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【バスケット】八村塁がW杯欠場 NBA優先の決断でネットでは議論紛糾「必要な判断だと」「サッカーじゃ考えられない」

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400名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/AR2odpB02023/06/29(木) 06:34:56.82
ヤンキース「ヒデキを引き留めてはいない、事実Aロッドやジーターに出場を許可している」
401名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0fqmYeCA02023/06/29(木) 06:36:52.67
八村も大坂なおみシュミットダニエルも日本人
ヌートバーはアメリカ人

俺は日本人を応援します

402名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Vlegw7eg02023/06/29(木) 06:38:23.67
日本チームはスリーポイント狙いのチーム編成だな
404名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5RYpvEAS02023/06/29(木) 06:43:10.35
つか、全然話題になってなかっただろ
ヤフーのスポーツ部門ですら
アクセスランキング上位に来なかったし

そもそもNBAじゃただのロールプレイヤーで
下の上くらいの選手で別に大した選手ではないよ

406名無しさん@恐縮ですID:c61WyHRp02023/06/29(木) 06:56:33.43
金にならない事はやらないスタイルはいいと思うで
出なくてもCMには出てくるだろう
407名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zsXgsXih02023/06/29(木) 07:06:17.55
出てもBリーグの外国籍みたいにインサイドの守備に忙殺させられるだけだろ
縁の下の力持ちやらされるだけ
マルカネン、ランデール、タイス/ワグナー兄にインサイド蹂躙されるのが八村いたら多少善戦するかだけ
それがバスケの地位と知名度上がって競技人口増加に繋がるのか
408名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/eJ3jqgy02023/06/29(木) 07:07:28.97
バスケのワールドカップはたいした大会じゃない
バスケだとオリンピックの方が価値が上
409名無しさん@恐縮ですID:J4Wy5WFw02023/06/29(木) 07:12:45.76
大坂なおみと違うな
410名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Yi8iMkpg02023/06/29(木) 07:21:20.94
Bリーガーは下手くそすぎるからな
マークすらまともにつけない
411名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4W6xOhk902023/06/29(木) 07:23:08.77
契約更新あるししょうがないファンは知ったこっちゃないだろうけど
413名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wqwRdoAA02023/06/29(木) 07:40:25.95
バスケにワールドカップがあるなんて初めて知ったわ
そりゃNBAを優先するだろ
414名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KGDynML302023/06/29(木) 07:43:23.98
サッカーのW杯とは大会としての格が違うでしょ
WBCと比べるべき
416名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2MykMSKh02023/06/29(木) 07:53:13.49
バスケワールドカップのアメリカが優勝した試合の決勝戦が90万人視聴
例えばスペインの人口がアメリカの10/1くらいだからスペインの優勝したサッカーワールドカップが適当にやってスペイン国内では10万人しか見ないとする
ほらこんな大会に価値ないでしょ?
417名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wqwRdoAA02023/06/29(木) 07:57:10.33
しょうがねえよなあ タイミングが悪かった
つぎの大会はでるんじゃね? 何年後か知らんけど
418名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ABNTkCF802023/06/29(木) 07:58:21.43
BLMには率先して参加してたくせに
アジア人が黒人に殴られまくっても知らんぷり

