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ROLLY、「あなたはレッドツェッペリン評論家ですか?」ファンへの執拗な問い詰めツイートを謝罪「失礼な事を…深く反省」

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300名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MfjF7xIE02023/07/21(金) 04:52:39.98
この人、ものまねギター芸人だよね
ジミーペイジ、ブライアンメイ、マークボランなんかを真似しているけど
リスペクト一切なし。特徴を誇張して笑いを取る
ものまね芸人そのもの
ピアノ界の清水ミチコ。ギター界のRollyってところ
302名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Prxb9pJF02023/07/21(金) 05:00:16.30
ババというのはすかんちの初代ボーカリスト

バンドに多大な借金を背負わせて
その後脱退した
なのですかんちがデビューした時の
ロッキンFのインタビューにてROLLYに故人扱いされてた
しまちゃんとポンプから「まだ生きてる!」ってツッコまれてたw

303名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oyGQlXco02023/07/21(金) 05:03:21.28
まぁ自分の代表曲じゃなくて他人の代表曲でキレるってのは大人げないね
304名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bFmS8Z2w02023/07/21(金) 05:04:04.74
まさにこれ

62 名無しさん@恐縮です 2023/07/20(木) 16:40:15.40 ID:cKUQudIi0
有名人は内心ブチ切れても一旦目を逸らして枕でも殴ってりゃいいんだよ

305名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3c3SYLVw02023/07/21(金) 05:08:06.23
こんな攻撃性を見せても音楽ファンが弁護してあげて攻撃されたファンの方が晒し者にされるんだから有名人はいいなあ
逆だったら誹謗中傷で訴訟されてる
309名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Tdp0rYCs0
>>305
逆のパターンなんて殆どの有名人が日々経験してますが
312名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1J+yO8MT0
>>305
もとからローリーに人徳は誰も求めていない
306名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S6er8PG602023/07/21(金) 05:10:25.83
この人昔フォローしてたけど、自分へのリプでイエスマン以外はすぐ攻撃して蹴散らすモラハラ体質で見てて感じ悪かったからすぐフォロー外したんだよね
基本一般人バカにしてて、プライド高くて業界の権力高い連中やイエスマンに囲まれてれば機嫌良いって感じの器の狭いって印象でガッカリした記憶
この記事出て、またやってるんだって感じ
307名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Mw+O/XWf0
315名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S6er8PG60
>>307
この人の事は知らなかったけど、Twitterってパヨだけでなく、こうした攻撃的で我儘で生理的に言いたい放題やる中高年層の声ばかりが目立つ様になって辞めた
あいつらがスマホ持ち始めてSNSが崩壊したと思っている
313名無しさん@恐縮ですID:U9wXNKvC0
>>306
なんか意外だね
308名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pHrhZ7xW02023/07/21(金) 05:20:28.09
ROLLYは親族と同◯生に犯罪者が居る

今回の件でROLLY自身もヤバい奴だと判った

310名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ml1iiSCF02023/07/21(金) 05:25:21.74
同級生に犯罪者なら、心優しい俺にもいるぞ
昔の友が懲役6年だった
311名無しさん@恐縮ですID:p9S39kwP02023/07/21(金) 05:25:49.24
コアなファンじゃなきゃローリーの演奏見に行かないだろうからなあ
314名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tIadrnFf02023/07/21(金) 05:29:19.30
まあ直ぐに謝ったのならええやん
白虎隊を描ける漫画家は自分だけ、それ以外の漫画は全て偽物と断罪して
読者から抗議されたら逆ギレ、1年間に渡って執拗にその読者を攻撃し続けて
勝手に勝利宣言した渡辺多恵子と比べたら
318名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LJ1vgagw0
>>314
マジか?
そんなヤバい人だったんだな
追い詰めたのはTwitterでなの?
320名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LJ1vgagw0
>>314
新撰組ではなく白虎隊なのね
あの人の新撰組の漫画は面白かったんだけどな

