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【がーどまん】税金トラブル、泥沼化 税理士の証拠音声公開「コロナの災害延長が使えるから大丈夫」「訴えてくれれば保険金が使える」

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1muffin ★ID:PaYAgFi292023/07/05(水) 15:45:33.09
https://www.sponichi.co.jp/entertainment/news/2023/07/05/kiji/20230705s00041000227000c.html
2023年7月5日 10:50

チャンネル登録者数262万人の人気ユーチューバーグループ「チャンネルがーどまん」が、5日までに動画を更新。マネジメント事務所「Carry On」を退所するきっかけとなった税金納付トラブルについて、事務所側の主張と食い違いがあるとして、改めて説明した。

がーどまんは6月30日、事務所からの退所を発表。理由について、事務所から紹介された税理士が納税を担っていたはずが、その税理士の不手際で申請が漏れていたといい、がーどまんの自宅と実家に120人規模の捜査体制で国税の査察が入る事態となったという。「自分はCarry Onに紹介された税理士にお金も払ってたのに」と説明。数千万円に及ぶ延滞税が徴収されたとして、事務所への不信感や憤りを涙ながらに語った。
中略

この事務所の発表があった翌日、がーどまんは「事務所を脱退した全ての真実を話します」と題する動画を投稿。「なぜ自分でやらなかったのか」という意見について、がーどまんは「まず、僕は個人事業主ではない」と説明した上で、法人で会計事務所と顧問契約を結んでいたため、「自分では申告できませんでした」と説明。また、自宅に届いた税務署の書類はすべて会計事務所と共有しており、「コロナの災害延長が使えるから大丈夫」だと担当者に言われていたと、証拠となる音声を添えて報告した。音声では、担当者とされる人物が「コロナで少し引っ張りましょう」などと話している。

また、会計事務所との契約には「申告」も業務内容に含まれており、顧問料については前払いで支払い済みで、担当者から資料の請求があれば、その都度応じていたという。だが、申告期限に申告がされていなかったことが発覚し「1年遅れているにも関わらず“コロナの災害延長が使える”と言って、申告してくれませんでした」と語った。

この時、がーどまんは納税のお金を用意していたが、「申告業務が間に合わなかったから“延長を使いたい”と言われました」といい、これに関しても「あまり大きいな声では言えないけど…」などと話す証拠音声を公開。「大人を信用し過ぎた自分に非があると思います」と、税理士を信頼し過ぎたとして自身の落ち度を反省した。

このやり取りの後、コロナ災害延長で伸ばした1年の期限を過ぎても申告されなかったため、不信感を抱いたがーどまんは税理士を変更。新たな担当税理士が申告をする直前に、国税局が自宅に入ったという。その翌日に納税と申告を済ませ、数千万円に及ぶ延滞税が徴収されることについて事務所の社長に相談すると、「時計売っちゃえばいいじゃん」などと告げられたと主張した。

さらに税理士側は、「訴えてくれれば保険金を使える」などと説明。「延滞金、延滞税とかあったらですね、税理士賠償保険…というのがあって。訴えてくだされば、それが認められると思う。数千万とかになっちゃったとしたら、自力で払うのは難しいので…」などと告白したという。その後、示談の提案として「おいくらだったら許していただけると言いますか…」などと、がーどまんに相談する音声を公開した。

示談の交渉に、がーどまんは「いきなり僕がニュースになって脱税で逮捕されましたってなったら、仕事を失ってしまう」と主張。公開するに至ったという。

がーどまんは、改めて「大人を信用し過ぎて、視聴者の皆さんや国税局の方にご迷惑をおかけしまして、自分も反省します。本当にすみませんでした」と頭を下げた。

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2名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q8mfdCDo02023/07/05(水) 15:49:46.69
なんで録音してるんだ
3名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xNUo3lyn02023/07/05(水) 15:58:57.45
ヤフコメ民謝れよ

通常の国税の動きじゃない
YouTuberがきっと無知でわかってないんだ~と騒いでるやつばかりだった

4名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UMRft3wU02023/07/05(水) 16:03:52.12
普通に裁判だわな
5名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FnUfKlt+02023/07/05(水) 16:03:57.05
これヤラセだよ
6名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Hlcx7H0702023/07/05(水) 16:04:16.69
大人を信用しすぎてって謝罪してるけどこの人は未成年なの?
7名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0Xg9XFWY02023/07/05(水) 16:05:01.14
いつも嘘だらけのこいつら信用皆無
8名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dDUYmgNs02023/07/05(水) 16:06:58.77
税理士のミスで延滞税でちゃったから賠償保険みたいな使い方は確かできないんじゃなかったかな?
なかなか面白い事例ではある
60名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ScU11J8G0
>>8
ですよねええwおもろい弁護士やん
示談したがってるのがその証拠
82名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3/dKkuU30
>>8
動画公開されたらもう保険は無理だな
そして保険が使えないとがーどまんは回収自体ができないかもしれんね
9名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wqPqScYr02023/07/05(水) 16:13:43.55
何でこんなバレバレの嘘つくんだ
税務署関係で突然なんかあるわけないだろ
10名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oA4IP3Q602023/07/05(水) 16:21:16.98
きょうび、相手がボイレコで録音してると意識しながら発言しないといけない
めったな事は口にすべきではない
11名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZV/F3zfF02023/07/05(水) 16:30:07.59
で、なんで事務所が悪者みたくなってんの?
事務所は紹介した立場で、会計事務所との契約はYouTuber所有の法人だろ?
事務所がなんで示談する必要あんの?
謎やわ
15名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xYG0evS80
>>11
同時期にやめたyoutuberはコメントしない事に同意する事務所側からの書類にサインしたらしいから
まだ表に出てない何かがあると思うよ
もしかしたら組織ぐるみの脱税の可能性もある
12名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7jIedT5P02023/07/05(水) 16:30:58.03
そもそも法人と顧問契約はしてるのか
13名無しさん@恐縮ですID:50tEyY9F02023/07/05(水) 16:31:35.99
税金にトラブルなんぞ無いだろほんとうならお上介入で終了
そんだけのは無いをダラダラダラダラと
14名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BcAMH2lf02023/07/05(水) 16:37:20.19
税理士でもまともじゃないやつはいるからな
JRAの例もあるしw

