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200名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GEjSLyxM02023/07/13(木) 02:42:39.86
女ですら不妊治療とかで離婚に自殺もあるんだよな
男が急速に女性ホルモン弄ったら危なすぎねーか
224名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VGhEuk050
>>200
不妊治療がきっかけで夫婦中悪化からの離婚なんてのも多いのは実は双方の不妊治療への思いの違いだけじゃなくてホルモンバランスが崩れる事での妻の変化が原因てのも多いのかもね
201名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G6StKV4X02023/07/13(木) 02:42:49.05
そういや低用量ピル飲んでる知り合いも慣れるまでオエオエしてしんどそうだったから女性ホルモン直接打つとか想像しただけでも怖い
204名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wv//iI9m02023/07/13(木) 02:43:06.17
性別をかえる薬の存在なんて初めて知ったわぁ
ということは逆もあるな
どっちにしろキツそう
209名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G6StKV4X0
>>204
おナベの人が男性ホルモン打ちまくってマッチョなオッサンになってる動画とかあるよ
207名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qPB1iwJ902023/07/13(木) 02:43:47.20
ピーターと言うタレントさんがいるけど
身体は男性のまま
デビュー時は中性的な少年みたいだった
あんな感じの方が自然でいいのかも
255名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VGhEuk050
>>207
そうそう
ピーターとか美川憲一とかおすぎとピーコとか

無理に身体を変えなくても気持ちだけ女なりバイなりでいれば良いと思うんだけどね

今は身体を変えるが当たり前になって来ちゃってるから本当に怖いよ

259名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6qA+asct0
>>207
ピーターはトイレは多機能トイレに入るって言ってたな
誰にも迷惑がかからないからと
314名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9gd4MpYS0
>>207
ピーターは池畑慎之介と上手く二つの名前を使い分けて
時に男になり女になり自由に渡り歩いていた
あれもその時の恋人の性別や性的嗜好で左右されてるんだろうとは思う
誰でもあのくらいの自由度があれば悩みは軽くなるだろうにな
208名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AWOQkE5X02023/07/13(木) 02:44:00.41
ホルモン注射とかしてたんだろうし副作用で精神がおかしくなっての自殺だろうね
212名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4sx4zpTW02023/07/13(木) 02:44:17.07
>手術とか、痛いことは絶対しない

チンコ付いたままだったのか

219名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XG8SPpDs0
>>212
詳しくないけど、薬で小さくできるんだったっけ?
そっちやってたんかな
213名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1kGDsf1v02023/07/13(木) 02:44:24.27
まあ原因はホルモンじゃないやろ
そんなんで命落としてたら人類滅亡してるわw
502名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vNqJyMCy0
>>213
いや実際ホルモンで左右されてるし。
女もだけど、男も40〜50代になったら男性ホルモンが減少して男性更年期になって苦しんで自死する人もいるよ。
620名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UFvrc+Np0
>>213
実際インドとアフリカ以外世界中人口減少してるし
214名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hmWIi+f102023/07/13(木) 02:44:37.45
反トランスは人殺し
死んで詫びろ
僕はこっち
わたしからは以上だな
217名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eaRIwVZ702023/07/13(木) 02:45:05.83
女性ホルモンそのものが鬱を引き起こすのか
それとも女性ホルモンが優位になったせいで男性ホルモン(自己肯定感UP効果)が劣位になって
自信が失われたことにより鬱になるのか

男の方が自◯が多いのも、男性ホルモンが急激に減って急激に自信喪失した結果
(プラス自◯を完遂できる実行力)と考えたらツジツマが合いそうだが

233名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dTONEcSW0
>>217
よく分からんが
元男だとしても相当美人やん
相当モテると思うけどどうなんだろうな
あのシェフが橋本環奈って呼ばれるレベルじゃん
292名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EDn6MLwA0
>>233
ガキ作っておいてワタシ女なの って共感できる?

手術もせずに女のフリしていつでも男に戻れるようにしてる輩に共感できる?

