250名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9ihfgQ5a02023/07/16(日) 19:21:30.46
IKKOはビミョーだな、プロデュースした化粧品まで出してるしな
マツコやミッツのオネエでもないしりゅうちぇる路線でもないし
マツコやミッツのオネエでもないしりゅうちぇる路線でもないし
256名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pg/VS0nz0
>>250
IKKOさんをして苦しんでた話もあるわけでなんとも
技術も信用も勝ち取ってた時代にやで
IKKOさんをして苦しんでた話もあるわけでなんとも
技術も信用も勝ち取ってた時代にやで
251名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Lxggm/p102023/07/16(日) 19:22:23.36
やっぱり頭いいな
誹謗中傷が!と棍棒に飛びつく短慮な連中とは違う
誹謗中傷が!と棍棒に飛びつく短慮な連中とは違う
252名無しさん@恐縮ですID:E7NLjtpZ02023/07/16(日) 19:24:48.99
浜崎あゆみさんなんてラベル分け辞めろとか言い出したからなwレッテル貼りという意味か、選民意識から来たレベル分けなのか分からないが、最後に笑わせてくれる浜さん。
253名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TcWd5ge802023/07/16(日) 19:25:26.39
LGBTの人も一枚岩じゃないだろう
子供のうちからチンコがついてることを嫌悪して切り落とした元男の女性と
女を孕ませるまでチンコを愛用してぶら下げ続けたryuchellとは別物だし
LGBTの人すら気持ちが分かってやれないのに、ノーマルの人間が分かる訳ないんだよ
子供のうちからチンコがついてることを嫌悪して切り落とした元男の女性と
女を孕ませるまでチンコを愛用してぶら下げ続けたryuchellとは別物だし
LGBTの人すら気持ちが分かってやれないのに、ノーマルの人間が分かる訳ないんだよ
257名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1Uy34DPj0
>>253
そこは想像力じゃね?
本人と全く同じ苦しみ痛みを感じることは不可能だが思いを馳せることは出来る
とりあえず自分がやられたら嫌なことはしないだけでも世の中はもっと優しくなる
そこは想像力じゃね?
本人と全く同じ苦しみ痛みを感じることは不可能だが思いを馳せることは出来る
とりあえず自分がやられたら嫌なことはしないだけでも世の中はもっと優しくなる
262名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TcWd5ge80
>>257
医者や看護師が学生時代に聞かされた言葉やな
ま、綺麗事やねw
医者や看護師が学生時代に聞かされた言葉やな
ま、綺麗事やねw
265名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1Uy34DPj0
>>262
へーそうなん?
綺麗事じゃないだろ
自分がやられたら嫌なことはしないなんて子どもでも色んなことを経験しながら学ぶものだ
そんな子どもでも考えることを実践できない人間が多いってだけ
へーそうなん?
綺麗事じゃないだろ
自分がやられたら嫌なことはしないなんて子どもでも色んなことを経験しながら学ぶものだ
そんな子どもでも考えることを実践できない人間が多いってだけ
268名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TcWd5ge80
>>265
え、じゃあチンコついて女とセックスして
気持ちよく射精して親になりました
だけど自分は女だったので離婚します
え、じゃあチンコついて女とセックスして
気持ちよく射精して親になりました
だけど自分は女だったので離婚します
この気持ちを理解できるんだ偉いねーw
274名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pg/VS0nz0
>>268
あーリュウチェルをどういう誹謗ぶつけとったのか想像つかんかったが
こういう類か
あーリュウチェルをどういう誹謗ぶつけとったのか想像つかんかったが
こういう類か
275名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1Uy34DPj0
>>268
理解はできるな
女しか愛しちゃいけない
男しか愛しちゃいけないなんて決められたもんじゃないだろ
愛だの恋だのは理屈じゃない世界だしな
世の中から男はこうあるべし女はこうあるべしと植え付けられてそれに適応しようと頑張ったけれどやはり限界が来てもっと自分に正直にいようとなっただけだろ
そこには受け入れて貰えない不安や恐怖もあったと思うがペコはそれを理解してあの夫婦は自分達の家族の在り方を築いていこうとしてたんだろ
理解はできるな
女しか愛しちゃいけない
男しか愛しちゃいけないなんて決められたもんじゃないだろ
愛だの恋だのは理屈じゃない世界だしな
世の中から男はこうあるべし女はこうあるべしと植え付けられてそれに適応しようと頑張ったけれどやはり限界が来てもっと自分に正直にいようとなっただけだろ
そこには受け入れて貰えない不安や恐怖もあったと思うがペコはそれを理解してあの夫婦は自分達の家族の在り方を築いていこうとしてたんだろ
278名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TcWd5ge80
>>275
だから、自分は男も女も愛せるって自認すりゃ良かっただけの話だよな
女に欲情できる体なのに、女だと自認して女ホルモン打ったからおかしくなった
だから、自分は男も女も愛せるって自認すりゃ良かっただけの話だよな
女に欲情できる体なのに、女だと自認して女ホルモン打ったからおかしくなった
