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【MLB】藤浪晋太郎が別人に…四球激減で安定感 8試合で1四球 電撃トレードも現実味?

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400名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pSEYEC8J02023/07/07(金) 16:39:11.70
メガネかけてワイルドシングで登板しろよ
401名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QuCgz2I402023/07/07(金) 16:45:54.37
先発したら持たないやろ?
402名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YRw2qx6L02023/07/07(金) 16:57:24.22
5勝のうち実力でもぎとった勝利はいくつあるんですかね?
403名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ndOInxPZ02023/07/07(金) 16:58:28.62
俺たちの藤浪はもっとやってくれる筈!!
404名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xwha5blz02023/07/07(金) 17:00:34.56
球筋、回転が一球ごとにめちゃくちゃなのがいいんだろ
まとまってきたら打たれるわ
佐々木朗希だって現状のままならかなり打たれるだろう
406名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TChbm8M902023/07/07(金) 17:05:25.48
他のルールとか技術は改革も進化もしてるくせに
ピッチャーの勝ちと自責のルールはずっとおかしいよな、
満塁で出てきて全部ランナー返したのに自責点は0とか
それでも裏で野手が打って逆転でもしたらそいつが勝利投手とか
あれは欠陥すぎる
435名無しさん@恐縮ですID:C1dmiN8n0
>>406
だから日本はともかく今は勝敗なんかで年俸つかないし
防御率だって目安WHIP、FIP、WAR等も見られて中身を精査された上で
価値が決まるだろ
407名無しさん@恐縮ですID:06Db2hGM02023/07/07(金) 17:07:14.68
大谷の代わりに勝手にオールスターで投げればいいのにな。どうせアメリカ人には見分けがつかないだろ。
409名無しさん@恐縮ですID:f9IUjaCa02023/07/07(金) 17:13:45.51
藤浪期待ニキは
パチンカスになる素質ある
410名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6Q6jq28n02023/07/07(金) 17:19:36.67
大谷 7勝4敗 防3.32 100.1回 132K
菊池 7勝3敗 防4.24 *93.1回 *96K
千賀 6勝5敗 防3.31 *89.2回 113K
ダル 5勝6敗 防4.84 *80.0回 *85K
藤浪 5勝7敗 防9.35 *43.1回 *46K
前田 2勝5敗 防5.18 *33.0回 *35K
416名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sD7piVK80
>>410
二刀流の大谷が一番イニング数を食ってて草
専門職の人は立場が無いな、もっと仕事しろよ
411名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pVgkYtTU02023/07/07(金) 17:28:17.10
ブルペンでいいならどこも欲しがるよ
100マイルの速球は魅力的だし
412名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oLVByEHX02023/07/07(金) 17:29:52.46
エンゼルスにこい!!!
413名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oLVByEHX02023/07/07(金) 17:32:03.28
メジャーって勝敗と防御率どっちが評価されるの?
日本は勝ち星にこだわるけどさ
414名無しさん@恐縮ですID:68R8Eub102023/07/07(金) 17:34:08.20
そんな事も知らないでメジャー見てる奴がいたとは
415名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T3SCWgvp02023/07/07(金) 17:35:47.49
防御率だぞ。つか勝敗投手の基準ってたまにイミフだし
417名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dLvzYDqx02023/07/07(金) 17:40:42.29
ゴミカスでも5勝できる…
418名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4NHtlL6X02023/07/07(金) 17:44:52.43
あんだけ球場ガラッガラなのに藤浪の4億が安いっていくら円安とはいえ金の出どころが謎すぎるわメジャー
427名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hgtjpmEq0
>>418
メジャーのファンが球場に来て熱狂するのはポストシーズンがはじまってからだよ

