600名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DaIcMPBM02023/06/29(木) 11:49:36.75
これは当たり前だろ
死人出るわ
死人出るわ
601名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GdP6qBT/02023/06/29(木) 11:49:40.04
さっさとトランス部門作ってそこで年齢性別関係ない大乱闘でもしてろや
604名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bo4RUkA802023/06/29(木) 11:50:06.43
テニスは男子が5セットマッチ、女子が3セットマッチでしょ
仮に1セット取ったとしても長期で試合やれんのかね
仮に1セット取ったとしても長期で試合やれんのかね
605名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wWeb4yw+02023/06/29(木) 11:50:07.34
差別差別LGBTLGBTと騒いで何でも受け入れろになってきたな
607名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0OCLeB1W02023/06/29(木) 11:50:13.84
風俗行ったらトランス女性が出てきたら嫌だな
体はオトコでも心はオンナよ。差別しないでって言われてもなあ
体はオトコでも心はオンナよ。差別しないでって言われてもなあ
623名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QjK468Ym0
>>607
地獄すぎて草
金放り出してでも逃げるわ
地獄すぎて草
金放り出してでも逃げるわ
609名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S/aBk0cC02023/06/29(木) 11:50:27.69
結局は男は男、女は女でしかない
中性、両性類は人間にはあり得んわ
中性、両性類は人間にはあり得んわ
610名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aNePHOcb02023/06/29(木) 11:50:28.22
〇〇〇世界〇〇級
〇〇〇女子世界〇〇級
LGBT世界〇〇級
コレで解決
〇〇〇女子世界〇〇級
LGBT世界〇〇級
コレで解決
613名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xq6EClt40
>>610
女なのに女性部門に参加できないのは差別定期
女なのに女性部門に参加できないのは差別定期
633名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bo4RUkA80
>>613
体は男なんだから男性選手権に参加すればいい
同じような人と戦いたいなトランスジェンダー部門を作ってやればいいし
体は男なんだから男性選手権に参加すればいい
同じような人と戦いたいなトランスジェンダー部門を作ってやればいいし
642名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xq6EClt40
>>633
性自認で評価するのがグローバルスタンダードだからそれ通らないんよ
性自認で評価するのがグローバルスタンダードだからそれ通らないんよ
ここまで来るまでに止めなきゃいけなかった話なのに
6年前に潰しておくべき話だった
663名無しさん@恐縮ですID:L/sKku8X0
>>613
出生時の性別とホルモン量で制限付ければいい
出生時の性別とホルモン量で制限付ければいい
705名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xq6EClt40
>>663
心で評価してないから差別です
心で評価してないから差別です
611名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6/a3+t1Y02023/06/29(木) 11:50:48.73
精神的な障害者であって肉体は男だからな
スポーツに限らず公共の場でも通常の女性と隔離は必要だわ
男がいちゃ駄目な場所=トランス女(元男)もNGの場所
スポーツに限らず公共の場でも通常の女性と隔離は必要だわ
男がいちゃ駄目な場所=トランス女(元男)もNGの場所
612名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Z/z3+GZv02023/06/29(木) 11:51:11.19
命の危険がないスポーツで男と女のガチ試合見てみたいな
617名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0STXKCUx02023/06/29(木) 11:52:08.89
> 国際オリンピック委員会 (IOC) のガイドラインはインクルージョン(全ての立場の人が尊重・活躍できる)ファーストのアプローチを奨励しているが、
>世界陸連やワールドラグビー、世界水泳団体(FINA)はいずれも、女性部門で男性の思春期を経験したトランス女性の参加を禁止、制限している。
>世界陸連やワールドラグビー、世界水泳団体(FINA)はいずれも、女性部門で男性の思春期を経験したトランス女性の参加を禁止、制限している。
陸上、水泳、ラグビーで禁止なんだから
普通にその波にのればいいだけだろ
618名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6F7TTyYv02023/06/29(木) 11:52:40.67
スポーツは性差で区別しない、格闘技は階級のみ
ちゃんと男女平等にしようよ
ちゃんと男女平等にしようよ
622名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XBa1v3lG02023/06/29(木) 11:52:51.38
HENTAI JAPAN
