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ROLLY、「あなたはレッドツェッペリン評論家ですか?」ファンへの執拗な問い詰めツイートを謝罪「失礼な事を…深く反省」

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1muffin ★ID:5LoYEovn92023/07/20(木) 21:38:02.09
https://npn.co.jp/article/detail/200030842
2023年07月20日 12時00分

ロックバンドすかんちのROLLYが、自身の公式Twitterでファンを執拗に攻撃、謝罪し話題となっている。

ROLLYは、旧名ローリー寺西として『笑っていいとも!』(フジテレビ系)に出演するなど、バラエティでも活躍してるロックシンガー・ギタリスト。17日に行われた広島県尾道市で開催された『パリ祭~シャンソンの祭典』に出演、Led Zeppelinの楽曲カバーにギタリストとして参加したライブの模様が共演者の公式SNSで公開されていた。

18日、このライブを観たファンの感想ツイートが逆鱗に触れたようで、ROLLYはしつこく攻撃を繰り返し、騒動となった。ファンのツイートは“Led Zeppelinのギタリストであるジミー・ペイジのプレイを再現するのではなく、ROLLYは自由に自分の音を奏でていた”という内容。これにROLLYが返信し、「私はジミー・ペイジ自身が演奏しているフレーズだけではなく、色々な曲、テイク他のフレーズ、をライブでアドリブで取り入れて即興するのが好きです」などと反論、「僕の演奏が気に入らないのなら、是非これからは私の居ない演奏を聴いたほうがためになります」とも付け足した。

その後もファンは悪気はないながらROLLYの演奏を「ご自身の演奏法」と表現するなど、あくまで「ジミーペイジが弾きそうなフレーズ」とするROLLYの怒りを煽ってしまう展開に。ファンの返信が滞るタイミングでは「貴方はジミー・ペイジのギタープレイを完全把握してしているのですか?????」「貴方はレッドツェペリン評論家ですか????????る????る???????????」「ペイジのプレイをどれだけ知っていますか?」「いつか、あんたがこれがジミーペイジのフレーズだ!あんたのは間違ってると何万人の前で言いなさいよ!」などと10~20分おきに激しい口調で攻撃。返信、謝罪したファンに「何が気に食わないか聴かせなさい。レッドツェペリンの全てを知ってるんでしょ?」とさらに攻撃。ファンのほうは冷静で、ROLLYの音楽が好きでLed ZeppelinのことはROLLYの方が詳しいと謝罪し、時間を割いて返信してもらったことに感謝の意も返信していた。(ROLLYの各投稿は現在削除)

この異常なまでの攻撃に批判が殺到。これを受けてROLLYは19日、「この度は応援してくださる皆様のみならず、沢山の方々を不快にさせてしまい、心より猛反省しております。以後この様な事が絶対無い様に肝に命じて頑張ります。」と謝罪し、各ツイートを削除。更に、攻撃してしまったファンに「パリ祭などにも来ていただき応援して下さっている、あなた様に私はなんて失礼な事をしてしまったのか」「許してくださいというのも厚かましいですが、もし機会をいただけるのならば、直接謝罪をさせて下さい。」と反省文を投稿している。

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6名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MqO65IbE0
>>1
> 「許してくださいというのも厚かましいですが、もし機会をいただけるのならば、直接謝罪をさせて下さい。」

