502名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0x3ZLS2a02023/06/29(木) 11:36:25.26
中々表では言えないことだけど性差って確実にあるんだよ
それを無視してジェンダーだのとカルト染みた運動を推進した結果
トランスとかいう無敵の存在が出来上がった
それを無視してジェンダーだのとカルト染みた運動を推進した結果
トランスとかいう無敵の存在が出来上がった
503名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:veIt098/02023/06/29(木) 11:36:37.53
身体男性なのもその人の特徴で個性なんだから男性の試合に見た目女のトランス女性が出てもいいようにすればいいだけじゃね
見た目の統一感出すために本物の女性の方に混じるからおかしくなる
505名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:S/HxCUDx02023/06/29(木) 11:36:51.02
ヘビー級が心はフェザー級だと言ったら
フェザー級で扱ってくれるのかね
フェザー級で扱ってくれるのかね
506名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lteQ5JXP02023/06/29(木) 11:36:55.83
こういう意見を言える人がもっと出てくるといいな
510名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dZ4DTdKh0
>>506
身の危険が迫ってるからなw
そりゃ必死になるわ
身の危険が迫ってるからなw
そりゃ必死になるわ
511名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bo4RUkA802023/06/29(木) 11:37:56.03
スポーツは従来、体の性別で分けてきたんだから
心の性別は無視するべき
心の性別は無視するべき
512名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yZUCNqV602023/06/29(木) 11:37:56.53
そもそも男女分けるのが既に差別
性別で年齢で体重で分ける必要なんてない
人類皆平等にしね
性別で年齢で体重で分ける必要なんてない
人類皆平等にしね
530名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bo4RUkA80
>>512
プロスポーツは女性に門戸を解放してるが
契約できる選手は皆無
歴然とした実力差があるから
一緒にしたら女性は一切契約を取れない
プロスポーツは女性に門戸を解放してるが
契約できる選手は皆無
歴然とした実力差があるから
一緒にしたら女性は一切契約を取れない
515名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ka9rekAW02023/06/29(木) 11:38:33.43
こんなこと言い出したら女子供が殴り合いしてるのが間違いってことになるよ
516名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TmUP3JGE02023/06/29(木) 11:38:48.05
男はマイノリティになっても卑怯やな
518名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:l8+ReKnb02023/06/29(木) 11:38:50.35
トランス推進派は体脂肪率と男女の平均全く考えてなくて
階級差と体脂肪率の差を考えてないが
階級差と体脂肪率の差を考えてないが
もしトランス来るなら極限まで筋力と体脂肪率減らして下に階級増やして身体が男性の階級が物理的に不可能な条件でやらせたらいい
38kg級とか流石に男性は無理やろ
まあその女性同士のボクシングが面白いかどうかで言ったら微妙だけど
519名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7QDLLsg402023/06/29(木) 11:39:09.41
しかし当たり前のことなのになー
変な世の中になってきたで
変態が調子に乗りすぎなんや
変な世の中になってきたで
変態が調子に乗りすぎなんや
520名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lTHr8vnV02023/06/29(木) 11:39:25.52
スポーツも男女分けなくていいのに
521名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:EfLOffZw02023/06/29(木) 11:39:29.55
本来ならこれが正論なんだけど今の欧米は狂ってるからな
同じようなこと言ったハリーポッターの原作者がポリコレどもから袋叩きに合ってるし
もう色々と終わってるよあっちは
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もう色々と終わってるよあっちは
523名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZQ/W8sim02023/06/29(木) 11:39:39.94
まずは切り落とせ
その覚悟もないのに女を名乗るな
その覚悟もないのに女を名乗るな
525名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mnMCxdSo02023/06/29(木) 11:39:53.10
＞質問者が「もしマイク・タイソンがトランス女性なら、生物学的な女性とボクシングの試合をすることは許されるのか？」と尋ねると、相手が「短い答えで言うなら、“イエス”だ」という、議会のやり取りらしきものが写っている。
草
528名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rZr9WZUI02023/06/29(木) 11:40:16.16
もうええよトランスフォーマー飽きたわ
体は男なんやから男と闘えや、アホちゃうか
体は男なんやから男と闘えや、アホちゃうか
532名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:oWr1jJRb02023/06/29(木) 11:40:36.18
男様には敵いません許してくださいと土下座して頼めよ
535名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Bgesir2Z02023/06/29(木) 11:41:18.71
世界トップクラスの女子100m走は日本男子中学生100m走のトップクラスと同じくらい
筋力、身体能力的に高校生以上の男が女子に負ける事はまずない
筋力、身体能力的に高校生以上の男が女子に負ける事はまずない
536名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:r6J1DDJQ02023/06/29(木) 11:41:20.28
これは比喩でもなんでもなく単なる事実だしな
538名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:D/fjqGvS02023/06/29(木) 11:41:51.53
いやトランス女性を女性として認めるならたとえスポーツだろうと女性として参加させるべきだろ、スポーツ団体は自分達は差別主義者だと堂々と認めてトランス女性の参加を拒否すべきだ、自分達は差別主義者ではないがトランス女性は排除するなんてご都合主義は許されない
552名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PSrRIrGE0
>>538
トランス女という新たな性別を正式に定める必要があるな
じゃないと解決しないわ
トランス女という新たな性別を正式に定める必要があるな
じゃないと解決しないわ
585名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:S/HxCUDx0
>>552 第三の性と呼んでる頃のがまだマシだったな
