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【バスケット】八村塁がW杯欠場 NBA優先の決断でネットでは議論紛糾「必要な判断だと」「サッカーじゃ考えられない」

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607名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Gkyt6soX02023/06/29(木) 18:03:34.11
WBCに続いて優勝とまではいかなくていいから盛り上がってほしいな
楽しみやー
608名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OgklzlI402023/06/29(木) 18:54:14.10
NBAで活躍した方がニュースになりそう
610名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6wyt3PTD0
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ニュースになるほどの活躍はしてないからなw
616名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6nAHTJM30
>>610
大した活躍してない野球選手はガンガン報道するのになあ
NBA>MLBだなんてことは説明不要なのにこの国おかしいよ
618名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9qiRA+7Y0
>>616
野球選手以下の存在なんだから仕方がない
609名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3iWwJy9C02023/06/29(木) 21:03:24.04
五輪の時には、「この国にはNBAの選手が〇人います」という解説が入っていた
NBA選手の人数は強さのひとつの指標になるから
たぶんWCでもあるはず
だがNBAで「このチームにはWCの選手が~」「五輪の選手が~」はほとんどないはず
強さにあまり関係ないから
611名無しさん@恐縮ですID:axNy4I2u02023/06/30(金) 03:16:51.66
ファンいるの?
612名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jocHveHW02023/06/30(金) 03:52:20.49
バスケはコアな観客しかいないイメージ
お客さんは興行主に飼われている奴隷
613名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zLOU8S4a02023/06/30(金) 03:52:22.21
バスケなんてアメリカの黒人専用スポーツだし
W杯とか意味ないわな
625名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jB/gJV5F0
>>613
今年のドラフト1位はフランス人やで
ステレオタイプの知識やレスひけらかすと恥かくで
631名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hd6xDuvy0
>>613
マジで情報をアップデートした方が良いぞ
今NBAのNO.1~4プレイヤーは全員アメリカ人じゃないし
そのうち半分は白人
614名無しさん@恐縮ですID:heH57zM302023/06/30(金) 03:55:23.43
いやBリーグのお客さんは今多いんだよ
だけどそことNBAファンや国際試合を見るファンが同じ層かはわからない
615名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CxFW8Bgx02023/06/30(金) 07:00:32.99
そっか
620名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9/ziN32x02023/06/30(金) 09:09:26.17
バレーボールの競技人口はバレーの国際連盟が適当に発表してる数字なので根拠は全くない
バレーが盛り上がってるなら選手の年俸がサッカー並みに高いはずだけど
実際はJリーグの選手の足元にも及ばないくらい低い
621名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wBm9y6Xv02023/06/30(金) 09:34:25.92
どうかな、競技人口≠年俸

アメフト最高のQB、アーロンロジャースは年俸62億
同率6位までの7人が50億越え

だが、アメフトの競技人口は…

622名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EdJ3ZU0y02023/06/30(金) 09:56:24.48
アメフトはアメリカ国内での競技人口は圧倒的に多いからアメリカで大人気
女子の競技人口がほぼゼロでも男子だけで他のスポーツを大きく引き離してる
当然年俸も高い

逆に競技人口が多いのに年俸が低いってのが意味不明
競技人口が少なくても一部の金持ちが支えれば年俸上がるのに
誰も金を出さないのは不人気の証拠

623名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wmIBEsmX02023/06/30(金) 10:07:23.23
ttps://america-info.site/america-sports-population

「圧倒的に多い」って
米国内で4位やんw
米国内でしか盛んでないスポーツなのに、
その米国内でも4位で圧倒でもない

624名無しさん@恐縮ですID:upzGooQN02023/06/30(金) 10:09:39.39
自国に誇り持てるかどうか、そのスポーツが世界的に普及してるかどうか

サッカーは強豪国の選手だろうが、弱小国の選手だろうがナショナルチームに選ばれることを誇りに思える
バスケとアメリカにはそれがないだけ

626名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5U9DKCWF02023/06/30(金) 10:15:29.92
アメリカ高校男子の登録競技人口
1,006,013人  アメフト
605,354人  陸上
540,769人  バスケ
482,740人  野球
459,077人  サッカー
269,295人  クロスカントリー
247,441人  レスリング
159,314人  テニス
143,200人  ゴルフ
136,638人  水泳
113,702人  ラクロス
*79,550人  室内陸上
*63,563人  バレー
*35,283人  アイスホッケー
*32,969人  ボウリング
*25,285人  チームテニス
*22,475人  水球
*17,681人  ウエイトリフティング
**5,394人  アーチェリー
**5,484人  アルペンスキー
**5,381人  クロスカントリースキー