機会を与えてはいけない
マンツーマンで対面したら謝罪どころか徹底的に追い詰めてくるに決まってる

32名無しさん@恐縮ですID:e4RnEV6T0
>>1
なんや、寺西さんか。
あだ名が『電気ナマズ犬』だったっけ?
72名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Eb3QPb040
>>32
電気豚ナマズね
63名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yv4oH+1S0
>>1
今年の9月で還暦なのね。なら納得かな。
このくらいの年齢だと頭の柔軟性がなくなりだしてて、
他人の意見を聞く姿勢が皆無だからね。
あやまったところでまた似たようなことやらかすよ。
221カイトID:AkqS7tyb0
>>1
時期滝候補かな?でも嫌いじゃないよ、今の世の中真面目なやつよりこういう人がまた必要。面白いやん。
331名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nywpBfJM0
>>1
キチガイ相手したらダメ
335名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SRGRmQrF0
>>331
この場合どちらをキチ認定していらっしゃるのかしら?
413名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yxUdr/qX0
>>335明らかにRolly寺西が人格障害な上に認知症じみた攻撃性で問題がある。
他の過去Tweetにまでしつこく嫌味リプつけに行くのはストーカー気質
しかもファン心を存分に傷付けた後に、自分の評判気にして証拠隠滅してる
どこまで卑怯な小心者なんだあの男
359名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dSpbBqkP0
>>1
酒でも飲んでたんじゃねえの?ろーりー
376名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jioug6je0
>>1
コピーやるやつって一定割合で自分拘りが異様に強い奴いるからな~
ローリーもその類なんだろ

そして俺こそがペイジを誰より好きで誰より詳しくて、つまり俺がペイジ!ってなってるから
ペイジじゃないよねっていう当たり前の感想にブチ切れてしまう

これは突っ込む方も類友だと更に怒りが増幅される
つまり、自由にやれよってスタンスの人が言うより、演奏法やフレーズの完コピに拘る系のコピー支持スタンスのやつに突っ込まれる方がイラつく
オタク同士での見解の違いみたいな

398名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vX4hkbN50
>>1
謝る必要もないよ。
415名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aVaj30GM0
>>1
あたおかやん、、こわ、、
何かの疾患?
416名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yxUdr/qX0
>>415アル中酒乱や認知症カスハラ老害並みに前頭葉と海馬が萎縮して扁桃体が腫れてると思う。
老化なのか、過去の薬物やアルコールが原因か分からないが、性格の悪さだけでここまでストーカー的な攻撃性はない
周囲に迷惑だから、もうワンマンショー以外の舞台に関わるべきではない
2名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jpYAJKEl02023/07/20(木) 21:38:28.83
赤い飛行船ってどういう意味なん?
8名無しさん@恐縮ですID:C3JDDEpm0
>>2
赤じゃなく鉛だろ 釣りか
343名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wVjxLB0c0
>>8
こういうのがあるから5ちゃんはやめられん
375名無しさん@恐縮ですID:C2vKnnBl0
>>8
1970年代にはRのコーナーに置かれてたレコードショップがあった
3名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/DFDUobH02023/07/20(木) 21:38:48.27
ちんかす
4名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8sxfZ5kl02023/07/20(木) 21:40:17.13
まぁ解決したならええやん
5名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yHFbsY2R02023/07/20(木) 21:41:30.38
火病みたいだな
7名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LGDFmuAy02023/07/20(木) 21:42:20.98
かつてのイジメられっ子もここまで人が変わりファンに詰め寄れるようになるわけだ
316名無しさん@恐縮ですID:35EQx44G0
>>7
ヲタが高度なヲタ知識を使った話を展開していたら素人がすごいねー自由な発想だねーと絡んできたので
我を忘れてそいつ詰めた
9名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QDd78q5m02023/07/20(木) 21:43:03.40
狂ってる
445名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yz5c3nmJ0
>>9
うむ
10名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ft6910ST02023/07/20(木) 21:43:28.35
カバーするのにオリジナリティは要らんけどな
忠実なコピーが望ましい
357名無しさん@恐縮ですID:M4HDGKe60
>>10
コピーとカバーは違うから
コピーは原曲を忠実に再現する
カバーはアレンジ入れたり原曲と全く違う物になったりする
11名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yiZElpBv02023/07/20(木) 21:43:38.36
レッドツベルクリン反応
12名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JCdeG4PA02023/07/20(木) 21:44:34.91
更年期障害だなわりとマジで
317名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mp3OiVUS0
>>12
うむ、恐らくね。ギターとか裁縫とか1人で無言で夢中になれちゃうものはなりやすいとか。
13名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uKxOB+Eb02023/07/20(木) 21:44:54.74
オタクの地雷を踏むとこうなる
14名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4v7NQwGN02023/07/20(木) 21:45:01.40
更年期障害
15名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4gqjolhz02023/07/20(木) 21:45:17.81
いとこは薬中だしな
16名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GSR35Pty02023/07/20(木) 21:45:20.29
ツェッペリンに敬意がある日本のミュージシャンは奥田民生だけ

