500名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pFlNGsXg02023/07/08(土) 07:13:38.55
こうやってちょっと安心させてから
また元に戻るのが藤浪
また元に戻るのが藤浪
501名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CDTrdDpH02023/07/08(土) 07:24:03.27
今考えると二段モーションの規制がおかしかった。メジャーよりはるかに厳しいし
502名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ciqy3Od902023/07/08(土) 07:26:45.47
年俸300万ドルって防御率の悪い中継ぎに払う額じゃないから
記事が無能すぎ
記事が無能すぎ
504名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VQFGaDUq02023/07/08(土) 07:56:32.84
今は打者の頭に死のイメージがあるから抑えられてんだろ
普通に制球安定したら何マイル出そうがバカスカ打たれるよ
普通に制球安定したら何マイル出そうがバカスカ打たれるよ
505名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XWiDpcMs02023/07/08(土) 08:00:00.71
澤村のようにリリーフ転向すれば1イニングならいけるということだな
508名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uijretby0
>>505
それは前から分かってたんだけど、本人が先発復帰にこだわった
今回も先発に戻りたがると思う
それは前から分かってたんだけど、本人が先発復帰にこだわった
今回も先発に戻りたがると思う
506名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/5Dczyw202023/07/08(土) 08:01:24.25
打者の空振り率がメジャー全体でも上位なのが凄い
507名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UC0gr1XH02023/07/08(土) 08:09:19.53
調子悪いな
509名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hjdLayd702023/07/08(土) 08:31:03.25
こんなの俺らの期待している藤浪じゃない
開幕直後の藤浪を返してよ
開幕直後の藤浪を返してよ
510名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OuKyuJJM02023/07/08(土) 08:46:59.20
野球て基本的はメンタルスポーツだよな
阪神ていうプレッシャーから解放されたらふつうに投げれるだよな
あと野次が何言ってるかわからないのもでかいと思う
イチロー大谷がいつまで経っても通訳付けて英語覚えようとしないのには訳があるんだなと
阪神ていうプレッシャーから解放されたらふつうに投げれるだよな
あと野次が何言ってるかわからないのもでかいと思う
イチロー大谷がいつまで経っても通訳付けて英語覚えようとしないのには訳があるんだなと
512名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uijretby0
>>510
阪神でもリリーフでは結果を出してたぞ
それで本人が調子に乗って先発復帰を希望し、またやらかしてたのに、メジャーとも先発ありきの契約を結んだ
阪神でもリリーフでは結果を出してたぞ
それで本人が調子に乗って先発復帰を希望し、またやらかしてたのに、メジャーとも先発ありきの契約を結んだ
阪神ファンのヤジではなく、自分自身の適性を把握してない藤浪の先発至上主義が不振の原因
511名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pwb3/+zB02023/07/08(土) 08:57:14.16
緊急告知
社会問題の本
大阪で1番恥を晒した男が奇跡の更生を果たした物語！！
現在死にたいと思っている方へ。
中林和男と申します。
中2でシャブを覚え
犯歴23犯、前科11犯、少年院1回、
刑務所8回、獄中20年を経て15年前にシャブを断ち
更生を果たす。
現在は微力ながらボランティア活動の真似事をしています。
ワタクシのノンフィクション自叙伝
「ゴミと呼ばれて」刑務所の中の落ちこぼれ
現在6500部売れています。
印税は全額社会福祉協議会に寄付‼
そして、贖罪の為に毎朝2時に起きて新聞配達の給料も
親の居ない子供達が暮らす施設に寄付。
人間やる気一つで何でもできる。
ワシが証明した。
生きる勇気が湧く本。
奇跡を起こしたノンフィクション自叙伝！！
是非一読を。
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Amazon、Rakuten books、紀伊國屋書店等等、
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社会問題の本
大阪で1番恥を晒した男が奇跡の更生を果たした物語！！
現在死にたいと思っている方へ。
中林和男と申します。
中2でシャブを覚え
犯歴23犯、前科11犯、少年院1回、
刑務所8回、獄中20年を経て15年前にシャブを断ち
更生を果たす。
現在は微力ながらボランティア活動の真似事をしています。
ワタクシのノンフィクション自叙伝
「ゴミと呼ばれて」刑務所の中の落ちこぼれ
現在6500部売れています。
印税は全額社会福祉協議会に寄付‼
そして、贖罪の為に毎朝2時に起きて新聞配達の給料も
親の居ない子供達が暮らす施設に寄付。
人間やる気一つで何でもできる。
ワシが証明した。
生きる勇気が湧く本。
奇跡を起こしたノンフィクション自叙伝！！
是非一読を。
インターネット通販サイト
Amazon、Rakuten books、紀伊國屋書店等等、
全国の書店でお買い求めになれます。
513名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SyclM26t02023/07/08(土) 09:25:50.49
最近１ヶ月なら4.0ぐらい？
514名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SLRDk+Qg02023/07/08(土) 09:36:56.00
新庄も阪神を辞めてから人生好転したし