何やねんこいつw

419名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xKGYnWIU02023/06/29(木) 08:11:35.15
もうチケット売り切れてるからお役御免なんだわ
420名無しさん@恐縮ですID:m4nWTG0G02023/06/29(木) 08:12:42.70
BリーグとNBAじゃ給料違いすぎるもんな
要らないところで消耗しても
421名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nGtFb9X002023/06/29(木) 08:14:15.37
NBAが実質W杯なんだろ
422名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hEo/u9z902023/06/29(木) 08:18:34.97
サッカー出たら選ばれし者やもんな。
キングカズと言う亡霊を作ったぐらいやし
バスケットはNBAでれば最高峰で
ワールドカップル出てもメリット無いやろうしなNBAの選手は疲れるだけで
423名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hEo/u9z902023/06/29(木) 08:20:27.88
全員NBAならなんでおまえだけってなるけど二人だけなら疲れるよな
期待されるし毎回出されるし
425名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rYBHiG1w02023/06/29(木) 08:21:56.23
W杯出場はボランティアなんか?
それとも報酬出るの?
427名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LPEoU61H02023/06/29(木) 08:35:05.80
バスケ日本代表は自国開催で全敗という偉業を達成しそうだな
428名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kvm09PLH02023/06/29(木) 08:39:33.45
愛国心の無い奴に何を言っても仕方がない
429名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Cvv8UW+d0
>>428
さっさと自衛隊に入れよ
430名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zsXgsXih02023/06/29(木) 08:45:43.26
ポット7に入れられて対戦相手全部上位だから全敗は仕方ないだろ
開催国ならフィリピンみたいにポット1に入れて貰えよ
431名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uFpeco5+02023/06/29(木) 08:49:10.47
バルセロナオリンピックのドリームチームが94年に全員欠場したせいでW杯の権威はほぼない
逆にジョーダンマジックバードが参加したブランドからオリンピックは今でもある程度重要視されてる
433名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kvm09PLH02023/06/29(木) 08:53:20.69
都合の良い時に黒人になったり日本人になったり便利だな
434名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zsXgsXih02023/06/29(木) 08:53:39.03
インドネシア結局出場出来ないんだな、場所だけ貸し出さなきゃいけなくなって可哀想
開催地が出れないって前代未聞
436名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zsXgsXih02023/06/29(木) 08:59:24.00
日本は本当に間抜けだな。フィリピン開催の手伝いをしてフィリピンか中国の五輪出場に手を貸しただけ
勝てもしないグループに入れられて
437名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7L/igXzQ02023/06/29(木) 08:59:41.29
この人も大坂なおみ派か
438名無しさん@恐縮ですID:toOMF9Wx02023/06/29(木) 09:00:30.96
NBAで高い金貰って試合に出てる選手はメリットなくね
そこまで辿り着けてない選手がアピールの為に出れば良いんだよ
439名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KVZ4x7p+02023/06/29(木) 09:02:27.19
サッカーはステータスが別格すぎて一緒にしないほうがいい

サッカー以外のスポーツの2番手争いが未来永劫続くわけで
今のところバスケが世界No.2ってところ
野球なんざずーーーっと下な

487名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5zb2UZbb0
>>439 その下の野球に日本の玉蹴り選手誰一人年俸勝てないの面白いよな
440名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kUxjUWT302023/06/29(木) 09:03:01.44
そもそもサッカーワールドカップは選手に自分を売り出せるメリットがある
バスケにはなんもない
441名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rigTL9vu02023/06/29(木) 09:05:13.45
サッカーのクラブW杯並みの茶番よね
バスケなんてNBAが全てだろうし
442名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5bv6NUOI02023/06/29(木) 09:06:29.03
サッカーが世界で人気というたびにJリーグのゴミさが浮き彫りになるの笑う
443名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kBTP94aL02023/06/29(木) 09:12:20.08
バスケにワンチャンは無い
444名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+TFgD9I002023/06/29(木) 09:14:06.00
バスケにとってはオリンピックの方が価値が高いから致し方なくも見えるが問題は日本男子がオリンピックに出場できなさそうなことだな
445名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4eNewXS902023/06/29(木) 09:16:50.54
いつもサッカーファンがうるさいよね
wbcの時も色々言ってきて
449名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VG1OkEka0
>>445
それ対立煽りしたい朝鮮人だから
サッカースレでは別のスポーツファンになりすましてるよ
450名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KVZ4x7p+0
>>445
WBCはボロクソ言われてしゃーないわ

日本ラウンドなんて四死球ばっかの草野球レベル
サッカーどころかバスケのW杯と比べるのも失礼なくらいレベルの低い代表ごっこ

470名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EzNIdW4M0
>>445
税リーグがBリーグに抜かれそうになってるからサカ豚が焦り始めてる
そんな理由でスタジアムも税リーグには通らずBリーグのほうが有利だしな
482名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fPVwOzEj0
>>470
さすがに草
B1の観客平均3466人がどうやってJを抜くんだい?w
J2平均の半分程度やでオッサン
そもそも何を抜くのよ

アレの競技人口はサッカーとバスケに抜かれたが(笑)