それまでは球場に来ないでテレビで観てる

日本の競馬場もG1レースは超満員でも土曜日の午前の未勝利戦とかはスタンドガラガラでしょ、それと同じ

420名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Hr/luAUV02023/07/07(金) 17:48:38.91
今替え玉流行ってるからな藤浪晋太郎はゴム人間だよ
421名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4Z6I2yDg02023/07/07(金) 17:49:51.25
メジャーは分配金があるからな
各チームが独立採算な訳ではない
422名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T3SCWgvp02023/07/07(金) 17:51:33.02
有料放映権があるスポーツは金の流れが大きくなる
423名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dLvzYDqx02023/07/07(金) 17:55:25.64
藤浪みたいなカスを使い続けるアスレチックスすげぇよ
424名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DZlCmCCx02023/07/07(金) 18:00:20.36
ついに本気出したの?
425名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T3SCWgvp02023/07/07(金) 18:00:22.10
だって他のピッチャーもほぼ藤浪レベルだぞアスレチックス
426名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NvZhhNhy02023/07/07(金) 18:03:04.95
バカみたいに情弱だましてるが勝ち星も棚からぼた餅
藤浪登場でランナーは返すが登板時は打たれても藤浪にノーダメージ
勝ち数だけ運良く増えるが評価に値しない
428名無しさん@恐縮ですID:V0BFf8pg02023/07/07(金) 18:04:06.05
一時的かもしれないから(´・ω・`)
429名無しさん@恐縮ですID:clGZREoI02023/07/07(金) 18:04:56.34
どうせイニング跨ぐと崩れるんでしょ
430名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mbk8p6Q702023/07/07(金) 18:07:34.04
クローザーは9回だけ仕事すりゃいいんだよ上等だろ
431名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wVWwWIsN02023/07/07(金) 18:10:19.08
このままいったら勝利数で大谷を越えてしまうよ
432名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qeYQNZP50
>>431
リリーフで10勝こえるのはまず聞いたことないから相当なラッキーマンじゃないと無理
437名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AtO+VQcZ0
>>432
リリーフで14勝した篠原が居るな
436名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xc1LeyjN0
>>431
普通にありえる
登板数は先発の比じゃないし、同点かビハインドで、一回投げて裏に味方が点取ってくれれば勝ち投手権利だから
リリーフと先発で勝ち数という数字がおかしいという議論を藤浪が産むかもな
433名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MIuSzWQX02023/07/07(金) 18:16:56.37
先発で使え
434名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PmsJcC+X02023/07/07(金) 18:17:47.14
つまんね
438名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0QDGVsOS02023/07/07(金) 18:50:21.25
おおーメジャーもきちんと藤浪の楽しみ方わかってるじゃん
調子がいい時は褒めてどうせすぐ失点するからその時は手のひらくるくるするんだぞ
439名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6uxrn4BH02023/07/07(金) 18:51:24.59
二段モーション化はいわば盲点だったな。もし昌ではなく隈にコーチやらしてりゃ阪神時代にもこの変化はあったあもしれない。
443名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dJfcear80
>>439
日本でも二段モーションしてたぞ
440名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SDJWgvgv02023/07/07(金) 18:53:09.88
ランディ藤浪、年俸100億決定か。
凄すぎるわ
441名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FGqy59Hq02023/07/07(金) 18:54:07.62
一年契約か
じゃー、トレードあれば出した方が得か
442名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FxW12qJD02023/07/07(金) 19:02:04.81
だからランナー出てないときはいいんだよ
444名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jkZrBRCE02023/07/07(金) 19:03:51.93
ピシャリ頭に死球
445名無しさん@恐縮ですID:C1dmiN8n02023/07/07(金) 19:06:34.83
そういやこれがセーフなのに日本で二段モーション禁止やってたから騒ぎってなんだったんやろな
Windups That Prove Nestor Cortes Is The Weirdest Pitcher in Baseball

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446名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jIuWNHD+02023/07/07(金) 19:10:34.29
弱小アスレチックスのノーコン豪速球ストッパーって、まさに毒島だな
藤浪にもチック君や佐世保さんがいると良いな
447名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SN6/8klt02023/07/07(金) 19:13:16.21
京浜アスレチックス、懐かしいな。
毒島好きやったわ
448名無しさん@恐縮ですID:THvOWg3g02023/07/07(金) 19:34:38.15
タイブレークのシステムが藤浪向きだわ
ランナー2塁ってのがね
ヒット打たれたら終りだけど四球や死球はモーマンタイだから

もしタイブレークが、ランナー一塁なら藤浪向きじゃなかったよな、四球でいきなり大ピンチだからね

453名無しさん@恐縮ですID:94Xm6ohL0
>>448
四死球が多いピッチャーにとって、一塁があいているというのは、
精神的にも有利なのかもしれないね。

普通のPは、わざわざ一塁を埋めるような投球するくらいだからな。

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