やっぱり阪神にいるとダメなんだと思う
やっぱり阪神にいるとダメなんだと思う
519名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uijretby0
>>514
新庄は宇宙人なところを受け入れてもらえなかったけど、藤浪は本人のやりたいようにやらせてもらえてた
リリーフとしてようやく復活したのに先発復帰希望をあっさり通してもらった
チームに大して貢献してない上、コロナお持ち帰りで迷惑かけてたくらいなのに、メジャー行きまで許してもらえた
藤浪の今があるのは阪神のおかげ
新庄は宇宙人なところを受け入れてもらえなかったけど、藤浪は本人のやりたいようにやらせてもらえてた
リリーフとしてようやく復活したのに先発復帰希望をあっさり通してもらった
チームに大して貢献してない上、コロナお持ち帰りで迷惑かけてたくらいなのに、メジャー行きまで許してもらえた
藤浪の今があるのは阪神のおかげ
523名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SLRDk+Qg0
>>519
「阪神が藤浪にメジャー行きを許した」というよりも、「阪神はFAで出て行かれるのが確実だったので、藤浪をポスティングで海外に放出した」のだと思いますよ
「阪神が藤浪にメジャー行きを許した」というよりも、「阪神はFAで出て行かれるのが確実だったので、藤浪をポスティングで海外に放出した」のだと思いますよ
藤浪に国内の他球団に行かれて覚醒されたらヤバいから
526名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KdOYAsyn0
>>523
違うな
恐らく10年契約＋ポスティングOKで阪神に入団した
だから不祥事起こしてもクビやトレードにならずに丁度10年でポスティングした
それだけの話だろ
違うな
恐らく10年契約＋ポスティングOKで阪神に入団した
だから不祥事起こしてもクビやトレードにならずに丁度10年でポスティングした
それだけの話だろ
530名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uijretby0
>>523
他球団がトレードで欲しがってたという話は合ったけど、藤浪自身に国内他球団に行く気はあったの？
先発復帰希望を叶えてくれた上、遊びにも事欠かない阪神を捨てるとはとても思えないが
阪神ファンやメディアも、国内他球団に出ていったOBには冷たいし
他球団がトレードで欲しがってたという話は合ったけど、藤浪自身に国内他球団に行く気はあったの？
先発復帰希望を叶えてくれた上、遊びにも事欠かない阪神を捨てるとはとても思えないが
阪神ファンやメディアも、国内他球団に出ていったOBには冷たいし
547名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SLRDk+Qg0
>>530
もちろんあったでしょ
阪神という球団が嫌いで仕方なかったみたいだし
もちろんあったでしょ
阪神という球団が嫌いで仕方なかったみたいだし
鳥谷や能見、井川と同じでしょ
阪神でなければもっともっと成長できたよ
高山も早くトレードに出してあげて
549名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wHcjM0+B0
>>547
お前と井川が阪神嫌いなだけで、鳥谷や能見は阪神嫌いには思えない経歴だが
藤浪が阪神嫌いなら、わざわざメジャーに行かず、もう少し我慢して国内FAで移籍するはず
お前と井川が阪神嫌いなだけで、鳥谷や能見は阪神嫌いには思えない経歴だが
藤浪が阪神嫌いなら、わざわざメジャーに行かず、もう少し我慢して国内FAで移籍するはず
551名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SLRDk+Qg0
>>549
これ知らないの？
これ知らないの？
【悲報】能見・鳥谷「今だから言える。阪神ファンは民度が低過ぎて大嫌いだった」
http://fielderschoice.blog.jp/archives/9758582.html
【悲報】能見・鳥谷「今だから言える。阪神ファンは民度が低過ぎて大嫌いだった」 : フィルダースチョイス1: 名無しさん 2021/09/21(火) 12:57:02.35 ID:TZVopdONp 引用元: ・fielderschoice.blog.jp
552名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dfJw/SaO0
>>551
FA権あるのに阪神に残り続けて、今も阪神絡みの仕事を受けてるのに？
こんなの「アイドントライクハンシンファン」くらいの意味合いだよ
FA権あるのに阪神に残り続けて、今も阪神絡みの仕事を受けてるのに？
こんなの「アイドントライクハンシンファン」くらいの意味合いだよ
井川も今年からデイリーの解説者になってるな
そんなに阪神嫌いじゃないようなので、訂正しておこう
515名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MC/Zm2c802023/07/08(土) 09:39:04.06
ダイジョーブ博士きたな
517名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rKcdMK+U02023/07/08(土) 09:44:51.55
流石メジャー 藤浪さんを育てたか
阪神の無能さが目立つ
阪神の無能さが目立つ
518名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qp3G+NCP02023/07/08(土) 10:07:51.59
藤浪はもうすぐ完全に覚醒するよ
来月からには先発ローテに復活してマダックス連発で勝ちまくる様になる
来月からには先発ローテに復活してマダックス連発で勝ちまくる様になる
520名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Z2Z6lVqH02023/07/08(土) 10:46:20.10
「たまたま」じゃね？w
映像見てても相変わらず構えたとこ全然いってないぞ
映像見てても相変わらず構えたとこ全然いってないぞ
522名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uijretby0
>>520
投手版ロマン砲だよね
投手版ロマン砲だよね
521名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7TmAy9OM02023/07/08(土) 10:53:21.93
藤浪に構えは関係ないから