残念だわー

319名無しさん@恐縮ですID:D4H8bSOS02023/07/21(金) 05:34:09.24
いまどきZEPファンなんて頑迷な老人しかいないだろ
321名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0Vmvg6Hp02023/07/21(金) 05:37:02.55
電気ブタナマズ
322名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lqdRkn/t02023/07/21(金) 05:39:26.50
324名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xI7M/JwB0
>>322
宣伝に必死で草
ブログ主は何に対して必死なんだ?
323名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0RC4enND02023/07/21(金) 05:47:25.34
最近プロに徹しきれない、一般人の感想で折れるプロもどきが多いね
生の感情を見聞きするのが怖いなら、観客数とか売上げとか数字だけ見てなさい

自分でTwitterエゴサして、反論を書き込んで凹まさずには居られない
そんな程度なら表に出る仕事なんて辞めりゃあ良いんだ。

325名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xI7M/JwB02023/07/21(金) 05:54:05.55
貼れないから
手入力で閲覧してみてね

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326名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lPRbvLVf02023/07/21(金) 06:05:58.22
心の自由を奪われちゃう
絶望的なのねん
327名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MVsIZI/902023/07/21(金) 06:08:56.86
いや、言いがかりつけた方が悪いだろ
これに対する批判も言いがかり
411名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yxUdr/qX0
小心者だから強迫性障害みたいなエゴサして噛み付くんだよ
>>327
言いがかり付けてんのはRollyの方だぞ
過去の褒めTweetにまで遡って嫌味ったらしく噛み付いて、今更削除してる卑劣さ
ファンは褒めTweetまで執拗に否定されて、今更口先の謝罪されても受け入れられないし立ち直れんよ
ここまで理不尽な性格では、Rolly寺西にステージ立つ資格ないわ
328名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Eae6/QwP02023/07/21(金) 06:11:25.27
この件を解説していた人が居たけど、分かりやすかった
ローリー自体は自称イタコ芸人と言ってて、出す曲とかも○○風であることを自称してた
まあ、清水ミチコのユーミン風に歌ってみたとか中島みゆき風に歌ってみたみたいなことをやってる自称「ロック芸人」なんだよね
で、今回ジミーペイジの横でジミーペイジ風ギター弾いてみるってのをやったんだけど、このツイ主は「上手いけどローリーオリジナルでジミーペイジっぽくない」と発言したと
まあ、清水ミチコがユーミンの横でユーミン風ピアノやったらユーミンじゃなくて清水ミチコ風だと言われたようなもの
だからローリーはお前はジミーペイジの何が分かる?と詰め寄ったと
このツイ主も頑固で「ローリーのファンだしギターも好きだけどジミーペイジ風じゃない」ってなことを謝りながらもずっといい続けてたから余計荒れたと
まあ、モノマネ芸人に「ファンだしディスってないけど似てないですよね」って言えばそりゃ似てないと言われるよりも更にキレるわなと(コロッケ除く)
330名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MVsIZI/90
>>328
最近のユーミンは声ガッサガサだから、ユーミン本人より清水ミチコの方がかつてのユーミン感がある
332名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lMGP4ye50
>>328
実際あのプレイが玄人を唸らせるほどのモノマネだったのか
評論出来る人が現れないとわからんのよなw
342名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hJwIbPw70
>>332
2007年にGood Times Bad Timesを生で聴いた沢尻エリカに比較して評論してもらえばいい
344名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Eae6/QwP0
>>332
清水ミチコはライブでユーミン風とかやる時に、ユーミンの曲はこんなフレーズ使いたがるとか先に解説してそれ盛り込んだユーミン風やったりするけど、ローリーはあくまでも自称イタコ芸人で本職ミュージシャンだからなw
分かる奴には分かるみたいな部分はあるんだと思う、分かる奴が居るのかは俺も知らんけどw
333名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SmkyGLZi0
>>328
どっちも大人気ないなwww
でもエゴサで凸したならローリーのがみっともないかも
369名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pH7jslWO0
>>328
ものまね芸人ホリのえなりかずきのものまね「先にシャワー浴びて来いよ」に
「えなりかずきはそんなこと言わない」ってツッコむようなものか
329名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MVsIZI/902023/07/21(金) 06:11:46.86
Youtubeの
マーティとローリーがジミー・ペイジに会って、マーティだけ食事だかに誘われて無名なローリーはスルーされてる動画見てワロタ
334名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lPRbvLVf02023/07/21(金) 06:24:59.01
ウルフルケイスケさんとの対談だったかの時に自分達には芸人的な部分があってどうのこうのと やたら熱く語っていたな この人
345名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Eae6/QwP0
>>334
解説してた人の説明にあったけど、ロックミュージシャンには多いらしいけど誰々の影響を受けてって系譜みたいなのを大事にしてる人が多くて、わざと影響受けた人のリフを曲に入れるとかってことをする人も多いらしい
あくまでもそれはパクリではなくリスペクト、音楽遺伝子を受け継いでるだけだと