伊達にジミーペイジに憧れてヴィンテージの59年製レスポール持ってない

27名無しさん@恐縮ですID:utwXJLzp0
>>16
故人だが西城秀樹
29名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OZvkW5RG0
>>16
ギターへったくそで勿体ない
40名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bVgg5fwD0
>>16
アルフィーの高見沢もツェッペリンを敬愛して、未だに
全盛期のロバートプラントの髪型を真似ている。
51名無しさん@恐縮ですID:w4w8XpFJ0
>>16
PATA「…」
61名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+gRNW29c0
>>51
PATAはジェフ・ベックとCharの人だろ
372名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uyq4XrAv0
>>16
ROLLY、奥田でZEPコピバンやったとき、ROLLYがプラント、奥田がペイジだったよな
17名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3TovPRJw02023/07/20(木) 21:45:46.19
これにはケリーサイモンも苦笑い
18名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dfoHSObc02023/07/20(木) 21:46:27.08
何気にギター上手いROLLY
なおすかんちの曲は一曲も知らん
19名無しさん@恐縮ですID:72eRGfdb02023/07/20(木) 21:46:36.19
ファンじゃないのになんかショック
20名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SAkVAJmb02023/07/20(木) 21:46:51.51
素人に向かって「できもしないくせに」ってじゃあ誰に見せるために演奏してんの?
素人に向かって「お前もやってみろ」ってそっちから素人の土俵におりてきてどうすんの?
素人を比較対象にしてる時点でお前も同じレベルになってんのよ?いいの?それで?
93名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Z78GDTuj0
>>20
すごい早口
21名無しさん@恐縮ですID:p27NvNGr02023/07/20(木) 21:47:12.62
なぜか大泉洋の声で再生されたw
450名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HSUvm3J90
>>21

ファン藤村「そうだね、そうだね、いや僕が悪かった!」
22名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zWnLg2fF02023/07/20(木) 21:47:25.70
_ノ乙(、ン、)_これは徹底的に第三者機関にお願いして、どれだけ似てるのか否かを調査しないとね^^
23名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lJDxDBi202023/07/20(木) 21:47:46.92
はしたないぞ寺西
24名無しさん@恐縮ですID:96DEeVat02023/07/20(木) 21:49:41.62
案外ファンの方も折れてないから加熱した感じだね
まあこれはローリーが粘着しすぎかな
25名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sERVny3c02023/07/20(木) 21:50:15.92
ローリーも反省してるんやろ?
ジミーペイジが好きと言うより
ローリーファンでローリーを見にライブに行ったんだからきっと許してくれてるよ
26名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xbqKVWM/02023/07/20(木) 21:50:27.12
なんでこんな伸びてんの
28名無しさん@恐縮ですID:J/u67JLk02023/07/20(木) 21:50:49.67
る??
てなんなん
60名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3FMYJ1A20
>>28
フリックで書き込んだんやろ
らの↑でる
記号の↑で?
71名無しさん@恐縮ですID:J/u67JLk0
>>60
リプ間違えた
ら、ってなんの続き
67名無しさん@恐縮ですID:J/u67JLk0
>>28
ら、も不要ちゃうん?
433名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dq9gi5Cj0
>>67
12キーのらの下が記号
↑フリックでるor?