本気で性別変えたいのなら手術で身体を変更する覚悟を持てよと思うし、じゃなきゃご都合主義だろとしか思わんわ

486名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WI/VL60G0
>>292
手術とかって確かに怖いもんだし、費用もかかるし全身麻酔、事故もある。
段階を追って手術していく人もいる。
不可逆だからね。
山登りだっていきなりエベレストに登らないでしょ。
急ぐ事じゃないし、性転換したのに女性として
うまく生きていけなくて悩んでる人もいる。
237名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+v6yMSP30
>>217
男性の自殺は労働時間の長さが関係してるから
女性との比較は難しい
264名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G6StKV4X0
>>217
ホルモンはバランスの問題だから多くても少なくてもよろしくない
だから避妊目的以外でもピル飲む人がいる
自殺にかんしては躁鬱は遺伝しやすいのとストレス
つまり全部重なってこうなっちゃったのかも
474名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tcfr9c2w0
>>264
生理不順と生理痛治療で低用量ピル飲み始めて一年経つけど
生理痛がめっちゃ楽になってびっくりした。
差し込みで立ってられなくなるような生理痛は皆無になった
体に合えばホルモン治療は悪い事じゃない
221名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cJhPTXtl02023/07/13(木) 02:45:36.72
知人で男の体に興奮するけど恋愛対象は女みたいな不思議な人がいたな

ただアメリカの研究によるとバイってのは存在しないらしいらしい
自称バイは脳波見るとゲイらしいけど

223名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aK9Qr33n02023/07/13(木) 02:45:44.93
私女なのに髭生える
225名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HON78e8y02023/07/13(木) 02:46:14.29
自分も女ホルやろうと思ったことあるけど副作用キツそうだから手出せなかった
226名無しさん@恐縮ですID:15tnCXGW02023/07/13(木) 02:46:14.58
薬物投与の一定リスクについて医師はインフォームドコンセントを図る
きちんとマスゴミはこの点を周知するように
227名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jSdBnpqC02023/07/13(木) 02:46:38.96
Ryuchell: Japanese TV personality found dead at agent’s office

英国BBCでも報道されてますね

247名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XG8SPpDs0
>>227
最近のBBCはなんなん?
日本の芸能界のことなんてイギリス人に関係ないでしょう
272名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VGhEuk050
>>247
実は岸田が強引にLGBT法案を通そうとしてるのも海外からの圧みたいな話が有るしね…

だから日本だけの問題にするつもりはないんじゃない?
完全にりゅうちぇる利用されるよ

629名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UFvrc+Np0
>>227 >>247
日本はジェンダーギャップ指数が先進国の中で最下位レベルだからかな
637名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZJx1kRF20
>>629
まずは日本以外の先進国はレイプを減らして
女性が夜道を安心して歩けるようにしてから言ってくれよな
229名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ClfIQZ3b02023/07/13(木) 02:46:44.07
名前忘れたけど20代の時に髪生える薬流行ってたの飲んだけど、異常にイライラしたけどホルモンバランス崩れると大変だよな
人によっては玉痛くなったみたいだし
232名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9SCGyj+02023/07/13(木) 02:47:26.62
あれ手術なしのおっぱいだったの?
結構大きく見えたけど
239名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XG8SPpDs0
>>232
きつめに寄せて上げて上げ底したらあのくらいの谷間はできるかも
636名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+SSM1GmH0
>>232
男性芸人で薄毛治療のために女性ホルモン入れたらおっぱい大きくなってきたと言ってる人いた気がする
236名無しさん@恐縮ですID:f4mc8jdY02023/07/13(木) 02:48:04.40
マットだかマイキーとかいうマネキンになりたい元野球選手の息子(娘?)は幸せだな
家族が応援してて
238名無しさん@恐縮ですID:twmtaDH702023/07/13(木) 02:48:30.13
何事もやりすぎは毒なんだな
程々じゃないと
240名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zNiJYe5302023/07/13(木) 02:48:46.04
ガキの頃母親がいきなり発狂して殴ってきたけど
ホルモン火病だったんだな

卵巣が悪くて手術してたしホルモンバランスのせいか
頭おかしいいなこのカスと思ってた

242名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9SCGyj+02023/07/13(木) 02:49:25.93
ホルモンバランスが崩れると腱鞘炎になるらしい
俺も抗男性ホルモン飲んでたら腱鞘炎になってしばらく手首が痛かったわ
243名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7AB/QMys02023/07/13(木) 02:49:41.84
誹謗中傷ガーって言ってる芸能人共にこの記事読ませたい
体だけじゃなくメンタル的にもリスクあるんだよいきなり女性化ってのは
245名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0zOd4oJJ02023/07/13(木) 02:49:50.32
りゅうちぇるの死を見て猿之助は自分が死ぬ気は1ミリもなかったって伝わってくるよね
246名無しさん@恐縮ですID:776ZgJpb02023/07/13(木) 02:49:51.63
りゅうちぇるでハゲかよ
なら日本人みんなハゲじゃん
249名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eaRIwVZ702023/07/13(木) 02:50:02.96
イソフラボンは発酵させればまろやかになって女性ホルモンにあまり影響与えないとか聞いたことある
ソースはないからデマかも知れんけど
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