279名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WbysH4DP0
>>278
ほぼゲイのバイだったのにT女性の象徴のように祭り上げられて
後に引けなくなってしまったのかな
ピーターみたいにどっちの服装でもイケるのを目指せればよかったんだろうけど
あの人は売りがそれだけじゃないからなぁ
ペコちゃんのおまけでデビューした身だし焦ってたのもあるのかな
芸能界以外に道はなかったのかな
ほぼゲイのバイだったのにT女性の象徴のように祭り上げられて
後に引けなくなってしまったのかな
ピーターみたいにどっちの服装でもイケるのを目指せればよかったんだろうけど
あの人は売りがそれだけじゃないからなぁ
ペコちゃんのおまけでデビューした身だし焦ってたのもあるのかな
芸能界以外に道はなかったのかな
280名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1Uy34DPj0
>>278
相手がペコだから愛せたんだろ
初めて好きになった女の子と言ってたじゃないか
ペコを好きになったことは自分にとっても驚きだったろうし夫として生きていくことが周りも喜ばせ歓迎される道だと感じたんだろ
自分もそのとき望んだことではあっても時と共に限界を感じることは大いにありうる
人間なんて気持ちの葛藤や変化があって当たり前なんだよ
男女の恋愛だってそれは同じだ
相手がペコだから愛せたんだろ
初めて好きになった女の子と言ってたじゃないか
ペコを好きになったことは自分にとっても驚きだったろうし夫として生きていくことが周りも喜ばせ歓迎される道だと感じたんだろ
自分もそのとき望んだことではあっても時と共に限界を感じることは大いにありうる
人間なんて気持ちの葛藤や変化があって当たり前なんだよ
男女の恋愛だってそれは同じだ
287名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TcWd5ge80
>>280
そうそう、限界を感じて現状を変えようと極端な選択をしたわけだよな
子育て中の妻に女を感じずレスになる夫婦も珍しくないんだから、あと数年様子見りゃまた夫婦でセックスできたかもしれんのに
そうそう、限界を感じて現状を変えようと極端な選択をしたわけだよな
子育て中の妻に女を感じずレスになる夫婦も珍しくないんだから、あと数年様子見りゃまた夫婦でセックスできたかもしれんのに
290名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UsKQnhJG0
>>278
女で欲情しなきゃ子供は作れんもんな
バイセクシャルの自分を受け入れればよかったのにな
女で欲情しなきゃ子供は作れんもんな
バイセクシャルの自分を受け入れればよかったのにな
258名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+Q1Rll1V02023/07/16(日) 19:29:33.22
性的マイノリティーでもTはかなり特殊だとおもうわ
心身への負担は想像できん
心身への負担は想像できん
260名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RiwkMzWE02023/07/16(日) 19:32:37.58
こいつの死を利用して誹謗中傷する
奴ガーやって自分の不満をぶちまけ
自己満してる連中こそ一番タチ悪い
奴ガーやって自分の不満をぶちまけ
自己満してる連中こそ一番タチ悪い
261名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GXX4o6Lh02023/07/16(日) 19:33:09.03
りゅうちぇるは沖縄だからヒゲも体毛も濃いから
余計にコンプレックスが強かったんだろうなあ
ホルモン剤で女性っぽい体になるのと引き換えに
脳とか体の異常に耐えないといけなかった
余計にコンプレックスが強かったんだろうなあ
ホルモン剤で女性っぽい体になるのと引き換えに
脳とか体の異常に耐えないといけなかった
263名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hpnCvRll02023/07/16(日) 19:35:36.98
誹謗に関しては長い間されてるからね。
どうして今回引きがねになったのかの説明が難しい。ホルモンに関しては最近ということで少しは信憑性があるような
どうして今回引きがねになったのかの説明が難しい。ホルモンに関しては最近ということで少しは信憑性があるような
264名無しさん@恐縮ですID:axcBXUJb02023/07/16(日) 19:36:59.75
KABA.ちゃんもまだまだ油断できないよ
支えてくれる人いるといいけど
支えてくれる人いるといいけど
266名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LfMTe6R302023/07/16(日) 19:39:20.85
おすぎとピーコやピーター、カルーセル麻紀とかカバちゃんもそうだけど長い時間掛けて世間と折り合いつけて居場所作ってきた人らがいて、世間に受け入れられてたし俺も理解はできないが受け入れてた
だけどポリコレ輸入していっちょかみ連中がうじゃうじゃ湧いて出てめちゃくちゃな暴論振りかざしてそこの畑めちゃくちゃに荒らしたんだよな
そして今も火に油を注いでる自覚もなく名言連発してる
だけどポリコレ輸入していっちょかみ連中がうじゃうじゃ湧いて出てめちゃくちゃな暴論振りかざしてそこの畑めちゃくちゃに荒らしたんだよな
そして今も火に油を注いでる自覚もなく名言連発してる
267名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xjQZ7AGk02023/07/16(日) 19:39:23.21
TVで、“りゅうちぇる” を強要される事に相当悩んでたみたいだぞ 😅
TV業界がりゅうちぇるを殺した一因である事は間違い無い様だ w🤔
TV業界がりゅうちぇるを殺した一因である事は間違い無い様だ w🤔
どうする?・・家康!
