150名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:b6bMMjDv02023/06/28(水) 19:42:34.49
もったいないなぁ
151名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vZMrhCJA02023/06/28(水) 19:42:39.07
日テレがゴリ押ししてたのにハシゴ外されたのは笑えるよな
152名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dvSuKH1Y02023/06/28(水) 19:43:09.93
>渡辺雄太は自身のツイッターに「先に言っとくけど俺は出る でも出ない判断をしたルイの気持ちもめちゃくちゃわかる」と投稿した
じゃあ、「出る判断をしたあなた（渡辺）と八村選手の違いは何ですか？」まで聞いて欲しかった
160名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OpqZio9x0
>>152
年棒全然違うじゃん。
年棒全然違うじゃん。
235名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OrWf4+vr0
>>160
渡辺は守銭奴って事？
渡辺は守銭奴って事？
153名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VY5VQBR602023/06/28(水) 19:44:23.25
八村は2019年のW杯や東京五輪には出たし松井と一緒にしてやんなよ
283名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3GI51P6e0
>>153
というかアンダーからずっと出ているのに一回出なかったくらいで
こんなに荒れるのがわからん
というかアンダーからずっと出ているのに一回出なかったくらいで
こんなに荒れるのがわからん
155名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:m/oxQeoB0
>>153
心が折れたんだろうな…
心が折れたんだろうな…
154名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YEFUtf4l02023/06/28(水) 19:44:35.01
ヤンキースから許可がおりないとか嘘ついて辞退した松井よりはマシだろ
156名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:g/Lufsce02023/06/28(水) 19:45:41.00
メンタル弱すぎwww
157名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZUDG/z2Z02023/06/28(水) 19:45:43.98
前回チラ見した程度だけど見た試合は渡邉と八村居ない時間はまるで攻め手が無かったからな・・・
渡邉だけだと見事に孤立させられてたし合流前の状態がスカウティングされ尽くしてただけかも知れんが
渡邉だけだと見事に孤立させられてたし合流前の状態がスカウティングされ尽くしてただけかも知れんが
158名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5wxHRP5n02023/06/28(水) 19:46:11.36
所属チームでいくら活躍しても日本代表として活躍しないと日本人に人気は出ないイメージだわ
イチローや大谷しかり本田や三笘しかり
まあそら出ない判断するならそれは仕方ないけど日本での大衆人気は無くなると思う
イチローや大谷しかり本田や三笘しかり
まあそら出ない判断するならそれは仕方ないけど日本での大衆人気は無くなると思う
159名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UFSM0HEn02023/06/28(水) 19:47:49.33
だから、八村はとっくに引退した松井と比較すんじゃなくて、同じ現役の大谷やワタナビとの比較になるよね。
古い人間と比べても「時代が違う」で終わりなんだよ
古い人間と比べても「時代が違う」で終わりなんだよ
162名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TJTV9IJ30
>>159
実力的に大谷と比べる方がおかしいわw
実力的に大谷と比べる方がおかしいわw
170名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:08STp3dI0
>>162
マイナースポーツ野球と比べるな
マイナースポーツ野球と比べるな
161名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bxvdF+gO02023/06/28(水) 19:48:36.38
嘘ついて辞退した松井よりはマシだわw
167名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OPFiM0Jc0
>>161
あれは国民コケにしてたな
これが国民栄誉賞ってｗ
まだ井口は自らの意思で辞退してたのに
あれは国民コケにしてたな
これが国民栄誉賞ってｗ
まだ井口は自らの意思で辞退してたのに
172名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9QW/4690
>>167
松井は五輪の聖火ランナーは引き受けたり、自分の名誉になる事には貪欲なんだけど、WBCみたいな名誉にならない事には一切関わらない
松井は五輪の聖火ランナーは引き受けたり、自分の名誉になる事には貪欲なんだけど、WBCみたいな名誉にならない事には一切関わらない
164名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dvSuKH1Y02023/06/28(水) 19:49:41.40
そもそも八村は日本に強い愛着はない感じが最初からある
165名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5vZg4gYU02023/06/28(水) 19:50:10.59
