150名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7u0Md2qQ02023/07/16(日) 18:12:55.08
さんまもホルモン療法を気にかけてたのか
151名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JYf/owYF02023/07/16(日) 18:13:21.78
誹謗中傷くらいで死んでるならもっと前に死んでるだろうし、ホルモン関連だったら抗いようがなかったんだろう
死ぬべくして死んだんだろうが、本人は女になって死んだんだし少しはいいのかもよ
死ぬべくして死んだんだろうが、本人は女になって死んだんだし少しはいいのかもよ
160名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DBck/Kr70
>>151
誹謗中傷くらいでってよく言えるな
それで死んでる例があるのに
誹謗中傷くらいでってよく言えるな
それで死んでる例があるのに
210名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:co8mCUgF0
>>160
それが嫌なら、あの芸風で行かんやろ
それが嫌なら、あの芸風で行かんやろ
152名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZnaF/3/T02023/07/16(日) 18:13:55.03
こっちの問題は面倒だから報道も政治もスルーだろうな
154名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZxKnJNYB02023/07/16(日) 18:14:17.88
自分の生まれ持っての性を否定してる時点で精神不安定だろ
158名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dX1pIuYI0
>>154
君はもうちょっと勉強してきなさい
君はもうちょっと勉強してきなさい
155名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:t2RPCSvB02023/07/16(日) 18:14:56.09
さんまにしてはまともな反応
156名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NMzqOfgR02023/07/16(日) 18:16:06.32
うつ病も自分でコントロールできないから死ぬほど辛い
さんまレベルになると生き死には悟りの境地だろうね
知り合いの死も沢山見てきただろうし
あっぱれさんま大先生の時から子供大好きだからりゅうちぇるも子供みたいなもんだろう
さんまレベルになると生き死には悟りの境地だろうね
知り合いの死も沢山見てきただろうし
あっぱれさんま大先生の時から子供大好きだからりゅうちぇるも子供みたいなもんだろう
157名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UUiTPHox02023/07/16(日) 18:16:23.22
AV女優の危ない感じと似てるのかな
159名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:O6MBB+rd02023/07/16(日) 18:17:49.61
一番親身になった意見をまさかさんまから聞くとは思わなかった
このバランス力こそが芸能界のトップに居続ける所以なんだろうな
このバランス力こそが芸能界のトップに居続ける所以なんだろうな
162名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VruIL3di02023/07/16(日) 18:18:36.73
全て上手くいかないと思い込んじゃうからな
女性ホルモン投与のラインをもっと上げるべきだな
女性ホルモン投与のラインをもっと上げるべきだな
163名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iLbWqZAb02023/07/16(日) 18:18:38.89
さんまの言ってることも憶測よね？
そういう人が多いってだけで
いくら親しくても他人が語るすべてが憶測
直接的な誹謗中傷に心病む場合もあれば励ましのつもり言葉が逆にプレッシャーになることもあるだろう
そういう人が多いってだけで
いくら親しくても他人が語るすべてが憶測
直接的な誹謗中傷に心病む場合もあれば励ましのつもり言葉が逆にプレッシャーになることもあるだろう
176名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IdZCgtMW0
>>163
友人には最近ホルモンバランスが悪いって
深刻に悩みを相談してたって報道あるよ
友人には最近ホルモンバランスが悪いって
深刻に悩みを相談してたって報道あるよ
177名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:z4Rj0cbc0
>>163
カルーセル麻紀もKABAちゃんもそうだったから、憶測だろうけど真実に近いとは思う。
カルーセル麻紀もKABAちゃんもそうだったから、憶測だろうけど真実に近いとは思う。
184名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3YyuvikO0
>>163
ホルモンバランスの崩れでつらいと口にしてたって証言はある
誹謗中傷だけが原因と喚いてる連中は憶測
ホルモンバランスの崩れでつらいと口にしてたって証言はある
誹謗中傷だけが原因と喚いてる連中は憶測
185名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:d391Z8t10
