50名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:msySKQJG02023/07/20(木) 11:42:47.59
たしかに香典返しなんて遺族に負担をかけるだけだし、あんなもんはなくていい。
51名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JEE8AmVs02023/07/20(木) 11:43:02.62
まずもらうなよ！
52名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6vgme7HR02023/07/20(木) 11:43:29.31
地域でヤバいエリアあるだろ、このやりとりの
53名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6qxy+Kvs02023/07/20(木) 11:43:41.21
まあ御返しもあれば「その後どうですか？」みたいなコミュニケーションにつながることもあって、孤立が問題となりがちな社会で有効な面もあるよね。普段からコミュニケーション足りてる人には、邪魔と感じる面もあるとは思う
54名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:j2BWY4bo02023/07/20(木) 11:43:56.38
お引っ越しのお祝い返しは微笑みにして届けます。
55名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vxNfLmvh02023/07/20(木) 11:43:56.94
返礼してくるなんて、お祝いする側のお祝いしたいという気持ちを無にする最低の行為だと思う
56名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wWJWnrd/02023/07/20(木) 11:44:36.19
やめたいならやめろ
周りを見てとか言ってるから駄目なんだよ(´・ω・`)
周りを見てとか言ってるから駄目なんだよ(´・ω・`)
57名無しさん＠恐縮です2023/07/20(木) 11:45:03.93
バレンタインデーとか馬鹿な事やってるのは
世界でも日本だけらしいね
いかに日本人が企業やメディアに洗脳されやすい民族かが分かる
チョンポップにはまる日本人女が多いもまさにこれ
世界でも日本だけらしいね
いかに日本人が企業やメディアに洗脳されやすい民族かが分かる
チョンポップにはまる日本人女が多いもまさにこれ
59名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:EiJq1P4w02023/07/20(木) 11:45:14.69
友達ならお互いに無しでって言えるけど、
目上の親戚なんか返さなかったらドえらいことに
目上の親戚なんか返さなかったらドえらいことに
60名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:omTLJpRr02023/07/20(木) 11:49:14.62
足しにしてもらうためにあげたのに高額のぼったくりカタログギフトとか送られてくるとまあ複雑な気分ではあるよな
61名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:J0E+5J0k02023/07/20(木) 11:50:30.03
正直贈る方もいやいやなんよ
返礼品届いてモヤモヤが少し晴れるのはあるんよ
返礼品届いてモヤモヤが少し晴れるのはあるんよ
62名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7qP6IbEQ02023/07/20(木) 11:53:36.48
取引先の式典の招待状にお祝い金等は不要的なこと書かれてたけど念のため祝儀袋に万札包んで持ってった
受付で断られるかなと思いつつ一応祝儀出したらすんなり受け取られて
あっぶねーと思ったわ
受付で断られるかなと思いつつ一応祝儀出したらすんなり受け取られて
あっぶねーと思ったわ
63名無しID:G7zSP+Lo02023/07/20(木) 11:55:31.84
私おばさんだけど中元歳暮年賀状全部やめた
あとは出産やお見舞いの内祝いが滅びればヨシ
三人連名のプレゼントにそれぞれ贈ったりマジでキツいんよ
産後や病後なんだから
あとは出産やお見舞いの内祝いが滅びればヨシ
三人連名のプレゼントにそれぞれ贈ったりマジでキツいんよ
産後や病後なんだから
64名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ezYRZOjq02023/07/20(木) 11:57:54.32
半額返すんなら初めから半額入れたほうが安上がりだしいいわ
65名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ezYRZOjq02023/07/20(木) 11:58:21.68
香典返しとかもいらんもんばっかだし
66名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cm7HLk4y02023/07/20(木) 11:58:58.52
返すのが嫌ならもらうのを断ればいいだけでは？
「お気持ちだけ頂いておきます」とかなんとか言って
「お気持ちだけ頂いておきます」とかなんとか言って
67名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+gyUTuD002023/07/20(木) 11:59:38.31
底辺が発狂していて草
68名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NWrZrXGW02023/07/20(木) 12:00:27.52
ギフト屋の陰謀でしかない
行きと返しで両方儲かる
行きと返しで両方儲かる
69名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UHBKplOs02023/07/20(木) 12:03:22.19
自給自足の村社会は村のしきたりに
従わないと
村に住めないようにしてやる
これを恐れて周りの顔色を伺う
これが陰湿同調圧力強迫観念
従わないと
村に住めないようにしてやる
これを恐れて周りの顔色を伺う
これが陰湿同調圧力強迫観念
70名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MRviUyeO02023/07/20(木) 12:04:20.03
お祝い返しが無いとかって文句垂れたり嫌み言うのは女が京都人くらいのもんやろ
71名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bgUdUQ+T02023/07/20(木) 12:04:36.83
こんなの関係性によるだろ
