51名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Dg3cmDh102023/07/08(土) 17:07:44.28
美味いと感じるなら好きに使えばいいし嫌なら使わなければ良い
それだけだろ
それだけだろ
58名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:P5pJ+AP80
>>51
そうそれだけの事なんだけど過剰に味の素を否定する人がいる
そうそれだけの事なんだけど過剰に味の素を否定する人がいる
53名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8E2jlXtO02023/07/08(土) 17:08:41.97
なんか”化学”調味料って名前に過剰反応してるんだろうな
63名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3EvnnsyU0
>>53
化学的に作られた純粋な物って一番安心なんだがなあ
自然だ天然だ言ってる方が何入っているか分からんのに
化学的に作られた純粋な物って一番安心なんだがなあ
自然だ天然だ言ってる方が何入っているか分からんのに
72名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8E2jlXtO0
>>63
化学薬品の合成で作られてるとか思ってる馬鹿がいるんだろ
化学薬品の合成で作られてるとか思ってる馬鹿がいるんだろ
87名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3EvnnsyU0
>>72
仮にそれで作ったとしても何も問題ない
D-グルタミン酸ナトリウム100%だったらどう作ったって同じ物なんだよな
(放射性同位体は考えないものとする)
仮にそれで作ったとしても何も問題ない
D-グルタミン酸ナトリウム100%だったらどう作ったって同じ物なんだよな
(放射性同位体は考えないものとする)
96名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GScwurr20
>>87
バリン、ロイシン、イソロイシン、トリプトファン、リシン、メチオニン、
フェニルアラニン、トレオニン、ヒスチジン、タウリン、アルギニン、
バリン、ロイシン、イソロイシン、トリプトファン、リシン、メチオニン、
フェニルアラニン、トレオニン、ヒスチジン、タウリン、アルギニン、
必須アミノ酸ではないグルタミン酸ナトリウムは欲しくない
グルタミンは欲しい
味の素はグルタミンを製造して安く提供しろ BCAAも
110名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mYds3qFZ0
>>96
味の素グループは今や世界一のアミノ酸製造業者ですからw
味の素グループは今や世界一のアミノ酸製造業者ですからw
医療用の点滴に入るアミノ酸やBCAAも無論作ってます
安いのかどうかは知らんけどww
123名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GScwurr20
汁150gに0.2ｇで十分な化学調味料
ラーメン汁300gにカレースプーンで山盛り化学調味料を使用する
二郎系 原価が高いからと喜ぶジロリアン
短時間で食べGI値を急激に上げる
ラーメン汁300gにカレースプーンで山盛り化学調味料を使用する
二郎系 原価が高いからと喜ぶジロリアン
短時間で食べGI値を急激に上げる
>>110
グルタミン酸ナトリウム1kg600円でも買わない
グルタミン1kg3000円でも買う
54名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1dM0D8Ra02023/07/08(土) 17:08:42.24
まぁ馬鹿な人間ほど狭量になって全否定に走るからな
このスレにも多いだろ？
ホリエモンってだけで全否定な馬鹿な人たちw
このスレにも多いだろ？
ホリエモンってだけで全否定な馬鹿な人たちw
55名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lFCNltPh0
>>54
自己紹介乙
自己紹介乙
56名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:R60ZHqzl02023/07/08(土) 17:09:59.15
適量ってもんがあるだろう
唐辛子も適量入れれば美味しさ増すが多すぎると辛くて食えたもんじゃない
化学調味料もいっしょ
少量入ってるぶんには美味しさupだが
大量に入ってると胸焼けして気持ち悪くなる
ほどほどにしとけってこと
唐辛子も適量入れれば美味しさ増すが多すぎると辛くて食えたもんじゃない
化学調味料もいっしょ
少量入ってるぶんには美味しさupだが
大量に入ってると胸焼けして気持ち悪くなる
ほどほどにしとけってこと
57名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5QPT8jtu02023/07/08(土) 17:10:04.32
インフルエンサーで味の素を否定するやついないから
否定派が誰に影響されたのかが謎
否定派が誰に影響されたのかが謎
61名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nn50b8xd02023/07/08(土) 17:11:47.18
60年代アメリカでのアジア人差別を含んだ根拠のない中華料理店症候群の影響が今だに続いてるんだろな
62名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GhQiVlAS02023/07/08(土) 17:11:56.07
昔は取りすぎると動脈硬化になるとか言われてたような
64名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ujcwhOlS02023/07/08(土) 17:14:45.50