>>184
誹謗中傷だけって言ってる奴はいないと思う
何としてでも誹謗中傷を原因にさせたくない連中はいるが
誹謗中傷だけって言ってる奴はいないと思う
何としてでも誹謗中傷を原因にさせたくない連中はいるが
188名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3YyuvikO0
>>185
何としてでも誹謗中傷のせいにしたい著名人が集ってきたのが最初だろ
何としてでも誹謗中傷のせいにしたい著名人が集ってきたのが最初だろ
189名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JuuBa7PV0
>>185
中川翔子とか芸能人達は誹謗中傷ガーって連呼してるぞ
中川翔子とか芸能人達は誹謗中傷ガーって連呼してるぞ
222名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ye86X6BW0
>>163
さんまはさんまで「お前誰やねん、結婚祝い金返せ」みたいなこと言って笑い取ってたからあまり誹謗中傷寄りにしたくないのかも。
とはいえ番組では久々にやろうかーって仲良く「建築関係トントントン」してたけどもw
さんまはさんまで「お前誰やねん、結婚祝い金返せ」みたいなこと言って笑い取ってたからあまり誹謗中傷寄りにしたくないのかも。
とはいえ番組では久々にやろうかーって仲良く「建築関係トントントン」してたけどもw
229名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JQ9H0+r30
>>222
確かに際どい発言だな
冗談なのわかるけど
「建築関係トントントン」懐かしいな
確かに際どい発言だな
冗談なのわかるけど
「建築関係トントントン」懐かしいな
165名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gbGkkOii02023/07/16(日) 18:19:37.42
誹謗中傷したい人多いな
ホルモンバランスがって言われたらなんかまずいことでもあるのか？
ホルモンバランスがって言われたらなんかまずいことでもあるのか？
168名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ot0S09ur02023/07/16(日) 18:20:41.34
心が女性だから体を薬漬けにしていいって理屈が分らない
バカだけど頭が良くなりたいから薬飲むのか？
バカだけど頭が良くなりたいから薬飲むのか？
169名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pg/VS0nz0
>>168
手段が用意されてしまっているから使ってしまうってのはあるやろね
芸能界でうまく行ってとりま金だけは持ってるし
手段が用意されてしまっているから使ってしまうってのはあるやろね
芸能界でうまく行ってとりま金だけは持ってるし
175名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:d391Z8t10
>>168
必要に迫られればそういうものに頼ることはあるんじゃね？
お前は同じ立場にいないんだから理解できないのは当然だ
それほど見た目に悩まない人は整形しようなんて思わないしな
必要に迫られればそういうものに頼ることはあるんじゃね？
お前は同じ立場にいないんだから理解できないのは当然だ
それほど見た目に悩まない人は整形しようなんて思わないしな
170名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mhUiceD402023/07/16(日) 18:21:50.38
やっぱり男の体に女のモンを入れるんは毒やねんな
171名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IdZCgtMW02023/07/16(日) 18:22:14.78
近くで見てた人はちゃんと
こういう核心にふれてる。
普段交流なかった芸能人ほど
いの一番に誹謗中傷のせいにして
自分の普段の鬱憤をはらしてる。
なんか人としての思慮の深さが
この件に関する発信で
それぞれよく現れたと思う
こういう核心にふれてる。
普段交流なかった芸能人ほど
いの一番に誹謗中傷のせいにして
自分の普段の鬱憤をはらしてる。
なんか人としての思慮の深さが
この件に関する発信で
それぞれよく現れたと思う
178名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:d391Z8t10
>>171
原因の一つとして考えられるのに全力で誹謗中傷を否定したいって人間って誹謗中傷してた人間だよな
原因の一つとして考えられるのに全力で誹謗中傷を否定したいって人間って誹謗中傷してた人間だよな
172名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:3rOaly1d02023/07/16(日) 18:23:09.62
後からなら幾らでも言えるやつ
174名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bA4wlJH102023/07/16(日) 18:24:01.97
りゅうちえるっておちんちんとω両方取ってたの？
179名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Cngw5yHt02023/07/16(日) 18:27:19.14
さんまはジャニー喜多川について何も言及してないのか？
たけしとはやっぱり違うんだな
たけしとはやっぱり違うんだな
183名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pg/VS0nz0
