50名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LNZfcEF702023/06/27(火) 20:58:27.03
テントやカーテンで完全防御って忖度はありまぁすと自供してるようなものだろう
54名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bHX0HSfi02023/06/27(火) 21:05:20.47
裁判員裁判かな？
裁判員が猿の演技力に騙されなきゃいいけど
裁判員が猿の演技力に騙されなきゃいいけど
62名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jCzvJPnz0
>>54
自殺幇助は裁判員裁判の対象外だった気がする
自殺幇助は裁判員裁判の対象外だった気がする
55:ID:g9n7frK102023/06/27(火) 21:07:45.14
薬袋を捨てる理由がわからない
どうせかかりつけ医者に問い合わせたりしたらわかるのに
どうせかかりつけ医者に問い合わせたりしたらわかるのに
56名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BYA1BpRt02023/06/27(火) 21:09:43.67
>喜熨斗孝彦という本名で書いた遺書には、M氏を養子にして遺産のすべてを相続させる、と書かれていた
これさ、亡くなった両親は了承してないと思う
57名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jb+JvW4o0
>>56
だから殺したっていうのが筋だね
だから殺したっていうのが筋だね
58名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ziSq0Ad602023/06/27(火) 21:12:41.16
明らかな殺人なのに自殺幇助あつかいになっただけでも相当甘いと思う
187名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rDYr6aB90
>>58
こんな甘い判決が出たら全国で遺産目当てに
ニートが実行思想。眠らせてビニール案件
こんな甘い判決が出たら全国で遺産目当てに
ニートが実行思想。眠らせてビニール案件
59名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:D3gCAan102023/06/27(火) 21:13:07.00
♡が何気にきつい
61名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bHX0HSfi0
>>59
キスマークもあったそうだ💋
キスマークもあったそうだ💋
107名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NstS0q3v0
>>61
おっさんのキスマークて誰得だよ！
て、思ったけど、考えてみたらおっさんてそういうの好きよねw
おっさんのキスマークて誰得だよ！
て、思ったけど、考えてみたらおっさんてそういうの好きよねw
113名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:D3gCAan10
>>107
気取り方にも年齢って出るよね
気取り方にも年齢って出るよね
63名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:D3gCAan10
>>61
なんだろう
一連の報道で一番メンタルにダメージ通ったわ
キモい
なんだろう
一連の報道で一番メンタルにダメージ通ったわ
キモい
60名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Fv4ePtLb02023/06/27(火) 21:13:43.12
なんで遺書の内容まで漏れてるんだよ
怖いわ
怖いわ
64名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5BWOZwj202023/06/27(火) 21:19:34.92
死ぬ気がなかった時点で心中ではないだろうよ
こんなの殺人で捜査しなさいよ
こんなの殺人で捜査しなさいよ
65名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UIoyE5ai02023/06/27(火) 21:19:41.76
しかしクソメディアの逮捕されたら容疑者、逮捕されなければ送検されても容疑者と呼ばないしきたりなんとかならんのか
67名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jQ4/R6S80
>>65
マスゴミがカき乱してるんだよな
別にいいじゃねぇか逮捕されたって
有罪かどうかはその後決めることなのに
逮捕=有罪と思ってるバカが多いんだよね
マスゴミがカき乱してるんだよな
別にいいじゃねぇか逮捕されたって
有罪かどうかはその後決めることなのに
逮捕=有罪と思ってるバカが多いんだよね
68名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3IToTIvS0
>>65
名誉毀損回りの条文改正するような党に投票すれば違ってくるかな と
名誉毀損回りの条文改正するような党に投票すれば違ってくるかな と
69名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9krnZvqm0
>>65
山Pは「書類送付」というものすごいパワーワードまで生み出した
山Pは「書類送付」というものすごいパワーワードまで生み出した
86名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Z7/7OzVB0
>>65
逮捕待ちだったの分かっててこんなに騒ぎまくる方をなんとかして欲しい
逮捕待ちだったの分かっててこんなに騒ぎまくる方をなんとかして欲しい
108名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JGwHbPNG0
>>65
草なぎ容疑者…