ローリーはそういう思想が日本の音楽シーンの中でも強烈に強い人で、すかんちも洋楽のパロディやってると自称していて、楽曲に「恋の」を付けたがってたのも洋楽の邦題に「恋の~」ってのが多かったからだとか

まあそういうローリーの土台を知った上で一連のツイート読み返してみると、確かにこのツイ主はファンと言いつつローリーの曲を貶してるようにも読み取れるなと

346名無しさん@恐縮ですID:igFiD67h0
>>345
ずいぶん壮大なアンチが居たもんだね
350名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lPRbvLVf0
>>345
まあレッドツェッペリン自体が元々リフなど探せばかなりの数の元ネタがあるよね
オマージュといえば聞こえはいいけどみたいな
351名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GkZETgiG0
>>345
ツイ主はローリーのライブや舞台に熱心にお金を落としてたファンなんだから芸風は理解してるでしょう

今回は自分が想像した演奏とは違ったと感想を言ったらエゴサしたローリーに居なくなれだの長時間罵倒されて気の毒ねって話で

336名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+jpku7lB02023/07/21(金) 06:25:37.33
次から耳の肥えたマニア向けのライブだということを明記しておくべき

推しに「居なくなって」ってエゴサで言われたファンの心情を思うとつらい

337名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EADRh2V802023/07/21(金) 06:27:22.15
「私はジミー・ペイジ自身が演奏しているフレーズだけではなく、
色々な曲、テイク他のフレーズ、をライブでアドリブで取り入れて即興するのが好きです」などと反論

これの意味がわからない 1曲じゃないのか
色んな曲の一部のフレーズだけ繋げて演奏してたってこと?

338名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eo4p2Teo02023/07/21(金) 06:28:58.49
ファンのツイート見たけどかなりのROLLYオタクじゃん
ご自身の演奏法って褒めてるつもりなんだろうし喰ってかかりすぎじゃね
あんだけ責められたらもうROLLYのライブも行かないだろ
339名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3F9ybFeH02023/07/21(金) 06:31:17.07
ROLLY(寺西一雄)本人さんはTwitterを使っています: 「本日はパリ祭2日目。 今日もリアルタイム配信で サンタナ調の泣きのギターを 披露します そして17日は瀬戸田ベルカントホールのパリ祭に出演いたします。 瀬戸田は日本一のレモンの産地。心を奪われるサンセットや、異次元の体験、耕三寺など素晴らしい思い出となるでしょう。」


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0WHN3cagAI1hl3.jpg

美川憲一も出演してたのなんかおもろい
https://twitter.com/5chan_nel (5ch newer account)
https://twitter.com/RollyBocchan/status/1679689579828482048

340名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3F9ybFeH0
>>339
これ広島ではなく東京のだった
341名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3pRH2sFT02023/07/21(金) 06:32:49.07
ペイジのテイストないけどな
ジョーペリーみたいなあっさり風やろローリーは
347名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qNEqoQBQ02023/07/21(金) 07:13:22.04
Twitterは見るだけにしといた方が精神的に安全
書きたいならここ
348名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7CHSza9p02023/07/21(金) 07:15:13.94
直接謝罪してヴィンテージギターをプレゼントしたらいい
356名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PqF7ixUm0
>>348
それくらいしないとな
349名無しさん@恐縮ですID:r8f2OXTY02023/07/21(金) 07:15:49.83
ローリーより布袋の方がギター巧い
桁が違いすぎる
358名無しさん@恐縮ですID:00NRlh+o0
>>349
それはどうだろう?
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