570名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6gLlDVmm0
>>552
それをすると差別だっていいだしそうだよな
私は女なんだって
それをすると差別だっていいだしそうだよな
私は女なんだって
656名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rQoExBu40
>>570
差別ではなく区別です
中学の時の教師が別件だけど言ってた
差別ではなく区別です
中学の時の教師が別件だけど言ってた
595名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iUIdnJCf0
>>538
差別ではなくてそれは区別
女が被害者になる
差別ではなくてそれは区別
女が被害者になる
602名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9GnkuAsC0
>>595
この男女も女なんだよ
この男女も女なんだよ
615名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iUIdnJCf0
>>602
何が？
自認だけだろ
自認が女子高生のセーラー服おじさんとか本物のJKとして割引する必要ないしな
性自認とかいう本人主張なんて他人からしたら何の意味もない
何が？
自認だけだろ
自認が女子高生のセーラー服おじさんとか本物のJKとして割引する必要ないしな
性自認とかいう本人主張なんて他人からしたら何の意味もない
635名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9GnkuAsC0
>>615
高校生は自認できないが
ちゃんと高校生なら女子高校生として割引しなきゃいけないよ
高校生は自認できないが
ちゃんと高校生なら女子高校生として割引しなきゃいけないよ
693名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iUIdnJCf0
>>635
セーラー服おじさんは女子高生を自認している
セーラー服おじさんは女子高生を自認している
757名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lUX3rioV0
>>693
高校生かどうかは高校に確認すればわかる
馬鹿なのか？
高校生かどうかは高校に確認すればわかる
馬鹿なのか？
781名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iUIdnJCf0
>>757
性自認が女だという男の性染色体を調べればすぐに嘘だと分かる
バカなのか？
性自認が女だという男の性染色体を調べればすぐに嘘だと分かる
バカなのか？
820名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lUX3rioV0
>>781
性は自認です
性は自認です
859名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iUIdnJCf0
>>820
性とは染色体のことなんだが笑
性とは染色体のことなんだが笑
619名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xq6EClt40
>>615
そこを同じに捉えないと差別主義者としてリンチに遭うねん
そこを同じに捉えないと差別主義者としてリンチに遭うねん
620名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:D/fjqGvS0
>>595
いや差別だよ、俺はトランスに対しては差別して何が悪いとしか思わん
いや差別だよ、俺はトランスに対しては差別して何が悪いとしか思わん
698名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iUIdnJCf0
>>620
差別と区別という用語に悪意のある無しが含まれるなら
悪意はないから区別だね
差別と区別という用語に悪意のある無しが含まれるなら
悪意はないから区別だね
709名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:D/fjqGvS0
>>698
差別に悪意なんてないよ、たとえば”他社との差別化をはかる”って言葉に悪意はあるか？ないだろ、差別の何が悪いんだ
差別に悪意なんてないよ、たとえば”他社との差別化をはかる”って言葉に悪意はあるか？ないだろ、差別の何が悪いんだ
719名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iUIdnJCf0
>>709
無差別級という用語には悪意ないよな
それは日本語の慣用の問題だからどうでもいい
無差別級という用語には悪意ないよな
それは日本語の慣用の問題だからどうでもいい
562名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Nhn4i+dT0
>>538
アホだなー
スポーツには独自の規制があるんだから事前にルール決めればいいだけ
風邪薬のんだだけで参加できないのは差別だーって叫んでるの？馬鹿は
アホだなー
スポーツには独自の規制があるんだから事前にルール決めればいいだけ
風邪薬のんだだけで参加できないのは差別だーって叫んでるの？馬鹿は
594名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:D/fjqGvS0
>>562
風邪薬と性問題を同列に語るお前のほうがアホや
風邪薬と性問題を同列に語るお前のほうがアホや
587名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:k0VwdjvK0
>>538
じゃあ男女別を止めればいい
生物的に明らかに差がある女の中に生物的に有利な男で争う事に何の意義もない
じゃあ男女別を止めればいい
生物的に明らかに差がある女の中に生物的に有利な男で争う事に何の意義もない
540名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QjK468Ym02023/06/29(木) 11:41:52.50
雑魚しかいない世界に転生して無双するなろう小説みたい
543名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XNYfM/Je02023/06/29(木) 11:42:39.08
ウエイトを合わせても超えられん壁があるわな
545名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6gLlDVmm02023/06/29(木) 11:43:05.93
まぁ体力勝負とかに男の体で来られたら
チートじゃんっておもうよなぁ
チートじゃんっておもうよなぁ
猫ヒロシみたいに日本じゃだめだから弱い国で代表になるっていうのが認めらえてるけど
今度は男の世界では勝てないから女になるっていいだすやつも出そうだしなぁ
547名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8bjRRbV402023/06/29(木) 11:43:10.61
ボクシングとか、ずっと前から体重でかなり細かく階級分けしてるしね
それは、少しでも重い方が有利だから(ただのデブを除く)。
男女の性差も、きっちりしっかり分けないと。
LGBTの人は、無理矢理に弱い方の女子に入らなくてええやん？
「俺は男だ！男だぞー！」って言って男子枠に入るならまだしもさ。
それは、少しでも重い方が有利だから(ただのデブを除く)。
男女の性差も、きっちりしっかり分けないと。
LGBTの人は、無理矢理に弱い方の女子に入らなくてええやん？
「俺は男だ！男だぞー！」って言って男子枠に入るならまだしもさ。
結局、金目当てでしょ？
549名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9IWSx7mG02023/06/29(木) 11:43:36.01
スポーツは全部こんな感じで侵食されるだろうな
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