草なぎ容疑者…
66名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vnD/EZBP02023/06/27(火) 21:20:31.29
お父さんとお母さんは死ぬ必要なかったんじゃないかと思う
70名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jQ4/R6S802023/06/27(火) 21:23:47.26
とはいえ、猿は有罪だがなw
71名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nf/s2/bU02023/06/27(火) 21:23:58.98
遺書の内容はどこから漏れたのやら
72名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:u0+PCOWq02023/06/27(火) 21:26:03.09
時間差逮捕だと有罪にできそうな罪状から攻めるのは当たり前
簡単に殺人容疑にすりゃいいってもんじゃない
簡単に殺人容疑にすりゃいいってもんじゃない
73名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:k3SwCXR402023/06/27(火) 21:26:36.02
なんせ証拠隠滅した挙句、朝7時に松竹に電話してるからな
マネージャーが来るまで何してたん？
マネージャーが来るまで何してたん？
自分だけ少ない量の薬飲んで、訪問のタイミングでクローゼットで首引っ掛けて眼をつぶってるとか…酷いな
74名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4BKt8GAA02023/06/27(火) 21:26:41.11
自殺ほう助は本人に明確な自殺の意思があると証明できないと成り立たないんじゃないかね
でも殺人に持ってくのはムヅカしいのかね
でも殺人に持ってくのはムヅカしいのかね
91名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hhPmCsgw0
>>74
今回のケースはほぼ間違いなく両親共にほう助になるやろ
どちらのケースも無理に薬を飲ませた形跡がないってのが大きい
父親の認知症の方もそれほど厄介なものではなかったように思う
少なくとも薬は自分で飲める程度は動けたはず
今回のケースはほぼ間違いなく両親共にほう助になるやろ
どちらのケースも無理に薬を飲ませた形跡がないってのが大きい
父親の認知症の方もそれほど厄介なものではなかったように思う
少なくとも薬は自分で飲める程度は動けたはず
97名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vyKWexy60
>>91
認知症が進んでいて意思の疎通は困難な状態だったとも報じてた
認知症が進んでいて意思の疎通は困難な状態だったとも報じてた
138名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LZhxcAFj0
>>97
あーそれだったら父親の方は立件できるかも
あーそれだったら父親の方は立件できるかも
93名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jCzvJPnz0
>>74
無理心中で自分は死ななかった場合通常なら殺人の容疑で逮捕する
同意の上での一家心中だと主張してる猿之助の言い分を鵜呑みにして自殺幇助で逮捕だから相当甘いよ
無理心中で自分は死ななかった場合通常なら殺人の容疑で逮捕する
同意の上での一家心中だと主張してる猿之助の言い分を鵜呑みにして自殺幇助で逮捕だから相当甘いよ
75名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:k3SwCXR402023/06/27(火) 21:27:39.34
あれ、二重投稿になってすまぬ
76名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eLbayj0C02023/06/27(火) 21:27:42.80
有名人だし注目度も高いので
万が一にも起訴して無罪ということは許されない
したがって確実な容疑で手を打ったのだろう
万が一にも起訴して無罪ということは許されない
したがって確実な容疑で手を打ったのだろう
78名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:D3gCAan102023/06/27(火) 21:28:33.10
置いてたキャンバスに殴り書きだから誰でも見れたんだろう
と、思ったけどよく考えたら置いてるキャンバスにキスマークまでつけてたらノリノリすぎてちょっと異様
と、思ったけどよく考えたら置いてるキャンバスにキスマークまでつけてたらノリノリすぎてちょっと異様
79名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yS+6Fzdw02023/06/27(火) 21:30:27.58
レンドルミン併用で死ぬか？
ねえよ
101名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eSfAJwER0
>>79
よほど運が悪かったとしても2人とも狙い通りに逝く可能性は…
相当低いというかあり得ないな
よほど運が悪かったとしても2人とも狙い通りに逝く可能性は…
相当低いというかあり得ないな
80名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Y+wxiyPH02023/06/27(火) 21:30:29.60
スーパーウルトラ勝ち組でしょ？なんで心中する必要があるん？意味わからん
81名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9krnZvqm0
>>80
未成年パワハラなんて示談すればいい話なのにね
未成年パワハラなんて示談すればいい話なのにね
82名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JlZa6E3d02023/06/27(火) 21:32:32.09