>>179
さんまは芸能界に長くいるからか
芸能人はまず事務所チェックするようなやつだしなあ
さんまは芸能界に長くいるからか
芸能人はまず事務所チェックするようなやつだしなあ
181名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PlSpoU7c02023/07/16(日) 18:28:27.72
KABA．ちゃんみたいに表に出てこないようにすればよかったのに
182名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Bh+vvlUh02023/07/16(日) 18:28:38.93
性転換しても本物の女にはなれない
チンコのない男になっただけだと
チンコのない男になっただけだと
そう考えて自殺する人もいるわけ
さんまはするどい
186名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ulmx5i/902023/07/16(日) 18:33:01.39
本人が言ってたとされるのはホルモンバランス、信頼してた人物に裏切られた、誹謗中傷
の3本立てだろ
の3本立てだろ
187名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZX2RGhvr02023/07/16(日) 18:34:27.68
1番は信じてた人に裏切られたって
ことっぽいけど
ことっぽいけど
190名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wrI/srVv02023/07/16(日) 18:35:56.21
耐え切ればスタンド使いに
191名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:h8/6nljy02023/07/16(日) 18:36:48.40
本人からしたら、「キモい」とか「死ね～」みたいなの問答無用の誹謗中傷と、「嫁さん子供に対して無責任じゃないのか？」みたいな異議とどっちがキツかったのかな？とは思うわ
198名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ulmx5i/90
>>191
誹謗中傷と生き方に対する批判だと批判の方が辛そうだよな
色々とツッコミどころの多い生き方してたし
誹謗中傷と生き方に対する批判だと批判の方が辛そうだよな
色々とツッコミどころの多い生き方してたし
211名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7BqLQ+uy0
>>191
いやどっちもでしょ
なんか根拠なく風俗行ってるとか浮気してたとかも言われてたらしいし
それに負けずにホルモン治療始めたものの本人も思ったよりキツくなったのかなと
いやどっちもでしょ
なんか根拠なく風俗行ってるとか浮気してたとかも言われてたらしいし
それに負けずにホルモン治療始めたものの本人も思ったよりキツくなったのかなと
192名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:88eDbJrf02023/07/16(日) 18:36:48.74
自然の摂理に反することをするにはそれ相応の覚悟がいるってことなのかなぁ
194名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:EhI8SRet02023/07/16(日) 18:39:16.70
金持ちだったわけだしSNSの貧乏暇人のコメントなんかで病むと思えん
195名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YF1ACpds02023/07/16(日) 18:40:08.34
番組見てたらりゅうちぇるが母親に
「育て方を間違えた」って言われた事が
一番ショックだったって話てたが
芸能村の皆さんは毒親の言葉の暴力より
ネットのあった事もない素人の方が彼を殺したって証明出来ますかぁー？
「育て方を間違えた」って言われた事が
一番ショックだったって話てたが
芸能村の皆さんは毒親の言葉の暴力より
ネットのあった事もない素人の方が彼を殺したって証明出来ますかぁー？
201名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VruIL3di0
>>195
あぁそんなこと言われてたんかメンタル壊れてる時にそれは堪えるわ
あぁそんなこと言われてたんかメンタル壊れてる時にそれは堪えるわ
304名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mhUiceD40
>>201
そのセリフは10代の頃に言われたものだしその後そのセリフの意図もきちんと理解して今では母親とも仲良かった
そのセリフは10代の頃に言われたものだしその後そのセリフの意図もきちんと理解して今では母親とも仲良かった
212名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7BqLQ+uy0
>>195
切り取り良くないよ
切り取り良くないよ
197名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iAW0hwN702023/07/16(日) 18:41:56.13
0か100で考えるから良くないんじゃない？
ホルモンもあるだろう、誹謗中傷もあるだろう、あとは家族・交友関係とか仕事・金銭。
色々と複合的に絡み合っての自殺だと思うよ。
ホルモンもあるだろう、誹謗中傷もあるだろう、あとは家族・交友関係とか仕事・金銭。
色々と複合的に絡み合っての自殺だと思うよ。
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