陰湿ｳﾖジャップの松井中日叩き再び
166名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:c2M9KpIA02023/06/28(水) 19:50:16.57
八村がフィジカルで通用しないって、見てないのバレバレじゃんｗ
フィジカルは通用してんだよ、特にゴリゴリ押し合うのはな
センター相手でもそこそこやれるぐらい、体の強さはけた違い
だから八村がいればでかいの揃えたチーム相手でもある程度戦える
フィジカルは通用してんだよ、特にゴリゴリ押し合うのはな
センター相手でもそこそこやれるぐらい、体の強さはけた違い
だから八村がいればでかいの揃えたチーム相手でもある程度戦える
だが基本的にヘタクソなので一人で点取ってチームを勝たせるというのは無理
168名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iQ+sEJL602023/06/28(水) 19:50:59.02
つーかまだ25なの？若いなあ
169名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Y80DtpGG02023/06/28(水) 19:51:15.85
スターの器じゃないのにバスケ豚の自己顕示欲のために無理やり持ち上げられて本人が可哀想ww
171名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YIfgo25k02023/06/28(水) 19:52:24.52
「自治体から引っ張ってこれるものなどBリーグとはいろいろ被るから本当にウザい。Bリーグを絶対に成功させてはいけない」
とサッカー関係者がぶっちゃけていたからな
287名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fCq1x+OK0
>>171
なら川淵なんか会長にせず放っておけばよかろう
バスケの成功と何の関係もない
サッカー協会とJリーグが無能なのが原因
なら川淵なんか会長にせず放っておけばよかろう
バスケの成功と何の関係もない
サッカー協会とJリーグが無能なのが原因
>>175
選手が出たいから出てるだけ
本番以外は話し合いで調整してるわ
なら国内組だけの試合どう説明するよ？
出さないクラブがあれば選手が契約しなくなるだけ
もう少しスポーツの事理解しようか
289名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A3AdurNv0
>>287
国内組のE-1はAマッチデーじゃなくて強制力ないから引っ張ってこれないだけだろ 無知乙
国内組のE-1はAマッチデーじゃなくて強制力ないから引っ張ってこれないだけだろ 無知乙
292名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A3AdurNv0
>>289
メディアの偏向叩かない人が5chにいるんだｗなんでいるの？
メディアの偏向叩かない人が5chにいるんだｗなんでいるの？
293名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:47edViYH0
>>292
お前はまず嘘つきを直せ
お前はまず嘘つきを直せ
297名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A3AdurNv0
>>293
決勝トーナメント一試合もやらないのに自国開催って言ってる人が嘘つきだと思うけど。相当悪質だと思う
決勝トーナメント一試合もやらないのに自国開催って言ってる人が嘘つきだと思うけど。相当悪質だと思う
300名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3ks+U3370
>>297
沖縄は自国開催だろ
沖縄は自国開催だろ
173名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CRTYKj1C02023/06/28(水) 19:54:31.46
WBCの開催時期はカレッジバスケのプレーオフトーナメントとカブってるから数字が取れないんだよ
マーチマッドネスって言われてるくらい盛り上がるからね
マーチマッドネスって言われてるくらい盛り上がるからね
174名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZFjk6o6H02023/06/28(水) 19:54:41.57
これを批判できるのは日の丸のために億単位の金を捨てたことがある人間だけだろ
1億やるからアメリカチーム応援しろと言われたら誰でもやるわ
1億やるからアメリカチーム応援しろと言われたら誰でもやるわ
179名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DYyy22Fu0
>>174
バスケ豚が八村をなんでテレビで取り上げないんだ文句言ってたのに、いざ自国開催の世界大会開くってなったら本人が辞退って叩かれても仕方ないんだよ
頭の悪いバスケ豚が悪いわ
バスケ豚が八村をなんでテレビで取り上げないんだ文句言ってたのに、いざ自国開催の世界大会開くってなったら本人が辞退って叩かれても仕方ないんだよ
頭の悪いバスケ豚が悪いわ
251名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ufu16El30
>>174
いや、金の為だけなら日本のスポンサー等考えると出る選択もある
金のための辞退とはまたちょっと違う
いや、金の為だけなら日本のスポンサー等考えると出る選択もある
金のための辞退とはまたちょっと違う
253名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Yl7txY6i0
>>251
金のためだろ
金のためだろ
175名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uaD5Y0wK02023/06/28(水) 19:55:19.32
サッカーを引き合いに出すのはどうかと
サッカーは代表戦が半ば義務で、招集拒否すればペナルティが課せられる
サラリーもらっているクラブの試合が数試合出場停止という理不尽さ