素人が安い素材で素人風に出汁を取る手間暇とリターンを考えれば、素直に化学調味料使ったほうが早いのは確か
78名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GScwurr20
>>64
素人の主婦が使いやすいように開発されてる煮干や鰹節と昆布で出汁を取るのが難しいのなら
化学調味料を「適量」使えば良いわ
素人の主婦が使いやすいように開発されてる煮干や鰹節と昆布で出汁を取るのが難しいのなら
化学調味料を「適量」使えば良いわ
グルタミン酸ナトリウムの性質として、味覚から過剰摂取を感知できないという問題がある。
通常、食塩や醤油などの調味料は、投入過剰状態になると「塩辛すぎる」状態となり、食べる事ができないが、
グルタミン酸ナトリウムは、ある程度の分量を超えると、味覚の感受性が飽和状態になり、
同じような味に感じるため、食べすぎに気づきにくく、また飲食店も過剰投入してしまいがちであり、
調味料としての一般的な使用では考えられない分量のグルタミン酸ナトリウムを摂取してしまう場合もある。
また、多量の遊離グルタミン酸を体内で処理できない特異体質者や
アレルギー・ぜんそく患者は、摂取すると体調や症状の悪化を招く恐れがあるため、注意しなければならない
128名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QEGp5s6W0
>>78
これな
正しい認識
これな
正しい認識
65名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GScwurr202023/07/08(土) 17:14:51.19
> お店の料理は味の素たっぷり入ってるのでお気をつけください
過剰使用って意味だからヤバイよな
過剰使用って意味だからヤバイよな
> 堀江氏は《じゃあ味の素の主成分であるグルタミン酸ナトリウムたっぷりの昆布もやばいんですね》と
廃糖蜜を原料にしたものと 昆布は同じものじゃないよな
同じものとして販売したら詐欺じゃん
入ってる入ってないの問題じゃなく どんな調味料でも過剰使用で不味いんだよな
貴重な良い素材にまで大量使用して素材の味をかき消すから素材がもったいない
リュウジ オマエダ！
汁物は1人前で150ccで0.2gで十分だってさ 味の素なら
味の素の類似品の
原材料名：食品添加物 L-グルタミン酸ナトリウム 99％以上
内容量：1kgなら 600円程度で通販できる
277名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rdgCvjAC0
>>65
家庭用に小さなパッケージのものとラージサイズでの販売品で値段比較するとかまともじゃないからやめとけ
家庭用に小さなパッケージのものとラージサイズでの販売品で値段比較するとかまともじゃないからやめとけ
423名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AW7dgE9g0
>>65
その辺のスーパーで買う素材はそんなにいい素材なの？
その辺のスーパーで買う素材はそんなにいい素材なの？
442名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GScwurr20
>>423
無加工の肉や魚や卵は良い素材を入手できる流通システム
無加工の肉や魚や卵は良い素材を入手できる流通システム
66名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Q6Bv9lEC02023/07/08(土) 17:15:23.36
わかったわかったw
もう解散せえ
いっちょかみいらない
もう解散せえ
いっちょかみいらない
68名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Sg/SnuVY02023/07/08(土) 17:15:56.17
旨味ってすぐ飽和するからちょっとでいいのにドバサーって入れるラーメン屋の店主とかホント頭悪そうに見える
69名無し募集中。。。ID:HmwtMv4202023/07/08(土) 17:16:42.05
3スレ目w
まだやるのか
おまえら味の素好きやなあ…
まだやるのか
おまえら味の素好きやなあ…
70名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HkmXlJYN02023/07/08(土) 17:16:44.14
人工化学調味料
人工化学調味料
71名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zQ+zMRZ702023/07/08(土) 17:17:06.31
ホリエモンは言ってることはその通りでも
口汚く語尾にクソとか付けるから、余計な反発をされてるだけの構ってちゃん
口汚く語尾にクソとか付けるから、余計な反発をされてるだけの構ってちゃん
73名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HkmXlJYN02023/07/08(土) 17:19:48.87
https://i.imgur.com/XWAOu6T.jpg
76名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Sg/SnuVY02023/07/08(土) 17:22:00.99
食品メーカーのレトルトや調味料とかは添加物として適切な量を入れてるからわざわざ自分で付け足す必要は無い
ジャンク舌は入れれば入れるほど美味しくなると思ってる
ジャンク舌は入れれば入れるほど美味しくなると思ってる
77名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PjIeVfb602023/07/08(土) 17:22:15.15
どーせ味なんかわからないくせに偉そうに語ってる奴って哀れだよなw
80名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:L3yvafGZ02023/07/08(土) 17:24:05.70
