1鉄チーズ烏 ★ID:X2ksqJpd92023/07/16(日) 16:41:49.82
2023年7月16日 16:34
東スポWEB
https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/articles/-/269797?page=1
https://tokyo-sports.ismcdn.jp/mwimgs/0/1/400w/img_018640a535cbfd26bb984104c6ba4864237985.jpg
東スポWEB
https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/articles/-/269797?page=1
https://tokyo-sports.ismcdn.jp/mwimgs/0/1/400w/img_018640a535cbfd26bb984104c6ba4864237985.jpg
ソフトバンクが１６日の首位・オリックス戦（ペイペイ）に１―２で敗戦。泥沼の８連敗となり、ゲーム差も４・５に広げられた。
１点を争う試合は、延長１０回に松本裕がセデーニョに一発を浴びて黒星を喫した。試合後の藤本監督は８回二死満塁に迎えたチャンスでの球審の判定について言及した。
相手先発・宮城に対して、打者・近藤が３ボール１ストライクからの外角直球を見送り、確信して一塁へ向かって歩いたが…。球審の判定はストライク。球場がザワつく中、近藤がフルカウントから空振り三振に倒れて勝ち越しの絶好機を逃した。
「一番大事なところだからね。ストライク、ボールはこちらがクレームつけられないわけだから。やる側はしっかり反省してもらいたい。反省というか、ストライクだったらこっちが謝りますよ。完全なボールですから」。
結果的に勝敗を左右する大きな１球となった。「審判も一生懸命やってるんでしょうけど。人間、ミスは付き物かもしれないけど…」と理解を示しつつも「しっかり見てもらいたい。１球のあれ（判定）で流れが変わってしまったわけですからね。以上です」と語気を強めて締めくくった。
https://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/articles/-/269797?page=1
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30名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:BZ2B+HlD0
>>1
ジャッジ前に近藤がセルフジャッジしたからだろ
ジャッジ前に近藤がセルフジャッジしたからだろ
あんなん嫌われるわ
49名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aaNZC4Zj0
>>1
その打席でその球の前に2球もストライクをボールと判定されてるしな…
機械判定にしてほしいな
こんなくだらない揉め事をいつまでも続けたくない
野球見ようという気持ちが無くなるわ
その打席でその球の前に2球もストライクをボールと判定されてるしな…
機械判定にしてほしいな
こんなくだらない揉め事をいつまでも続けたくない
野球見ようという気持ちが無くなるわ
2名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:S/gFGhMD02023/07/16(日) 16:42:48.99
若頭wwwwwwww
3名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cdFo8QlG02023/07/16(日) 16:45:32.26
これは押し出しだったよ
4名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ek4nL2rc02023/07/16(日) 16:45:47.88
いい加減ストライク判定を機械でやれ
審判の機嫌や球場の雰囲気で判定されたらたまらんわ
審判の機嫌や球場の雰囲気で判定されたらたまらんわ
5名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jlb0ggYJ02023/07/16(日) 16:45:53.86
動画もなしにスレ立てとな
6名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Zcwd1Jgp02023/07/16(日) 16:46:51.02
その前のストライクっぽい球がボール判定だった帳尻だろ
33名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gJ1ZkHct0
>>6
見たけどボール判定されてしゃあない
あのイニングの宮城はストライク入ってなかったし
死球も食らわせてた
見たけどボール判定されてしゃあない
あのイニングの宮城はストライク入ってなかったし
死球も食らわせてた
7名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:m2qDBrBt02023/07/16(日) 16:47:33.57
セルフジャッジは審判に嫌われるってわかってんだから控えりゃいいのに
一瞬ちょっといい気になれるってだけやん
一瞬ちょっといい気になれるってだけやん
8名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HGJrYFw902023/07/16(日) 16:48:46.88
ソフトバンクは唸るほど金持ってんのに8連敗さしても監督変えんのか
環境も年俸も言い訳できんぞ
環境も年俸も言い訳できんぞ
9名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iQQspD+F02023/07/16(日) 16:49:07.84
謝ったところで何の意味もないだろ
10名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VUSLDzFF02023/07/16(日) 16:49:23.77
でもその前のストライクだから
行って来いでチャラ
行って来いでチャラ
11名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PwgviXmX02023/07/16(日) 16:49:44.50
ha、球審がストライクって言ったらコース外れたてたってストライク