こうやって代表選の価値を、ワールドカップの価値を維持している
クラブ優先で辞退できる野球やバスケの方が遥かに健全
287名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fCq1x+OK0
>>171
なら川淵なんか会長にせず放っておけばよかろう
バスケの成功と何の関係もない
サッカー協会とJリーグが無能なのが原因
なら川淵なんか会長にせず放っておけばよかろう
バスケの成功と何の関係もない
サッカー協会とJリーグが無能なのが原因
>>175
選手が出たいから出てるだけ
本番以外は話し合いで調整してるわ
なら国内組だけの試合どう説明するよ？
出さないクラブがあれば選手が契約しなくなるだけ
もう少しスポーツの事理解しようか
289名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A3AdurNv0
>>287
国内組のE-1はAマッチデーじゃなくて強制力ないから引っ張ってこれないだけだろ 無知乙
国内組のE-1はAマッチデーじゃなくて強制力ないから引っ張ってこれないだけだろ 無知乙
292名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A3AdurNv0
>>289
メディアの偏向叩かない人が5chにいるんだｗなんでいるの？
メディアの偏向叩かない人が5chにいるんだｗなんでいるの？
293名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:47edViYH0
>>292
お前はまず嘘つきを直せ
お前はまず嘘つきを直せ
297名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A3AdurNv0
>>293
決勝トーナメント一試合もやらないのに自国開催って言ってる人が嘘つきだと思うけど。相当悪質だと思う
決勝トーナメント一試合もやらないのに自国開催って言ってる人が嘘つきだと思うけど。相当悪質だと思う
300名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3ks+U3370
>>297
沖縄は自国開催だろ
沖縄は自国開催だろ
182名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7pxUDV3+0
>>175
ごもっともだが
そのせいでバスケが未来永劫サッカーに次いで2番手スポーツなのは仕方ないなぁ
ごもっともだが
そのせいでバスケが未来永劫サッカーに次いで2番手スポーツなのは仕方ないなぁ
あぁ、ドマイナー野球はWBCですら草野球ごっこなので
この際どうでもええわ
191名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YIfgo25k0
>>175
マジか・・・
サッカー選手は奴隷みたいなもんなんだな
マジか・・・
サッカー選手は奴隷みたいなもんなんだな
176名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cqTJ4DJj02023/06/28(水) 19:56:10.33
出ないのは自由だけど、日本のCMとかスポンサーと契約しないでね。
それが仁義ってもんだね。
それが仁義ってもんだね。
177名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:j1RGu0Db02023/06/28(水) 19:57:46.25
大谷は神
八村はクソ
所詮クロンボの血
八村はクソ
所詮クロンボの血
180名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yziVkP7H0
>>177
嘘ついて辞退した松井よりマシwww
嘘ついて辞退した松井よりマシwww
181名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ku443Hvq0
>>177
おじいちゃん…
おじいちゃん…
183名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ve5DFwyL02023/06/28(水) 20:03:16.06
サッカーW杯は単独スポーツなのに五輪よりも人気がある大会だから、大活躍して優勝すれば世界中の大スター、レジェンドになれる
他のプロスポーツの世界大会じゃそこまでの人気、注目度はないし、ギブアンドテイクが釣り合わないからシビアな判断の結果辞退者が出る
他のプロスポーツの世界大会じゃそこまでの人気、注目度はないし、ギブアンドテイクが釣り合わないからシビアな判断の結果辞退者が出る
184名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:J+jPUasV02023/06/28(水) 20:03:42.05
ノヴィツキーはドイツ代表で国際大会にも全部でてた
でもそれを八村に望むのは酷だ
来シーズン、どこに行こうと確実に中心選手として高額で活躍できるノヴィツキ
一方、来シーズンLALが雇ってくれるか、安くトレードされる環境にある八村。
八村はNBAでやりたいから、今必死になるのは当たり前だ
ワタナビは、NBAにいるにしても安く雇ってくれるチームがいればラッキーで、そもそも自らNBAから去ろうとしてた怖いもんなしだから、出る。
ワタナビ、マッチするチームに行けることを祈る
でもそれを八村に望むのは酷だ
来シーズン、どこに行こうと確実に中心選手として高額で活躍できるノヴィツキ
一方、来シーズンLALが雇ってくれるか、安くトレードされる環境にある八村。
八村はNBAでやりたいから、今必死になるのは当たり前だ
ワタナビは、NBAにいるにしても安く雇ってくれるチームがいればラッキーで、そもそも自らNBAから去ろうとしてた怖いもんなしだから、出る。
ワタナビ、マッチするチームに行けることを祈る
185名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xUnHiEqA02023/06/28(水) 20:04:04.36
アメリカは本気じゃないにしても他の国は本気なんでしょ