73名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:J8mviiRO02023/07/20(木) 12:05:17.30
久々にまともな正論だな
74名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wvNdftNw02023/07/20(木) 12:06:47.50
お返しする手間とかを考えると
お祝いとか本当もらいたくないわ
いつもありがた迷惑だと思いつつ拒絶するのも嫌だから受け取っているが
お祝いとか本当もらいたくないわ
いつもありがた迷惑だと思いつつ拒絶するのも嫌だから受け取っているが
75名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:w/qnUN5r02023/07/20(木) 12:07:38.55
「出産祝いは要りません」と言えば済むこと
76名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aCFpNqGy02023/07/20(木) 12:09:17.21
渡す時に内祝い不要って言って渡しているわ
78名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ok78DN0802023/07/20(木) 12:10:42.73
結局のところもらってばかりだと気が重いという自分の心理的負担を軽減する要素もあるからなあ
79名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:epAazUMT02023/07/20(木) 12:11:22.69
お前らは永遠に続けそう
86名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lUVqOrIV0
>>79
団塊ジュニア世代がいなくなれば、消えそうな文化だけどな
うるさく言うの、もうその辺まででしょ
団塊ジュニア世代がいなくなれば、消えそうな文化だけどな
うるさく言うの、もうその辺まででしょ
100名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FlZqEqpG0
>>86
内祝い本当に要らないから子供の支度で使い切って
と言ってるけど若い世代からも内祝いくるよ
あげっぱなしがいいと何度も言っているんだが
内祝い本当に要らないから子供の支度で使い切って
と言ってるけど若い世代からも内祝いくるよ
あげっぱなしがいいと何度も言っているんだが
104名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bh9unIaZ0
>>100
親が「そんなわけにはいかない！内祝いしなさい」って言ってくるだろうね
出産なら相手の親も言ってくる
親が「そんなわけにはいかない！内祝いしなさい」って言ってくるだろうね
出産なら相手の親も言ってくる
105名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Vh8CBYmB0
>>100
ちょっとしたものでも返しておくと本人たちも安心なんだろうね
無視したわけではないってことで
内祝いカタログ楽しく選んでいる人もいるし人それぞれ
ちょっとしたものでも返しておくと本人たちも安心なんだろうね
無視したわけではないってことで
内祝いカタログ楽しく選んでいる人もいるし人それぞれ
お返し嫌だって書き込んでイイネたくさんもらうくらいなら
お祝いいりません、私もしませんって言っておけばいいのにと思う
80名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iI8/BNN/02023/07/20(木) 12:11:51.10
波風を立てないよう細やかな人間関係を強要される。
結局いまだに江戸時代なのよ、日本は。
81名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7mR+Nmxe02023/07/20(木) 12:12:55.26
そうやって金が回るんだよ
そのくせ昔と比べて国が貧しくなったと嘆くくせに
そのくせ昔と比べて国が貧しくなったと嘆くくせに
82名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FyKgPAy102023/07/20(木) 12:12:57.28
お祝い貰うだけ貰ってなw
まずそこ断れよ
まずそこ断れよ
83名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OZrshtM402023/07/20(木) 12:12:58.69
非常識扱いされるだけじゃ無く、老人は一生恨み言を言うからね
金の恨みって根に持つからね
金の恨みって根に持つからね
84名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6NJCwn7702023/07/20(木) 12:13:09.90
測ってるし、測られてるんだよな
85名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ch8Jtjq602023/07/20(木) 12:14:12.31
こう言ってるヤツほど、自分がお祝いを贈ったときに何もなければ文句言うw
87名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:r/LIdnPW02023/07/20(木) 12:16:28.62
さすがひろいき
89名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dpoLRBlu02023/07/20(木) 12:16:54.69
とりあえず今は礼節文化のシステム上
「祝いもらう→お返しする」
このシステムが一般化されてるから
「お返ししたくない」ならその根本の
「御祝い辞退」で
すべて断るのがベストの選択じゃないかな
「祝いもらう→お返しする」
このシステムが一般化されてるから
「お返ししたくない」ならその根本の
「御祝い辞退」で
すべて断るのがベストの選択じゃないかな
「御祝いをもらって返さない」のは
非常識とか礼儀知らずと言われかねないけど
「御祝い辞退」なら
誰も損しない、誰も傷つかない
90名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:j6nRfP6Z02023/07/20(木) 12:17:03.97
お祝い返しもらうよりも有効に全部使ってもらえるほうが嬉しい
91名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:g4B7skxP02023/07/20(木) 12:18:33.54
そんなに面倒くさいって言ってるなら友達付き合いとか親戚付き合いをスパってやめればいいじゃん
ボッチなら一切しなくて楽だぞ
俺は嫌だけど
ボッチなら一切しなくて楽だぞ
俺は嫌だけど