**2,389人  ラグビー
https://www.nfhs.org/sports-resource-content/high-school-participation-survey-archive/

628名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wmIBEsmX0
>>626
何で男女分けるの?
629名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5U9DKCWF0
>>628
人気を測る上で女子の競技人口はノイズにしかならない
女子スポーツは金にならないからね
男子の競技人口を見るのが正しい
632名無しさん@恐縮ですID:d4DIY7hd0
>>629
アメリカにおいて女子サッカー、バスケ、テニスは金になるけどな
633名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3FyiqW5i0
>>629
その通り

競技人口の目安として
男女別のランキングもデータとして計るべき
プロは男女が一緒にプレーしてるわけでもないし
各スポーツリーグは男子のほうが莫大な人気があるからね

630名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wmIBEsmX0
>>629
反対だなあ
スポーツの競技人口なら、
男女分けるべきでない

個人的に・・プロの素晴らしさも分かるが、
スポーツなんてアマチュアの人が
楽しくやれればそれでいいのさ、

627名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5U9DKCWF02023/06/30(金) 10:18:00.94
アメリカでバレーボールはラクロスよりかなり少ないのにこれで世界一の競技人口なの?
アメリカって一応バレーボール発祥の国だよ
634名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PQe6psZm02023/06/30(金) 12:38:49.83
バスケって世界的に盛り上がってないよ
完全にアメリカ一強
NBA以外は日本のプロ野球より大きいリーグないし
ヨーロッパもそこそこ強いのにサッカーと比べたら相当差ある。
635名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S9owkGZ202023/06/30(金) 13:38:17.48
バスケの欧州で最高に給料貰ってるのはバルセロナのミロチッチで$5M
円換算で7億以上
欧州のプロスポーツ選手は税抜き発表が普通だから税込だと14億以上

日本のプロ野球でもそこまで貰ってる選手はいない
バスケはスペイン、トルコ、ギリシャで高めだけど最近はイタリアやフランスでも数億の契約が発生してる
発展途上国だけど中国やフィリピンは国技レベルの人気がある
日米くらいしかなく五輪から除外された野球とは違う

636名無しさん@恐縮です2023/06/30(金) 14:44:57.52
FAとか良くわからんけど
八村の実力があればNBAでプレーし続けられるだろ?
637名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1p7udSjT02023/06/30(金) 19:40:33.77
大型契約を控えてるのに怪我なんかしたらパアだからな
移籍なんかしたら環境に適応するなめに練習も参加しとかないと出遅れるし
批判してるのは自己中だけ
638名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dKgE+ITK02023/06/30(金) 19:40:56.15
久保にサウジが年俸250億オファー、ほんと日本のプロスポーツは貧乏になったな
640名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1p7udSjT02023/06/30(金) 20:16:45.06
野球は打って投げるだけの個人競技だからWBC出るデメリットは皆無だけど、
バスケはチームスポーツだから練習参加しないとデメリットでかすぎる
641名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4js69odo02023/06/30(金) 22:45:59.62
バスケの場合五輪>>>>>>>>W杯だからな
ドリームチームがガチで来るのも五輪だけ
642名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tArkiRjD02023/07/01(土) 02:23:13.61
ドリームチーム🤣🤣🤣
643名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xCDZ4S6S02023/07/01(土) 02:55:17.34
ウインターカップは連れて来た黒人で決まる
644名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gOm9Bh9I02023/07/01(土) 05:47:05.06
日本人なら出ろよなあ
バスケってそこまでリスクないだろ
怪我のリスク高いサッカー選手だって拒否している奴なんていないのに
この先ずっと言われ続けることになるよ
645名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xbWSJIQ302023/07/01(土) 06:06:33.28
サッカーW杯なら海外組の有名選手なら出場してほしいどバスケットボールのW杯は興味ないしバスケットボールにも興味ないから出場しなくても悲しくない
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