151名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7OVr7U2f02023/07/08(土) 18:01:45.78
まあ味覚障害の果てはアル中だわな
「イジめる！」などと喚き散らし心情スタイルに訴えるのではなく研究者として科学的に論を求めたい処ではある
「イジめる！」などと喚き散らし心情スタイルに訴えるのではなく研究者として科学的に論を求めたい処ではある
154名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:imE+qxAz02023/07/08(土) 18:03:20.58
うま味調味料な
世の中のもの全部化学式で表せること
忘れてる奴多すぎだろ
世の中のもの全部化学式で表せること
忘れてる奴多すぎだろ
156名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fH1bshZq02023/07/08(土) 18:03:59.88
味の素がだめならウェイパーを食べればいいじゃない
161名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GScwurr20
>>156
白い方が勝つわ
白い方が勝つわ
157名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZBQecagf02023/07/08(土) 18:04:32.08
料理のあいうえお
味の素
イノシン酸
うま味調味料
塩化ナトリウム
お醤油
これで完璧
159名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GgFCTxji02023/07/08(土) 18:06:13.67
天然が好きなら岩塩を自分で取って来て使うといいよ 有効な毒成分も一緒に取れるし
168名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RYgP+xbL0
>>159
出たよ極端バカw
岩塩を持ち出されると不利になるからと採取してゴミを一緒に取れとかいかにも頭悪い
出たよ極端バカw
岩塩を持ち出されると不利になるからと採取してゴミを一緒に取れとかいかにも頭悪い
172名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GgFCTxji0
>>168
色素は虫を潰したのをつかうといいよ
色素は虫を潰したのをつかうといいよ
187名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7t53ZYeP0
>>172
やっぱり馬鹿で草
やっぱり馬鹿で草
160名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eigCgN9C02023/07/08(土) 18:06:41.01
いずれリュウジは味の素の社外取締役になるんでしょ
162名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NyqzPw+c02023/07/08(土) 18:07:33.91
科学と化学は発音が紛らわしいので
化け学調味料と呼称しよう
化け学調味料と呼称しよう
166名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zNx/5qaa02023/07/08(土) 18:09:04.71
いやだなぁ珍しくホリエモンと同意見なんだけど・・ｗ
167名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:U/lHz0k702023/07/08(土) 18:09:17.30
味の素批判してるのが名無しの雑魚しかいない時点でそれ以上話すものでもない
169名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yRd4OS7L02023/07/08(土) 18:09:31.06
美味しんぼをバイブルのように崇め奉ってる奴らがいるからな
170名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3eqsaROH02023/07/08(土) 18:09:36.40
味の素だろうか昆布粉だろうか魚粉だろうか馬鹿みたいにかけてる料理は美味しくないだろ
185名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yRd4OS7L0
>>170
背脂いっぱい入っててうまいうまいと言ってる奴らもいるけどな
背脂いっぱい入っててうまいうまいと言ってる奴らもいるけどな
171名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JXOPeiIW02023/07/08(土) 18:09:50.00
コンピューターの分野にも進出してんだもんな
凄い企業だよ
凄い企業だよ
173名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vbjSllcu02023/07/08(土) 18:11:34.07
自然由来なら体に優しいっていう信仰みたいなのって何なんだろうね
自然由来の毒物なんて山ほどあるのに
自然由来の毒物なんて山ほどあるのに
183名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GScwurr20
味の素は味の素でしか製造してない
化学調味料は海外メーカーも安く製造販売してる
化学調味料は海外メーカーも安く製造販売してる