92名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RViXlnx+02023/07/20(木) 12:21:09.27
まるでジャニーズの件に意見してるみたいやん
93名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dpoLRBlu02023/07/20(木) 12:21:18.22
このニュース？で面白いなぁと思うのは
「返礼不要」とはいうものの
御祝いを贈った側が「返礼不要でけっこうです」と言ってるんじゃなくて
貰った側が言ってる点だな
不思議な世の中になったもんだ
「返礼不要」とはいうものの
御祝いを贈った側が「返礼不要でけっこうです」と言ってるんじゃなくて
貰った側が言ってる点だな
不思議な世の中になったもんだ
95名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wrDoohE302023/07/20(木) 12:22:08.38
まずお祝い断れ
もらうだけ貰って半返しメンドクセっていい出す
都合良すぎ
もらうだけ貰って半返しメンドクセっていい出す
都合良すぎ
送る方はやめにくい
私お祝いとかいらないからって言っとけ
97名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iI8/BNN/02023/07/20(木) 12:23:21.12
いいことも悪いことも過去から続いてる慣習は絶対正義であり強要される。
それが本当に必要なのかや合理的かどうかなんて精査しない。
「今まで」が正しく「変化」を異様に恐れる。
それが本当に必要なのかや合理的かどうかなんて精査しない。
「今まで」が正しく「変化」を異様に恐れる。
結局日本人は「型」の奴隷なのさ。
99名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:v4dx+JyB02023/07/20(木) 12:26:02.72
芸能界の差し入れとかもやめろよ
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I highly advise steer clear of this platform. The experience I had with it has been nothing but dismay along with concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or alternatively, seek out a more reputable site to meet your needs.
I urge you steer clear of this platform. My own encounter with it has been nothing but disappointment as well as doubts about scamming practices. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, find a trustworthy site to meet your needs.
I highly advise steer clear of this site. The experience I had with it was purely frustration along with suspicion of fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or alternatively, find an honest platform to meet your needs.
I highly advise to avoid this site. My own encounter with it has been only disappointment along with concerns regarding deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, seek out a more reputable service to fulfill your requirements.
I strongly recommend to avoid this site. The experience I had with it was purely dismay and suspicion of deceptive behavior. Proceed with extreme caution, or even better, look for an honest platform to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you stay away from this site. My own encounter with it has been purely disappointment along with doubts about deceptive behavior. Be extremely cautious, or alternatively, look for an honest service to fulfill your requirements.
I urge you to avoid this platform. The experience I had with it was nothing but disappointment as well as doubts about fraudulent activities. Proceed with extreme caution, or alternatively, look for a trustworthy service to meet your needs.
I highly advise stay away from this site. My own encounter with it has been purely dismay along with doubts about fraudulent activities. Exercise extreme caution, or even better, look for a trustworthy site for your needs.
I strongly recommend to avoid this site. My own encounter with it was purely disappointment along with concerns regarding fraudulent activities. Be extremely cautious, or even better, find a trustworthy service to fulfill your requirements.