186名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:J+jPUasV0
>>185
7月から移籍や契約のシーズンだから、来シーズンが確約してる超大物か、ラッキーでNBAに残れりゃいい奴しか参加しない。
アメリカ人はな。
それ以外の国で、そこそこなレベルにあるプレイヤーはアピールの機会だと思って参加する。
だからアメリカは、世界大会でちょくちょく負ける。
7月から移籍や契約のシーズンだから、来シーズンが確約してる超大物か、ラッキーでNBAに残れりゃいい奴しか参加しない。
アメリカ人はな。
それ以外の国で、そこそこなレベルにあるプレイヤーはアピールの機会だと思って参加する。
だからアメリカは、世界大会でちょくちょく負ける。
187名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/GtAaXXA02023/06/28(水) 20:17:57.12
サッカーはワールドカップで活躍出来れば選手としての価値も上がるし出る方が得。
バスケのワールドカップはオリンピックよりも価値の低い大会なので、当然クラブの方を優先して、出場辞退するという選択肢も出てくるよ。
サッカーなんて有力選手はＡ代表優先してオリンピックなんて眼中に無いというのが普通。
それに比べれば欧州の有力選手が辞退せずに参加したくれるだけバスケの方がましでは？
バスケのワールドカップはオリンピックよりも価値の低い大会なので、当然クラブの方を優先して、出場辞退するという選択肢も出てくるよ。
サッカーなんて有力選手はＡ代表優先してオリンピックなんて眼中に無いというのが普通。
それに比べれば欧州の有力選手が辞退せずに参加したくれるだけバスケの方がましでは？
188名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eilwWXjO02023/06/28(水) 20:19:33.19
まだなべがいる
189名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XPBOTkMC02023/06/28(水) 20:23:15.60
大坂なおみといい黒い奴らはなんでこうなんだよ
217名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7wXSKh6B0
>>189
お前らみたいなレイシストがいるからじゃね
お前らみたいなレイシストがいるからじゃね
190名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GvujsOS/02023/06/28(水) 20:23:41.24
NBA＞＞＞ワールドカップだから当然だろ
初めてのFAでどのチームに行くのかかなり重要だぞ
まあRFAだからレイカーズ確約済みかもしれないけど
初めてのFAでどのチームに行くのかかなり重要だぞ
まあRFAだからレイカーズ確約済みかもしれないけど
192名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BDmq6j1/02023/06/28(水) 20:25:17.17
ビジネス日本人なんだから当然だろ
テニスのアレと同じよ
テニスのアレと同じよ
193名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+sfFxl1002023/06/28(水) 20:26:21.76
バスケはルールも変わってくるからな
194名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3TE6OB3t02023/06/28(水) 20:30:54.43
バスケW杯なんてNBAに比べるレベルに無いイベント。八村をディスるニワカクズが沸いてる事に驚くわ🤯カスはレスするなっての！
195名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RVgkQ/DJ02023/06/28(水) 20:32:43.82
バスケ界の松井秀喜
196名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3TE6OB3t02023/06/28(水) 20:33:27.19
バスケW杯なんかアマチュアが出てりゃ良いのよ。八村をディスる奴はバスケの事なんか何も知らないクズばかり。タヒねや。
197名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ibm/hwDy02023/06/28(水) 20:33:34.36
アホくさ
サッカーと一緒にするなよw
サッカーと一緒にするなよw
198名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FjECsjj602023/06/28(水) 20:34:04.13
八村個人のことだけなら辞退でいいけどバスケ人気のこと考えたら出てほしいわな、アジアでも弱いとか男子バスケだけだろう
210名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bLOInqmx0
>>198
アジアでプロスポーツとして成り立ってるのはサッカーとバスケくらいしかない
野球とか存在すら知らない国が多いから強いも弱いもない
そもそも無なんだよ
アジアでプロスポーツとして成り立ってるのはサッカーとバスケくらいしかない
野球とか存在すら知らない国が多いから強いも弱いもない
そもそも無なんだよ
199名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:q+0BIXTT02023/06/28(水) 20:36:05.96
サッカーって世界で大人気のスポーツなのに日本のサカ豚って余裕なさすぎるよな
おー頑張ってるなーくらいでいればいいのに
おー頑張ってるなーくらいでいればいいのに
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wow, amazing
nice content!nice history!! boba 😀
wow, amazing
wow, amazing
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