審判の誤審含めて野球やってんだから仕方ねえじゃん審判や選手はミスするもんだろ
まあAI導入するまで辛抱しろアホ
審判の誤審含めて野球やってんだから仕方ねえじゃん審判や選手はミスするもんだろ
まあAI導入するまで辛抱しろアホ
12名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:J/pUW22G02023/07/16(日) 16:49:46.00
平田に怒られた白井か？
46名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hzt82xey0
>>12
吉母
吉母
59名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:K2gbBGH30
>>12
クソボールに見えたがユルく落ちる球だったので
>>42が書いてるようにちゃんとストライクだったのかもしれん
クソボールに見えたがユルく落ちる球だったので
>>42が書いてるようにちゃんとストライクだったのかもしれん
13名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qrzatjnF02023/07/16(日) 16:50:07.05
あきらかなボールに関しては協議対象にしても良いとは思うんだがな
一試合一回で
一試合一回で
14名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:q68Ve1sd02023/07/16(日) 16:50:20.38
カメラで別室で判定か、センサーつけまくって機械判定か
どっちかやってもいいかな
でも球審の仕事減って審判つまらないだろーけど
どっちかやってもいいかな
でも球審の仕事減って審判つまらないだろーけど
15名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qGKJoTEa02023/07/16(日) 16:50:31.18
謝罪しとけよ
ストライクだったぞ
ストライクだったぞ
16名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NaRDOaEZ02023/07/16(日) 16:50:51.88
まず髭を剃れ
17名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YLCoIIQz02023/07/16(日) 16:52:35.05
ソフトバンクよりオリックスの方が金持ってたって事でｗ
18名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:S0N6kevg02023/07/16(日) 16:53:20.49
言うほど酷いジャッジでもないだろ
どっちとも取れる感じ
まあ、ただの負け惜しみだな
どっちとも取れる感じ
まあ、ただの負け惜しみだな
22名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Tam1AQuo0
>>18
上からの動画見た？
思いっきり外れてるよ
上からの動画見た？
思いっきり外れてるよ
19名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sQL/vluJ02023/07/16(日) 16:53:40.73
https://imgur.com/q9XIKDv.jpg
20名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5WwPjHr90
>>19
フレーミングもなしかよw
フレーミングもなしかよw
25名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qrzatjnF0
>>19
これじゃわからん
これじゃわからん
67名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:56cEC/c20
>>19
これはボールやね
際どくも無い
これはボールやね
際どくも無い
21名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:C2P9KbUE02023/07/16(日) 16:56:00.57
プロ野球は興行
今シーズンの野球はどんな風にするかは、球審のストライクゾーンで調整してるんだよ。
交流戦は始まった当初パとセの審判でストライクゾーンが違うと問題になったろ。それはセパで野球が違うのは
審判の判定が違うから。
あとやたら、ノーヒットノーランがでたシーズンとかあったのは、審判がみんな投手有利にシーズンコントロールしてたりしてる。
あと延長戦できないときも、できるだけ引き分けにならないようにしてたはず。
今シーズンの野球はどんな風にするかは、球審のストライクゾーンで調整してるんだよ。
交流戦は始まった当初パとセの審判でストライクゾーンが違うと問題になったろ。それはセパで野球が違うのは
審判の判定が違うから。
あとやたら、ノーヒットノーランがでたシーズンとかあったのは、審判がみんな投手有利にシーズンコントロールしてたりしてる。
あと延長戦できないときも、できるだけ引き分けにならないようにしてたはず。
23名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nm43Q4/802023/07/16(日) 16:57:03.00
ヒゲのせいで大量リードの時しか試合見なくなったわ
24名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PwgviXmX02023/07/16(日) 16:57:24.98
えええ、8連敗か先ずファンに謝れヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
26名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IPWzg/Ky02023/07/16(日) 17:00:13.53
セルフジャッジでおっしゃあ！！とかやってるからだよ。
アホか。
アホか。
27名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Vnbb4Hmh02023/07/16(日) 17:01:32.48
ストライクやボールの判定に対してはチャレンジはできんの?
