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【サンモニ】松尾貴史 トイレの女装犯罪を「悪意を持ったデマ」と表現し警鐘 ネットは違和感「起きてる」反論

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200名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RR3mXdCK02023/07/16(日) 18:45:16.89
女装などしなくても女子トイレ使って良いってことかコレ?
203名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hjGYQKum02023/07/16(日) 18:46:33.65
最高裁判事は男ばかりだから女性蔑視判決が出たとフェミは抗議すべき
204名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hjGYQKum02023/07/16(日) 18:46:43.20
最高裁判事は男ばかりだから女性蔑視判決が出たとフェミは抗議すべき
207名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R/7NkneH02023/07/16(日) 18:48:03.27
デマとは?
女性が安心してトイレを使えないなら当然考えるべき事例だろ
210名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tGmcMst302023/07/16(日) 18:48:55.41
こいつFラン卒のアホのくせになんでかしこぶってコメンテーターなんかやってんの?
大阪芸大ってアホが行くとこだぞ
211名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/0sy3hw102023/07/16(日) 18:49:00.61
マイノリティー性善説
212名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Nb0MrfXY02023/07/16(日) 18:50:04.14
この方みたいにちゃんと性同一性障害の診断がされてる人の話であって、性同一性障害って診断されてない人が同じことしたら問答無用で捕まりますよ
あと、性同一性障害の医者の診断は簡単にはでません
216名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wFI5OeA30
>>212
性同一性障害者のうち30%は一回の診察で診断出たってのはデマだったん?
221名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Nb0MrfXY0
>>216
第三者機関の判断もまじえるから医者のみではそもそもでないよ
218名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CAEyk3D60
>>212
医師も問診を行ってその回答を機械的にするだけだから、テストのようなものだよ
事前に勉強していけば診断は降りる
220名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HAZvKjd90
>>212
どうやって見分けるの?
捕まえてから名誉毀損にならないの?
213名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pg/VS0nz02023/07/16(日) 18:50:08.90
松尾のほうが「悪意を持ったデマ」というデマだよね
それが悪意をもってなされたか、利己的な意思によってなされたかの問題にすぎない
これからも番組に出られるって言うならそういうことだろう
214名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hjGYQKum02023/07/16(日) 18:51:47.92
この原告はキャリアかどうかは知らないが
天下りとかできないだろうな
(天下り先のフロアに男女トイレに食わて共用トイレ作る他ないだろう)
215名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Hwoi6ZDY02023/07/16(日) 18:52:40.57
先生方の御説はごもっとも
トイレの増設費用は1,000憶じゃ足りないんで
先生お一人1憶ほど寄付して下さいと

言ってみれ クスクス

219名無しさん@恐縮ですID:z089c8IT02023/07/16(日) 18:54:35.83
盗撮被害者の前で同じ事言ってみろ
お前の被害は妄想とな
222名無しさん@恐縮ですID:t6Csu7tn02023/07/16(日) 18:57:56.41
はいパヨちん
223名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SRF9Rgaw02023/07/16(日) 18:57:56.43
コレコレで有名な女装のやつみたけど
227名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vSK/yklM02023/07/16(日) 19:00:34.97
マックミングローブとか女装家とか言ってるけどどっちに入ってるの?
262名無しさん@恐縮ですID:47QVecXX0
>>227
男じゃない?
ミッツは性自認男だから
まぁ、気を遣って多目的とか使ってるかもしれんが
278名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mdSwyRj80
>>227
wikiより

5歳の時に自分が同性愛者であることに気付く。伯父の和夫もなんとなくそれに気付いており、後に「この道を極めるだろうという感じがした」と語っている。

『女装家』という言葉を作った人物。理由はいわゆるニューハーフのように美容整形手術(豊胸、性転換など)を行わず、女性の格好をして生計を立てていることから「ちょっと上から目線でつけた」とのこと。

女装に対して「不条理な状態」と考えており「おっさんが女装して『綺麗でしょ?』なんて聞くのは逆ギレもいいとこ。居直り強盗と同じ。」「女みたいって言われるより『ブス!』って言われる方が反骨精神でテンションがあがる」「女装家は女性に見えたら終わり。だから私は身長が高いことに感謝している。」と語っている。ただし、時間やお金をかなりかけての大掛かりなショーでの女装では「綺麗」と言われることは嬉しいという。どちらかと言えば、おかまやニューハーフよりもドラァグクイーンの考え方に近い心構えを持っている。