491名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5zb2UZbb0
>>482 箱が違うのに平均観客動員で比べるヘディング脳
サッカーなんかタダ券配りまくって税金にたかってるだけだろばーか
494名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wE5x0PA20
>>491
じゃあ箱を大きくするように努力しろよw
野球はサッカーは5万人クラスのスタジアムなのにバスケは5千人だろ
どう見ても劣ってるわ
現状はラクビーより劣ってるやろバスケは
499名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5zb2UZbb0
>>494 野球はバスケと仲良いけどサッカーファンサッカーだけ見とけ
あんな痛いよー痛いよーとかアホみたいな演技だけしときゃいい欠陥スポーツ
513名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fPVwOzEj0
>>499
レブロンもコービーもサッカー好き
ヤニスはMLSクラブのオーナー
エンビードはレアルファン
ヒートの連中もメッシを大歓迎
欧州のサッカー選手が1番好きなアメスポはNBA

そういやMLB好きなんて1人も聞いたことねーなw

539名無しさん@恐縮ですID:l1JbKU2T0
>>499
お前みたいな奴はサッカーファンだけじゃなくて野球ファンもバスケファンも嫌いだよ
500名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2ebkAlAc0
>>499
サッカーの話しかしてなくて草
502名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fPVwOzEj0
>>491
B1平均3000ちょい程度なのにキャパのせいにすんな
そんな御託はどうでもいい
で、具体的に何を抜くんだい?

仮にアルバルク東京の試合を新国立でやったら何人集まる?笑

521名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7us4ao6m0
>>445
サッカーファンとサッカーファン偽装した野球ファンとかもう滅茶苦茶よ芸スポは
くだらないことに人生かけてる人間が多すぎる
446名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+gV4mGiI02023/06/29(木) 09:18:00.74
バスケW杯でアメリカが優勝した事は無い
世界選手権の時代はあるがスペインやらトルコ開催の時で
唯一のアメリカ開催(2002年)ではトーナメント1回戦で敗退している
これで決勝の視聴者とか言ってる焼き豚

NBAファイナルとワールドシリーズの視聴率でも5戦のうち4戦負けてるのにたった1試合勝っただけで大騒ぎするのも焼き豚

447名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vpF7pv/c02023/06/29(木) 09:20:25.97
なぜか出てきた渡辺って人も知らないし大丈夫。誰も興味ない
448名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zsXgsXih02023/06/29(木) 09:20:54.44
フィリピン開催のお手伝いして敵に塩をやった。こんな間抜けなことはない
見返りが死のグループ。アジア一枠しかなくてワールドカップの成績で決まるのに
456名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FNQ6enF30
>>448
開催国枠を貰えたから一応取引は成立している
貰えなくても自力出場は出来ただろうけど困難な試合が続くから失う物も多い
インドネシアは開催国枠も貰えなかったから可哀想
458名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zsXgsXih0
>>456
日本がベスト16行けなけば、フィリピンか中国が五輪いけるように細工してあるのはいいの?
つまり日本は五輪捨ててワールドカップのなんちゃって自国開催を取ったってことだね
464名無しさん@恐縮ですID:M5wDBUs+0
>>458
フィリピンはメイン開催国なのでPOT1に入るのは細工では無くそういうルールでしかない
中国は知らんが開催国だった前回もコケたから細工しても無駄だろう

W杯は出場したら負けてもFIBAランキングのポイントが多めに貰えるから旨味はある
万が一W杯出場を逃したらもちろん五輪も出れないしランキングも上がらない
前回はギリギリW杯出場だったから枠があるのは安心感が違う

473名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zsXgsXih0
>>464
フィリピンと中国の対戦相手見ろって。その上でこの2カ国がベスト16行けなくても17-32決めるグループに同じグループに
入るからどちらかがアジア最上位ほぼ決定だろ。アフリカの最弱国2か国とフィリピン、中国のグループになるんだから
協会としてはパリ五輪捨ててそのかわりW杯出場権を貰ったって判断なんだね。だったらなんで八村出ろって空気作ってたんだろうなw
もう目標達成してるんだからBリーガー出した方がいいだろ
475名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VVt+Ojej0
>>473
いやだからさフィリピンが優遇されるのは開催国だから当然なんだよ
そう言う仕組みでやってんだから
日本が共催してもしなくてもそこは変わらない

五輪は開催国優遇がないからランキング低いまま出場しても上位国と同じ組になって絶望するだけだから
少しでもランキングを上げた状態で五輪に出れるようにするのがベスト
今はまたその時ではない

479名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zsXgsXih0
>>475
日本開催ってTVで言い続けてるんですが。なんで優遇されないの?
483名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RlfEuJiM0
>>479
日本単独開催ではないから
今回はフィリピンが開催国で日本とインドネシアは予選の一部をやるだけ
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