32名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zaochxZN0
>>27
出来ない
出来ない
28名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HPaV39cK02023/07/16(日) 17:01:39.97
あんだけ補強して3位かよ
29名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AAQbIIxR02023/07/16(日) 17:02:49.50
藤本辞めろ藤本辞めろ藤本辞めろ藤本辞めろ藤本辞めろ藤本辞めろ藤本辞めろ藤本辞めろ藤本辞めろ
31名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QeZb6NA802023/07/16(日) 17:06:55.30
審判も選手も監督も人間だからミスをする
「審判にはそう見えたんだ」と納得するしかないだろ
行って来いと思うしかない
誤審で得することもあれば損することもあるんだと
「審判にはそう見えたんだ」と納得するしかないだろ
行って来いと思うしかない
誤審で得することもあれば損することもあるんだと
34名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+4DXoffj02023/07/16(日) 17:12:46.12
誤審で良い思いしたことだって幾度となくあるでしょ
言ったところでどうにもならんわよ
言ったところでどうにもならんわよ
35名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gJ1ZkHct02023/07/16(日) 17:14:29.51
ソフバンに関しちゃそんなにない
一時期、ハムパイアと呼ばれてるのはたくさんあったけど
一時期、ハムパイアと呼ばれてるのはたくさんあったけど
36名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dkBIDnS502023/07/16(日) 17:16:16.58
人の目で判定する以上仕方ないよ
37名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qYlvZEkJ02023/07/16(日) 17:17:09.76
ストライクボール判定は機械じゃダメなんか
38名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fnjGZFM+02023/07/16(日) 17:17:49.97
機械判定も打者の体にセンサーいくつもつけないと
正確な判定にはならないよね
正確な判定にはならないよね
62名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ogQoJPG00
>>38
やると成ったら
全選手の身体測定データからストライクゾーンを毎打席ごとに３Dホログラムで貸し借りだろ
やると成ったら
全選手の身体測定データからストライクゾーンを毎打席ごとに３Dホログラムで貸し借りだろ
39名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:F2/4RFI302023/07/16(日) 17:19:11.92
いざ行け～陶器のパカパカ軍団～
40名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:79zKQOJe02023/07/16(日) 17:19:34.83
逆にボールをストライクと言ってもらってる時もあるんだから
41名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vrnPZDcm02023/07/16(日) 17:20:32.96
中継カメラだと分かりにくいかもしれんが明らかなボールだったな
相変わらず近藤健介は冷静だわ
相変わらず近藤健介は冷静だわ
42名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aIum8jX702023/07/16(日) 17:22:32.81
機械判定は2Aだかのテストで評判すこぶる悪かったからな
ストライクゾーンにかすってるだけでストライク判定になるから打者が相当不利になるみたいだ
ストライクゾーンにかすってるだけでストライク判定になるから打者が相当不利になるみたいだ
52名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1+cB0hhh0
>>42
ストライクゾーンかすればストライクってそれ正しいんじゃねえの？
ストライクゾーンかすればストライクってそれ正しいんじゃねえの？
53名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8SZljq7S0
>>52
三苫のあれと一緒なんやな
三苫のあれと一緒なんやな
54名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Zcwd1Jgp0
>>42
打者の位置はベースよりも後ろだけど
機械の判定はルールで定められたベースの真上で判定するので判定意識のズレができるそうな
打者の位置はベースよりも後ろだけど
機械の判定はルールで定められたベースの真上で判定するので判定意識のズレができるそうな
59名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:K2gbBGH30
>>12
クソボールに見えたがユルく落ちる球だったので
>>42が書いてるようにちゃんとストライクだったのかもしれん
クソボールに見えたがユルく落ちる球だったので
>>42が書いてるようにちゃんとストライクだったのかもしれん
43名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vfILV6Sr02023/07/16(日) 17:22:54.86
謝ります。では済まされない
辞任するくらいのことを引き換えにだせ
辞任するくらいのことを引き換えにだせ
44名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zL/eqjXf02023/07/16(日) 17:25:37.00
これはどう見てもボールだったからなw
45名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PwgviXmX02023/07/16(日) 17:26:24.08
じゃあコントロール系の投手は損してるのか気の毒
47名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zi92BPJr02023/07/16(日) 17:29:34.62
セルフジャッジは審判敵に回すからな
48名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nwbFlq+o02023/07/16(日) 17:30:48.26
球審判定も2～3回分リクエストに咥えろ、たまに判定酷すぎ
誤審何回かで謝罪会見
誤審何回かで謝罪会見
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