リュウジは味の素しか使わない
すべてを味の素で平坦な味でかき消す
>>173
自然由来のサトウキビを原料に微生物で製造してると宣伝する
味の素
微生物がサトウキビ原料を食べた排泄物とは言わない
188名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vbjSllcu0
>>183
何に由来しようが出来上がった化学物質が同じなら変わらないんだけどな
まあ人の気持ちというのはそうなに単純ではないけど
何に由来しようが出来上がった化学物質が同じなら変わらないんだけどな
まあ人の気持ちというのはそうなに単純ではないけど
199名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JyHrzdOq0
>>183
うまそう…
うまそう…
297名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gQlbfT9I0
>>183
醤油味噌酒ヨーグルト
全部微生物の排泄物なわけだが
醤油味噌酒ヨーグルト
全部微生物の排泄物なわけだが
174名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CLhmLq2102023/07/08(土) 18:11:48.59
味の素の食品まずいよね
まずいというよりまたこの味かいみたいな
冷凍餃子とかメリハリがなくて微妙すぎるわ
まずいというよりまたこの味かいみたいな
冷凍餃子とかメリハリがなくて微妙すぎるわ
175名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5RokgG6l02023/07/08(土) 18:12:02.06
別に美味けりゃなんでも良いが、料理店ならばそれを使わないで旨みを出してくれってちょっと思うよ。
和食食いに行って本だしでお吸い物出されたら美味くてもちょっと嫌だろ？
それと同じだ。
和食食いに行って本だしでお吸い物出されたら美味くてもちょっと嫌だろ？
それと同じだ。
182名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:clIoYrS70
>>175
材料も手間も惜しまず旨いものを出してくれるなら最高だな
でも1～2ランク高くなるだろな
料理によるけど
材料も手間も惜しまず旨いものを出してくれるなら最高だな
でも1～2ランク高くなるだろな
料理によるけど
190名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GScwurr20
>>175
和食チェーン店では
鰹節と昆布で正しく引いた出汁にハイミーを少量入れて味噌汁を作る
「ほんだし」は糖類で甘くて美味しくないから
和食チェーン店では
鰹節と昆布で正しく引いた出汁にハイミーを少量入れて味噌汁を作る
「ほんだし」は糖類で甘くて美味しくないから
176名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UuH50O0y02023/07/08(土) 18:12:12.50
味の素適量使うのはなんの問題もないと思うが、味の素の旨味に慣れると本来の化学調味料を使わない料理を物足りなくなるだろうね、いわゆる舌がバカになるっていうやつ
美味しんぼで言いたかったのはみんなが化学調味料に慣れて化学調味料を使わない手間暇かけたホンモノの料理がわかってもらえなくなるのが許せなくて、それならいっそのこと化学調味料なんか無くしてしまえ！って考えなのだろう
美味しんぼで言いたかったのはみんなが化学調味料に慣れて化学調味料を使わない手間暇かけたホンモノの料理がわかってもらえなくなるのが許せなくて、それならいっそのこと化学調味料なんか無くしてしまえ！って考えなのだろう
193名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JXOPeiIW0
>>176
他の調味料には文句言わないのに味の素にだけ言ってなかったっけ？
醤油や味噌系にも言えよな
他の調味料には文句言わないのに味の素にだけ言ってなかったっけ？
醤油や味噌系にも言えよな
202名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GScwurr20
>>193
酒も偽物が多いとか
スコッチウィスキーもボジョレーヌーボーワインも
辛すぎるキムチも明太子も
味噌もみりんも酢も九州の砂糖入り醤油も
専売の食塩で塩化ナトリウム99％も文句言うてた
MS-DOSも
酒も偽物が多いとか
スコッチウィスキーもボジョレーヌーボーワインも
辛すぎるキムチも明太子も
味噌もみりんも酢も九州の砂糖入り醤油も
専売の食塩で塩化ナトリウム99％も文句言うてた
MS-DOSも
80年代は偽物が多かったから仕方ない
221名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UuH50O0y0
>>193
それは知りませんでした、全ての化学調味料の事かと、ただ味の素はそれら全ての最初の発端ですからね、私は「旨み」という味覚の幅を世界で初めて発見した創業者には尊敬しかありませんし自分自身の適量は使っています
それは知りませんでした、全ての化学調味料の事かと、ただ味の素はそれら全ての最初の発端ですからね、私は「旨み」という味覚の幅を世界で初めて発見した創業者には尊敬しかありませんし自分自身の適量は使っています
177名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1y+Yfii002023/07/08(土) 18:12:48.04
砂糖や塩と違って味の素は大量に入れても分からないからな。
