃないから
女がこの世にごまんといるのに女風に行く理由が全く無い
ニューハーフはあくまでニューハーフ好きにしか受け皿がないんだよ
なんらかのキッカケでヤッてみてハマる人がいる確率は完全な男よりは少し高いくらいでしかない
ノンケはあくまで女が好きなだけで女風は好きじゃないから
女がこの世にごまんといるのに女風に行く理由が全く無い
ニューハーフはあくまでニューハーフ好きにしか受け皿がないんだよ
なんらかのキッカケでヤッてみてハマる人がいる確率は完全な男よりは少し高いくらいでしかない
309名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZJx1kRF20
>>287
大半のノンケの男は性転換した男も無理
大半のノンケの男は性転換した男も無理
288名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jSdBnpqC02023/07/13(木) 02:58:00.74
BBCだけでなくdailymailも報道
おとといのJane騒動以降、リンク貼ろうとするとNG出るんで貼れません
記事読みたい方は見出しコピペして検索してください
Transgender Japanese TV star Ryuchell, 27, is found dead by manager inside agent’s office a day after model ex-wife posted a picture of their son celebrating his fifth birthday
304名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:z7EwL5FP0
>>288
>ex-wife posted a picture of their son celebrating his fifth birthday
これも報道に乗ったのか…
>ex-wife posted a picture of their son celebrating his fifth birthday
これも報道に乗ったのか…
289名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7AB/QMys02023/07/13(木) 02:58:03.62
女性化に伴うホルモンバランスの変化による精神不安定が関わってると思う
例えば別スレに仕事のために黒髪に戻したのが嫌だったとかそんなんでもきっかけになり得るからね
例えば別スレに仕事のために黒髪に戻したのが嫌だったとかそんなんでもきっかけになり得るからね
291名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ps4Vrfn+02023/07/13(木) 02:58:15.20
金玉取ったの？
311名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dT25r2Zi0
>>291
子供がいる人は子供が成人するまで適合手術はできない
そんな人がまだ幼い子供の誕生日に自殺ってなあ
子供がいる人は子供が成人するまで適合手術はできない
そんな人がまだ幼い子供の誕生日に自殺ってなあ
293名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ps4Vrfn+02023/07/13(木) 02:58:51.61
俺も女児のパンツ買ったことあるけど賢者タイムの時に捨てて公開しているよ
318名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8y7AcbZR0
>>293
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294名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8hKgz+/O02023/07/13(木) 02:59:00.55
KABAちゃんみたいに完全に性転換しようとホルモン打ってたんかね？
あそこまでいくのは料金的にも精神的にもかなりの覚悟いるみたいだし、途中で鬱っちゃったのかな
あそこまでいくのは料金的にも精神的にもかなりの覚悟いるみたいだし、途中で鬱っちゃったのかな
296名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QlU5XaV902023/07/13(木) 02:59:02.17
ホルモンは効くからヤバいな
297名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rCFSZtsy02023/07/13(木) 02:59:02.26
それと、チンコとキンタマも小さくなってくる
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