殺人だろ 殺人犯
83名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:k3SwCXR402023/06/27(火) 21:39:21.89
ご両親、遺書を書いてたんじゃないのかな
読んだ猿之助が破棄したくなる遺書
177名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wcgHPBwz0
>>83
これはありそう
これはありそう
84名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JlGUNFPa02023/06/27(火) 21:41:03.98
違法になる前にセックスドラッグ大量に買って持ってたんじゃね？
96名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vyKWexy60
>>84
そっち系の向精神薬だと思ってる
薬の成分を慎重に調べてるとはいえ政府がかなり配慮してるのは確かだから
それも有耶無耶になるだろうな
そっち系の向精神薬だと思ってる
薬の成分を慎重に調べてるとはいえ政府がかなり配慮してるのは確かだから
それも有耶無耶になるだろうな
元神奈川県警捜査一課の刑事が
遺書などもなく猿之助の証言しかないのでその話を聞いて判断したのでしょうから
幇助が妥当だったと思いますよと言ってた
さすが明らかに他殺でも
いつも自殺で片付ける神奈川県警の方針が染み込んでる元刑事の話は説得力がある
あんなのを解説に呼ぶニュース番組
87名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WeXGT2aq02023/06/27(火) 21:46:58.65
同意があったとはいえ実質親殺しという重大な事件を起こした後に
特に将来添い遂げようみたいな誓いもないような恋人に大好き♥来世でも一緒のキャッチーさが全く繋がらない
どんな精神状態？
特に将来添い遂げようみたいな誓いもないような恋人に大好き♥来世でも一緒のキャッチーさが全く繋がらない
どんな精神状態？
92名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hhPmCsgw0
>>87
そんな精神状態だったからの結果やろ？w
そんな精神状態だったからの結果やろ？w
88名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vP8F1aFo02023/06/27(火) 21:47:56.91
> 自らも薬を服用していたものの、致死量を飲んだにもかかわらず奇跡的に助かったというよりも、最初から死ぬ気がなかったのではないかとも思えるほどの量しか飲んでいなかったようです
うわぁー
89名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:331hsOLT02023/06/27(火) 21:48:55.77
Mはなんも知らないなんてある？
養子にとか書かれた遺書があるのに…
養子にとか書かれた遺書があるのに…
90名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8Bu4st6+02023/06/27(火) 21:49:01.67
>〈愛するM♡大好き 次の世で会おうね〉とスケッチ用キャンバスに書き残して
親を手にかけて自分もこれから死のうってときにこんなポップな感じなのが俺には理解できないんだけど
94名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ocYRZ1QC02023/06/27(火) 21:51:48.59
親の子殺しは無罪にするべき日本は親子関係を
神聖視しすぎ親というのは生まれて初めて見たものを
親だと認識してるにすぎないそして
神聖視しすぎ親というのは生まれて初めて見たものを
親だと認識してるにすぎないそして
近親相関などを防ぐのと自立のための機能として
だんだん親を嫌悪するようになるようできてる
そして祖父母やおじおばと順を追って
血縁から離れやがては血縁としては他人の
配偶者を自力で見つけられるために自立となる
95名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ocYRZ1QC0
>>94
逆だ子の親殺しは無罪だった親を殺すのは
正当防衛だよ自立を妨げようとする親ならば
殺してでも離れなきゃならん
逆だ子の親殺しは無罪だった親を殺すのは
正当防衛だよ自立を妨げようとする親ならば
殺してでも離れなきゃならん
98名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WeXGT2aq02023/06/27(火) 21:59:52.73
ストレスにより自分が処方されてた薬を何故か飲まずに集めてた
飲まないので更に躁鬱激しくパワハラ・セクハラしてた
週刊誌に掲載されることを知り一気に鬱状態に
介護疲れの闘病苦の両親を巻き添えにする
自分も途中までは死ぬつもりだったけど途中で冷めた
このまま生き残るなら恋人にこんなに俺はお前のことを愛してるんだよアピールしたくなった
これを見た恋人はきっと俺の愛に胸を打たれ更に俺を愛してくれるだろう
回復したら恋人と一緒になろう…そうしよう
まで想像した
飲まないので更に躁鬱激しくパワハラ・セクハラしてた
週刊誌に掲載されることを知り一気に鬱状態に
介護疲れの闘病苦の両親を巻き添えにする
自分も途中までは死ぬつもりだったけど途中で冷めた
このまま生き残るなら恋人にこんなに俺はお前のことを愛してるんだよアピールしたくなった
これを見た恋人はきっと俺の愛に胸を打たれ更に俺を愛してくれるだろう
回復したら恋人と一緒になろう…そうしよう
まで想像した
99名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OsgxXS7T02023/06/27(火) 22:01:04.43
サイレース＋レンドルミン例えばそれぞれ10錠飲んでも死なないよ。と言うか今の睡眠薬死ねないよ。寝ゲロでは死ぬ人いるがな。
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