連打すると
?????るる???る???

30名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Uet5AR3302023/07/20(木) 21:52:33.38
言葉足らずと文盲の不幸なマリアージュって事で許してやったらどうや
31名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AUUYXv0E02023/07/20(木) 21:52:57.48
スイートおたくじゃないのか
33名無しさん@恐縮ですID:utwXJLzp02023/07/20(木) 21:53:07.85
ロックFUJIYAMA見るのやめるわ
34名無しさん@恐縮ですID:W7c2aqqc02023/07/20(木) 21:53:18.92
ちんかすの分際で生意気
35名無しさん@恐縮ですID:00GSVSAc02023/07/20(木) 21:53:20.00
「すいませーん」
「いーよー」
36名無しさん@恐縮ですID:D4+s7mvF02023/07/20(木) 21:53:20.77
完コピなら本物を聞けばいいからなw
111名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vgdB7gEG0
>>36
ペイジ本人も完コピ出来ません
37名無しさん@恐縮ですID:D4+s7mvF02023/07/20(木) 21:53:22.45
完コピなら本物を聞けばいいからなw
38名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JnWuZgAe02023/07/20(木) 21:54:26.74
許してくださいというのも厚かましいですが、もし機会をいただけるのならば、直接謝罪をさせて下さい…って

怖くて会えないよ!(´;ω;`)

39名無しさん@恐縮ですID:erYoJR6R02023/07/20(木) 21:54:43.12
メタル嫌いだけどROCKFUJIYAMAは大好きだった
一度も曲をフルで流さなかったけど真の音楽番組だったと思ってる
41名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AAmSgDx802023/07/20(木) 21:56:26.36
ローリーは悪くないこのファンモドキがキモすぎただけ
42名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Hju54a++02023/07/20(木) 21:56:39.23
アーティストはどこに感情の地雷があるかわからんから許してやってくれ、エレカシ宮本もそんな感じだし
43名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zsHqcJyD02023/07/20(木) 21:56:48.85
ヲタ特有の奴だな。
44名無しさん@恐縮ですID:M/xOdoCa02023/07/20(木) 21:56:54.40
ローリーってギタークリニックの時でも生徒が生意気言うとイラついたりするよね。
45名無しさん@恐縮ですID:g2ij9xkN02023/07/20(木) 21:58:18.51
前に何かの番組で完コピは興味ないって言ってたな
でもニュアンス出すのはめっちゃ上手いよな
46名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kazq2t+Y02023/07/20(木) 21:58:19.54
西新宿のブート屋でジミーペイジと握手して貰った事がある。
47名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aLzjDe1M02023/07/20(木) 21:58:24.46
イエモンのギターの人はイギリス公演の現地のライブ評で「日本のジミー・ペイジ」と言われたらしい
54名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gbeFlAJk0
>>47
それフジロックじゃね
デイヴグロールだか誰だかがエマ見て言ったってやつ実際似てたしな
48名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VhqB7LDN02023/07/20(木) 21:58:40.83
これ、重度のツエッペリンオタ同士の喧嘩というかマウンティング合戦だな

俺のほうがジミー・ペイジをよく理解してんだ!!って争い

112名無しさん@恐縮ですID:64xDJA7J0
>>48
俺もそう思った
芸能人対素人と見るとROLLYの分が悪いけど
これネットでよくあるヲタ同士の争いやろ
115名無しさん@恐縮ですID:p4JK3dWN0
>>112
ジャパメタとか黎明期ロックの懐古趣味50代とか
苦手やなあ‥

いつまでデッドエンドのゆうちゃん、いうとんねんみたいな
自身でコッソリコレクションでもすんのならええけど
裸のラリーズやかてもうおらんで

49名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uov9KoQO02023/07/20(木) 21:59:19.16
キチガイみたいな絡み方だな
お薬でもやっってるのかと疑うわ
スポンサーリンク
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げいすぽ

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