大量に摂ると偏頭痛起きたり、体内で処理できないアレルギーとかぜんそくの人が大量に摂ると体調悪くなったりする。
アジア人が緑内障が多いのはグルタミン酸ナトリウムの可能性があると言われてる
大量に摂ると偏頭痛起きたり、体内で処理できないアレルギーとかぜんそくの人が大量に摂ると体調悪くなったりする。
アジア人が緑内障が多いのはグルタミン酸ナトリウムの可能性があると言われてる
192名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yjZBdiEx0
>>177
大量にとると、大抵の物質はほとんど毒だよ
大量にとると、大抵の物質はほとんど毒だよ
248名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1y+Yfii00
>>192
入れ過ぎても気付かないのが味の素だって言ってるだろ
入れ過ぎても気付かないのが味の素だって言ってるだろ
255名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0bhqZVr20
>>248
ちゃんと目視しなさい
ちゃんと目視しなさい
258名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JXOPeiIW0
>>248
取り過ぎても味に変化がないというのならば逆に考えればそれ以上入れる必要がない
経費の無駄を調理人がしているだけだな
取り過ぎても味に変化がないというのならば逆に考えればそれ以上入れる必要がない
経費の無駄を調理人がしているだけだな
178名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rYCzCVJl02023/07/08(土) 18:13:08.18
巻き込まれたのか
自分から絡んできたんだろ
自分から絡んできたんだろ
179名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:W+tYfpZ+02023/07/08(土) 18:13:58.30
無化調だと美味しいわけでもないしな
味がスカスカつまり不味くて潰れる無化調を売りにしたレストランは大量にある
クズ野菜だけで出汁取るとかな
全然美味しくないよ
味がスカスカつまり不味くて潰れる無化調を売りにしたレストランは大量にある
クズ野菜だけで出汁取るとかな
全然美味しくないよ
180名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zQ+zMRZ702023/07/08(土) 18:14:00.37
アーミッシュと類似した信仰だな
まあ長年口に入れてるからと言う経験則でもある
まあ長年口に入れてるからと言う経験則でもある
181名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:T2kMEraC02023/07/08(土) 18:14:24.09
発酵させるのだって立派な化学だよな
醤油やみりんや酒だって立派な化学調味料だわ
醤油やみりんや酒だって立派な化学調味料だわ
184名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nVCsX0CA02023/07/08(土) 18:16:04.76
最初に化学調味料って名前つけた奴があかんわ
189名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sZKlKzRj02023/07/08(土) 18:18:15.57
リュウジはだって案件動画出してるしなあ
味の素側だろ
でも味の素は全然悪くないと思う
使い方の問題はあるかもしれんが
味の素側だろ
でも味の素は全然悪くないと思う
使い方の問題はあるかもしれんが
191名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZD38ydaT02023/07/08(土) 18:18:58.36
お酒の方が体に悪いと思うけどな
194名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bZr5DTS/02023/07/08(土) 18:20:03.86
タイ…あっ(察し)
196名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JyHrzdOq0
>>194
笑
笑
195名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:y8IF0aUt02023/07/08(土) 18:20:40.80
美味い不味いの話は個人の好みだから好きにすればいいけどあたかも健康被害があるように言ってる人たちは（あっ…）ってなる
197名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:W+tYfpZ+02023/07/08(土) 18:22:06.55
クズ野菜で出汁とって無化調ですとか言われても不味いだけだし
不味くても無化調だとありがたがる高齢者多いよね
不味くても無化調だとありがたがる高齢者多いよね
201名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zQ+zMRZ70
>>197
そう言うビジネスモデルなんだよ
それで定価高くしても売れるんだから、メーカーとしては
そっちへ誘導したいのよ
そう言うビジネスモデルなんだよ
それで定価高くしても売れるんだから、メーカーとしては
そっちへ誘導したいのよ
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