ふたりエッチ
tps://youtube.com/shorts/0sYFHX6XsPE
校内羞恥プレイ
tps://youtu.be/SfSLTlbKKmU?t=258
624名無しさん@恐縮ですID:V8a4rZJX02023/06/29(木) 11:52:55.74
オカマとは絶対にケンカするな!男の腕力、女の理性www
625名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S/aBk0cC02023/06/29(木) 11:53:01.83
格闘技のトランス部門級をつくってその枠の中で
勝手にやってろ、ホモ野郎共
勝手にやってろ、ホモ野郎共
626名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Su2m9GtM02023/06/29(木) 11:53:09.99
女と男(女)じゃ筋肉量が全然違うもんな、気持ちの問題じゃなくて体の構造の問題だよ、これは声をあげることは素晴らしいと思う、危険だもん
649名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zEw/s7zX0
>>626
そもそも男女だけじゃなくて各個人毎に体の構造は異なる
それを合わせようとしたら試合になんてならんよ
違いはあくまで個人差としてなっとくするしかない
そもそも男女だけじゃなくて各個人毎に体の構造は異なる
それを合わせようとしたら試合になんてならんよ
違いはあくまで個人差としてなっとくするしかない
664名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9Uy6Q5s60
>>649
個人差まで言い出せばそりゃ試合なんて成立しない。
だからある程度のカテゴリ分けで試合を成立させる。その第一歩が性別ってだけの話だよ。
個人差まで言い出せばそりゃ試合なんて成立しない。
だからある程度のカテゴリ分けで試合を成立させる。その第一歩が性別ってだけの話だよ。
729名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zEw/s7zX0
>>664
だから性別や人種で分けてたら差別だろって話だよ
何の為に体重別で分けてるんだと
だから性別や人種で分けてたら差別だろって話だよ
何の為に体重別で分けてるんだと
683名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QjK468Ym0
>>649
それなら体重差で分ける必要もないわな(笑)
それなら体重差で分ける必要もないわな(笑)
675名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9GnkuAsC0
>>626
人種でも筋力は明らかに違うからな
なら人種は一括りにしていいのか?って話になる
細かく言えば一緒の人はいない
人種でも筋力は明らかに違うからな
なら人種は一括りにしていいのか?って話になる
細かく言えば一緒の人はいない
理屈では解決しないんよこれ
627名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pO9VgrL+02023/06/29(木) 11:53:10.03
筋肉ムキムキで黒人とか特にすごいもんなトランス黒人女性が
普通の女性選手の対戦相手なら死ねるよな
普通の女性選手の対戦相手なら死ねるよな
628名無しさん@恐縮ですID:L/sKku8X02023/06/29(木) 11:53:15.69
だから、女性をアンダーカテゴリーにするしかないんだって
「男」で区切らず、男女トランス全て参加可能な無制限クラスにしろよ
「男」で区切らず、男女トランス全て参加可能な無制限クラスにしろよ
629名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1AEd0qh002023/06/29(木) 11:53:26.19
トランス部門なんかいらね
631名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zEw/s7zX02023/06/29(木) 11:53:43.25
はい差別ですね
632名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dOUAhZei02023/06/29(木) 11:53:48.03
もはや、なんでもありでワロタ
634名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Su2m9GtM02023/06/29(木) 11:53:53.07
トランス同士で戦わせろよ(笑)
636名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ebOzBVcw02023/06/29(木) 11:54:06.62
これは正しい
筋肉の質が違い過ぎる
本物の女性側はマジで死ぬぞ
筋肉の質が違い過ぎる
本物の女性側はマジで死ぬぞ
662名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wWeb4yw+0
>>636
海外で見た目男性がトイレから出てきて驚いた女性が訴えられた事件もある
差別と騒ぎまくった弊害は日本はニュースならないんだよな
海外で見た目男性がトイレから出てきて驚いた女性が訴えられた事件もある
差別と騒ぎまくった弊害は日本はニュースならないんだよな
637名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ulj2IbXv02023/06/29(木) 11:54:33.16
昔、ナブラチが似たようなこと言って全世界からボコボコにされて謝罪させられてたやん。もう諦めて本人の性自認自己申告で何でも有りにしなきゃ。
639名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xhhBH3gV02023/06/29(木) 11:54:40.06
SDGsに反しているよ
ポリコネ様に刃向かうってこと?