284名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oUeCXZYV0
>>227
イギリス留学中に目覚めたとか言ってた気がするから男が好きな人でしょ
テレビでキャラの為の発言だったら知らんけど
228名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7Zl5dYXH02023/07/16(日) 19:00:38.47
トランス女子様のおかげで、女が安全に女便所に入れなくなってる現状。
229名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Qi0FTilA02023/07/16(日) 19:00:52.31
まだいたのかキッチュ
232名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7Zl5dYXH02023/07/16(日) 19:03:30.23
女便所で女が襲われる可能性が高いから
女はひとりでは便所に行くなと。
289名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9XHQJ2KY0
>>232
ていうか、普通に音聞かれんの嫌なんだけど
233名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qwJ6kMa702023/07/16(日) 19:03:36.88
性犯罪のために女装するやつとLGBTは関係ないからな
ネットがアホなのが問題
241名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ds7tlWwz0
>>233
性転換手術受けてないけどどうしても女子トイレに入りたいのって一部の我儘ために
犯罪者が入り込みやすい環境を整えてしまって、犯罪が増えたら誰が責任取るのかって話だな
結局泣きを見るのは被害者の女
女が反対するのは当然だろう
242名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qwJ6kMa70
>>241

この判決個人特定されてる上で組織として女性として扱うことを決めたなら差別すんな
ってだけで犯罪者が入り込みやすい環境なんて全然関係ないぞ
249名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ds7tlWwz0
>>242
この松尾がしてるのは判決の話じゃないでしょ?もはやトランスジェンダーが女子トイレ使う前提で一般化して語ってるようにしか見えないが
270名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BK/gzS7g0
>>233
Tかどうかを判別する方法ないしTだけが正しく利用出来る方法(虚偽の利用不可)が提示されれば大多数は納得するって言われてるのに誰も出さないじゃない
282名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qVNUib570
>>270
そんなガイドライン的なものを作成するのは事実上不可能だから個別に判断するしかないんじゃね?ってのは最高裁も認めてる
295名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BK/gzS7g0
>>282
それじゃあ後手に回るんよ。問題が起こってからしか動けないんじゃ意味がない
Tと言えば許されると思ってる馬鹿が一定数いるからこその今の騒ぎなんよ…
302名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qVNUib570
>>295
現状ではむしろ自認だけで勝手に女子トイレを利用するなんてのはこれまで通り認めまへんという話よこれ
323名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BK/gzS7g0
>>302
それを読み取れない人がいるからってことよ
メディア等の『Tの女子トイレ使用制限は違憲』みたいな飛ばしを鵜呑みにするやつ、一部だけ読んで自分に都合のいい解釈するやつ
そいつ等がどんな処罰を受けようが知ったことではないけどそいつ等が捕まる=被害者が出てるんだから
326名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NWiEcGlQ0
>>323
それはその通りだね
ざっと見た感じちゃんと解説してるメディアは殆どなくてもそういうミスリードを誘う見出しや記事ばかり
240名無しさん@恐縮ですID:chyQy85x02023/07/16(日) 19:06:25.94
犯罪の被害者が出る前に何とか防ごうとしているのにな
こういう想像力に欠ける人はコメントしないでほしい
243名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pg/VS0nz02023/07/16(日) 19:07:32.80
男子トイレ女子トイレという枠組みを変えてしまうだけで
どうにかなるわな
名前が悪じゃったんだろう
245名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IRVM62M+02023/07/16(日) 19:08:36.81
女装っていうか
女装する必要すらなくなるって話なんだが

どう見ても男でも
堂々と女子トイレ,女子更衣室,女湯に入れるようになる

それを注意したり咎めたらレイシスト()ww

250名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qVNUib570
>>245
最高裁はむしろそういう自認だけじゃ話にならんと言ってるんだが
252名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2gKG3gLq0
>>250
君さあ、徹底的に宇賀の補足無かったことにするね
257名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qVNUib570
>>252
宇賀の補足はもちろん読んだが別に自認が最優先だなんてことは全く言ってないぞ

実際に女性として生活しているトランスジェンダーについて理解を深めることも重要であるという話はしてるけど

253名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IRVM62M+0
>>250
ひとつひとつどんどん突破されていっていずれそうなる
247名無しさん@恐縮ですID:w7xZLoYj02023/07/16(日) 19:10:48.61
https://www.jcp-osaka.jp/osaka_now/23078

共産党と仲良し松尾貴史
女装してトイレで盗撮したりサドル射精した奴も共産党だったね

268名無しさん@恐縮ですID:n7mfEKTC0
>>247
なんで社会的に成功して金持ってる奴が共産党に行くのかがわからん
俺は庶民の味方だ、崇めろって言いたいの?
308名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sMvCliuz0
>>268
ロシア革命のときには貴族や富裕層が「自分ら教養のある人間が愚かな貧民を導いてやらなきゃ」って活動してソ連になったし
貧乏なバカを助けてやってるつもりなんじゃね
248名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wxU0ZZe/02023/07/16(日) 19:11:26.77
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