269名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BCiIUL2P02023/07/16(日) 19:44:01.92
誹謗中傷が原因で自殺って決めつけるのって、ryuchellを誹謗中傷してるのでは。
270名無しさん@恐縮ですID:osvVflis02023/07/16(日) 19:44:44.10
ゲンキングは大丈夫だったのかね?
最近名前も聞かないけど
最近名前も聞かないけど
277名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WbysH4DP0
>>270
ゲンキングは性転換した
そして婚約破棄を公言したのだがその相手が水戸黄門に出てた有名俳優の息子だった
その時以来話題を訊いていない
ゲンキングは性転換した
そして婚約破棄を公言したのだがその相手が水戸黄門に出てた有名俳優の息子だった
その時以来話題を訊いていない
288名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ti8EcaTI0
>>277
ヤホーで最近のだいぶ変身した画像を見たけどそもそもブレークしたか微妙なので元を覚えてなかった
ヤホーで最近のだいぶ変身した画像を見たけどそもそもブレークしたか微妙なので元を覚えてなかった
271名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LfMTe6R302023/07/16(日) 19:45:49.93
誹謗中傷は論外だけどポリコレ振りかざしてる連中と折り合いつけるのは俺は無理だわ一生理解はできません
272名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aOmAVRRk02023/07/16(日) 19:47:21.53
結局ホルモンバランス崩壊で精神崩壊したね
281名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3+exQXMx02023/07/16(日) 20:02:30.44
KABA.ちゃん乗り越えられたんか?
282名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cRn2A+Oj02023/07/16(日) 20:02:43.47
生涯あんなちょっとしか出ないホルモンだが作用は強烈過ぎる
一度バランスが乱れたら自分でとても制御できるものじゃないからなあ
今まで好きだったものも同じように見れなくなるし
色んなものの価値観が急激に変わったりして
でもそれに気がつけなかったりする
人為的に入れたらきついだろうな
一度バランスが乱れたら自分でとても制御できるものじゃないからなあ
今まで好きだったものも同じように見れなくなるし
色んなものの価値観が急激に変わったりして
でもそれに気がつけなかったりする
人為的に入れたらきついだろうな
283名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rhiisu9p02023/07/16(日) 20:03:20.75
カバドットちゃんになったの?
呼びにくくね?
呼びにくくね?
285名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3YyuvikO0
>>283
藤岡弘、と同じじゃね?
藤岡弘、と同じじゃね?
316名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jhXHLCXi0
>>285
名前に句読点つけるやつはもれなくセンスないダメ
名前に句読点つけるやつはもれなくセンスないダメ
284名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2BK6wt6Q02023/07/16(日) 20:04:18.66
心が女になりたいと願っても身体がそれを拒否する
結局チンポには勝てないということやね
結局チンポには勝てないということやね
286名無しさん@恐縮ですID:d0bYNBAL02023/07/16(日) 20:07:11.26
トランスの人って むしろ性別とか気にしすぎだろ
289名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4FYzo7Qz02023/07/16(日) 20:16:49.80
ホルモンバランスは恐ろしいよ。うちの母親はバランス崩して寝たきりになるとこだった。
294名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nLGdB81T02023/07/16(日) 20:27:36.22
さんまと絡まなければ死ぬこともなかったんじゃね?
ここまで売れてなかっただろうし
ここまで売れてなかっただろうし
296名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xEbt6uRq02023/07/16(日) 20:32:56.26
さんまはまともな事言ってるな
297名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UsKQnhJG02023/07/16(日) 20:34:44.87
テレビに出なけりゃ、メディアのおもちゃにもされずに女体化もせずに
ちょっとカマっぽい面白い父親くらいの存在で
普通に家族仲良く暮らしていったんだろうな
ちょっとカマっぽい面白い父親くらいの存在で
普通に家族仲良く暮らしていったんだろうな
299名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uR4dSg5L02023/07/16(日) 20:37:50.98
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