化学調味料が入ってないと物足りない
81名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+iPNRIYm02023/07/08(土) 17:24:31.96
ご意見番気取りで首を突っ込むか
専門外だからコメントを控えるか
簡単な二択
専門外だからコメントを控えるか
簡単な二択
82名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:edCQVPIk02023/07/08(土) 17:24:59.71
なんとなくってのは結構重要だぜ
科学を経験則が上回ることだってあるだろ
科学を経験則が上回ることだってあるだろ
83名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bEUTRqP402023/07/08(土) 17:25:21.95
リュウジは明らかに案件なのになんではっきり言わないんだろう
言ってる？
言ってる？
205名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rdgCvjAC0
>>83
案件の時はちゃんと言ってる(YouTubeの規約で言わないとダメ)
特定商品使ってる案件っぽいけれど案件じゃない時は今日は案件じゃないってネタとして言ってる
案件の時はちゃんと言ってる(YouTubeの規約で言わないとダメ)
特定商品使ってる案件っぽいけれど案件じゃない時は今日は案件じゃないってネタとして言ってる
85名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HkmXlJYN02023/07/08(土) 17:26:02.26
味の素ブランドだけは絶対に買わない
味の素臭いｗ
86名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NQYHQOjm02023/07/08(土) 17:27:27.33
巻き込まれた？
88名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wvqE2Fnp02023/07/08(土) 17:28:46.58
まぁネットで過剰に叩かれるんは美味しんぼのせいやろな
89名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JXOPeiIW02023/07/08(土) 17:29:40.79
某漫画のせいだろ
使いすぎる馬鹿が悪いのに何故か味の素を悪者にしてしまうという
それでいて使い過ぎて不味い中国料理を褒める
使いすぎる馬鹿が悪いのに何故か味の素を悪者にしてしまうという
それでいて使い過ぎて不味い中国料理を褒める
90名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wLrlOyqo02023/07/08(土) 17:29:54.87
日本は昭和３０年くらいの時には既に農薬天国だったのに、その頃に子供だった人間たちは今も生きていて、日本人の平均寿命は世界トップクラス。農薬ってそんなに心配しなくても良くね？
91名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:I3hIV4+702023/07/08(土) 17:30:38.17
ホリちゃん暇なの？いつも喧嘩腰だけど寂しいのかな？
92名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RJtnJeas02023/07/08(土) 17:30:49.90
巻き込まれたというか
ネットですぐに言い合いになる馬鹿騒ぎに参戦したかっつだけやろ
ネットですぐに言い合いになる馬鹿騒ぎに参戦したかっつだけやろ
93名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JXOPeiIW02023/07/08(土) 17:31:06.02
農薬を身体にぶっかけてた時期もあったらしいからなｗ
100名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Dg3cmDh10
>>93
DDCかw
DDCかw
94名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:y8IF0aUt02023/07/08(土) 17:31:11.88
健康とか自然派とかそっち系ってヤバい人多いって印象だな
95名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HkmXlJYN02023/07/08(土) 17:32:27.85
味の素は農薬と同じ
97名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6nSTEZiK02023/07/08(土) 17:32:55.97
味の素とアジシオは最強
98名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6nSTEZiK02023/07/08(土) 17:33:40.20
赤と青
99名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:S/WWtq+O02023/07/08(土) 17:33:40.38
大勝軒の山岸御大も化学調味料は普通に使ってたとか
108名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GScwurr20
>>99
昔は使わないとケチくさいとか言われてたから使ってた店は多い
覚醒剤の増量にも使われてた
ジャンキーは母乳が昆布茶みたいな味と言われてた
昔は使わないとケチくさいとか言われてたから使ってた店は多い
覚醒剤の増量にも使われてた
ジャンキーは母乳が昆布茶みたいな味と言われてた
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