100マイルがストライクゾーンに入れば成功
100マイルがストライクゾーンに入れば成功
524名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Q+tgcwbH02023/07/08(土) 11:20:41.33
阪神時代から同じ繰り返し。
また来季にはリセットされてノーコンからのスタートになる。知らんけど。
525名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Y1J6jTzp02023/07/08(土) 11:29:27.72
まあ名刺代わりにノーコンてとこ見せつけといて打たれそうになったら｢あ、手が滑ったメンゴメンゴ｣でビーンボールなげときゃバッタービビってくれるから
あとはストライクとるのは余裕だわなあw
あとはストライクとるのは余裕だわなあw
528名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6Zm6rDsO02023/07/08(土) 12:41:02.91
ああっ、そんなことしたら体液が出ちゃう
529名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SZPrIZeg02023/07/08(土) 12:46:10.93
阪神赤っ恥の発想がわからん
ウインウインやん
強いて言うなら金本が藤浪を使いこなせなかっただけと言う
ウインウインやん
強いて言うなら金本が藤浪を使いこなせなかっただけと言う
531名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7TmAy9OM02023/07/08(土) 13:20:24.89
阪神ファンもメディアも適当だから叩いて良いと思えば叩くし持ち上げようと思えばどこまでも持ち上げるぞ
535名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:in7K6RXI0
>>531
メディアは優しいというか、メディア側の人間を味方に付けてたのが藤浪だぞ
わがまま通しまくって出て行ったのに、ファンも大して叩かなかった
メディアは優しいというか、メディア側の人間を味方に付けてたのが藤浪だぞ
わがまま通しまくって出て行ったのに、ファンも大して叩かなかった
532名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hjzYE50N02023/07/08(土) 13:25:14.06
3人限定のリリーフをトレードは厳しいのでは？
クローザー適性ないし
クローザー適性ないし
533名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HtnUuEIs02023/07/08(土) 13:37:28.11
4シーム平均球速は157.6km/h
400球以上だとメジャー全体4位/85人
リリーフとはいえ素材としてはメジャーでもトップレベル
400球以上だとメジャー全体4位/85人
リリーフとはいえ素材としてはメジャーでもトップレベル
534名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Bi0/896f02023/07/08(土) 14:00:19.96
お前ら、メジャーで五勝も出来ないのに偉そうだな
536名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6uMgYLFV02023/07/08(土) 14:18:30.44
要するにさ、投げ込み不足だったんだろ？
ちゃんと投げ込んでれば開幕から結果出せたはず
ちゃんと投げ込んでれば開幕から結果出せたはず
538名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Bi0/896f02023/07/08(土) 14:22:44.53
ポテンシャル極みの藤浪さんを応援しよう。
539名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Naj8vKOV02023/07/08(土) 14:23:18.73
不死浪新太郎
540名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Bi0/896f02023/07/08(土) 14:25:20.77
堺の人間国宝 藤浪さんを応援しよう。
541名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GpQx3mwj02023/07/08(土) 14:25:42.50
覚醒してやっとこ大谷佐々木レベルでしょ
542名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zb+4BQ4Z02023/07/08(土) 14:41:37.51
基本的にここ数年は先発できる状態じゃなかっただけなんだよ
最初っから後ろに回してたら戦力にはなってた
最初っから後ろに回してたら戦力にはなってた
543名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7TmAy9OM02023/07/08(土) 14:46:45.36
トレードに出したら先発6イニング無失点の100マイル投手をわざわざリリーフ用のフォームにするから最下位なんだよってなって
またフォーム探しの旅に出されそうｗ
またフォーム探しの旅に出されそうｗ
544名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ajYhLCZJ0
>>543
渡米直前に自ら指名してお股ニキの指導を受けた藤浪…
渡米直前に自ら指名してお股ニキの指導を受けた藤浪…
545名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:K0PQqLpL02023/07/08(土) 14:49:09.33
メジャーで惜しまれつつ日本に復帰してオリックスか
546名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:P6IPYAU80
>>545
日本だと先発じゃなきゃイヤイヤするから無理だろ
日本だと先発じゃなきゃイヤイヤするから無理だろ
548名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Vnrj+FPJ02023/07/08(土) 15:14:58.93
ミゲレラってまだ現役だったんだ
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