ポリコネ様に刃向かうってこと?
640名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hPdhI09Y02023/06/29(木) 11:54:52.27
神取忍がタイのオカマボクサーに
顔変わるくらいボコボコにされてるの見て
女は男には勝てないんだって思ったわ
顔変わるくらいボコボコにされてるの見て
女は男には勝てないんだって思ったわ
641名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Tm0mqDxc02023/06/29(木) 11:55:01.62
将棋でも能力に性差あるんだからきっちり分けてあげて
643名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9UgcsXQv02023/06/29(木) 11:55:15.04
身体能力が違うから混合でやらないんだから肉体の性別で分けなきゃダメだよな
644名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8bjRRbV402023/06/29(木) 11:55:20.76
まあ、プロはもちろん、アマチュアでも上に行けば実業団選手とかかほとんどだし
結局、金が絡むわな。それは当たり前
トップ級で、誰も「趣味でやってます」みたいな人いないから。
金目だし、ルールは厳格だし、そこに性別を超えた(?グレー?)みたいな存在が混ざってくると、混乱するわな。
男子の競技に「心は男です!」って女性が混じってくるのはまだしも、
逆は、そりゃ問題視されるのが当然でしょ
結局、金が絡むわな。それは当たり前
トップ級で、誰も「趣味でやってます」みたいな人いないから。
金目だし、ルールは厳格だし、そこに性別を超えた(?グレー?)みたいな存在が混ざってくると、混乱するわな。
男子の競技に「心は男です!」って女性が混じってくるのはまだしも、
逆は、そりゃ問題視されるのが当然でしょ
645名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QfbkCCEO02023/06/29(木) 11:55:23.08
東京オリンピックにもトランス女性は出てたのに
https://tadaup.jp/2911543501.jpg
646名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QjK468Ym02023/06/29(木) 11:55:25.88
ヘビー級世界女チャンプとミニマム級男世界チャンプだったらどっちが勝つんかな(´ ・ω・`)
665名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hPdhI09Y0
>>646
吉田沙保里と亀田でいい勝負だと思う
吉田沙保里と亀田でいい勝負だと思う
700名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0STXKCUx0
>>665
吉田沙保里は階級上の女にすら勝てないのに
吉田沙保里は階級上の女にすら勝てないのに
695名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3BHguJjH0
>>665
んなわけねーだろ
沙保里も軽量級なわけで
亀にボコられるわ
んなわけねーだろ
沙保里も軽量級なわけで
亀にボコられるわ
697名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HcDna4o+0
>>695
判定勝ちが抜けてるぞ
判定勝ちが抜けてるぞ
682名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HcDna4o+0
>>646
48kgと90kgか
打撃系なら男、組系なら女が勝つかな分からんな
48kgと90kgか
打撃系なら男、組系なら女が勝つかな分からんな
647名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5RYpvEAS02023/06/29(木) 11:55:44.54
遅れているな
トランス女性に女子競技を解放してこそ先進国だろ
現在のトランス女性排除の流れはまさに魔女狩りだよ
トランス女性に女子競技を解放してこそ先進国だろ
現在のトランス女性排除の流れはまさに魔女狩りだよ
648名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1QUtdHQP02023/06/29(木) 11:55:46.62
ゆたぽんが性転換したら世界チャンピオンになれるのか
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