ただがーどまんの責任も免れないんじゃないの、お金払って終了にはできなさそうな感じが

16名無しさん@恐縮ですID:P9+nv+Is02023/07/05(水) 16:49:46.98
なんで示談交渉で相手に同意無しの録音して世間に公開してんだ?これ弁護士雇ってたらこんなこと絶対やらないと思うけど
19名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hjxMnQ+50
>>16
なんで、ってその反応が答えだろ
この録音が出るまでにユーチューバー側を悪者にしようとしてた奴らの言いがかりを
録音を晒す程度のリスクで全否定できるなら安すぎる しかも税理士はこれは交渉ではないと言っている
17名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5RGLiMU002023/07/05(水) 17:00:29.91
> 人気ユーチューバーグループ「チャンネルがーどまん」

どういう集団でどんな動画上げてるの?

18名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fRJKbCW502023/07/05(水) 17:12:14.82
120人wテレビの観すぎw
20名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jV0jAAkj02023/07/05(水) 17:14:12.07
で、どこのなんて税理士ですか。
21名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2gnE/Ilu02023/07/05(水) 17:23:05.87
よくわからんがとりあえず税金払えばいいんじゃないの
22名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VThV6kms0
>>21
まずソレだよな
23名無しさん@恐縮ですID:V1qMqqge02023/07/05(水) 17:30:55.57
他の辞めた人達もこの税理士関係だったのかね
24名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SogvuH7O02023/07/05(水) 17:34:43.10
こういうのって期限過ぎても支払い無かったらいくらいくら払えって封筒来るもんじゃないの?
25名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VGmvjzat02023/07/05(水) 17:39:05.36
そもそもなんで税金払わないの? ユーチューバーも会計士も
会計士は相手が大金持ちのユーチューバーなんだから
「経費とか差し引いてこんだけ払ってください」って提示したら向こうも払うだろうに
61名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oMI1gRh50
>>25
面倒だから全部任せてその分の金も全部払ってたけど税理士がサボったからこうなったんだろ
63名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YJZcE9g60
>>61
どうやって全部任せるんだよ
税理士が弁護士の資格も持ってて代理人にしないと無理だぞ
税理士なんて権限雑魚なんだから
26名無しさん@恐縮ですID:D7glGJ2X02023/07/05(水) 17:42:26.78
税理士が申告業務が1年以上も遅れてて
間に合わないからコロナ延長持ちかけるとかアタオカ過ぎる
音声聞いてて思ったけど、この税理士ゆとりだな
27名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+9tE1j2W02023/07/05(水) 17:46:18.89
法人の場合って申告1年遅れるただけで国税が動くの?
28名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2czUmA9m02023/07/05(水) 17:55:10.26
この件は動画のネタにしないで、こっそりと解決すべきだったのでは?
下手すると逮捕、起訴
会社や税理士に任せていたのに、やってくれなかった教えてくれなかったとか、裁判で通用するわけない
執行猶予は付くけど、前科持ちになる
29名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cK/fjXZN0
>>28
それな。今当局の指導にしたがって、適切な処置を進めようとしています。
お騒がせして大変申し訳ありませんでした、ぐらいにしとけばいいのに。
31名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4cISZvzp0
>>28
国税の査察が入った時点で何しても無駄こっそり解決なんてできない
後は粛々と捜査、事情聴取が進んで必要なら逮捕・起訴されるだけ
今回動画にしたのは元所属事務所と会計事務所への恨みだろうね
30名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2gnE/Ilu02023/07/05(水) 18:00:14.00
YouTuberなんて何があろうとまず動画ネタになる!ってのが一番に来るんだろ。通り魔に襲われても動画撮るのを一番に優先させそうな奴らばっか
32名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CfP0ItNH02023/07/05(水) 18:06:19.07
これもドッキリなんだろ?
33名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DVmhDi6/02023/07/05(水) 18:06:42.25
コロナによる延長は一時期申告書にそう書くだけで認められていたのはたしかにそうだけど
去年くらいからもうそこまでお手軽には使えなかったはずなんだがな
これ本当に去年の録音か?
34名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hjxMnQ+502023/07/05(水) 18:09:19.62
内々に済ませて後で国税が入ったとバレた場合ただの脱税して事務所クビになった奴らとしか映らん 騒ぎにしない理由が無い
そもそもこいつらに有利な展開になってるのが気に食わないから「黙ってりゃいいのに」って感想になるんだろ
35名無しさん@恐縮ですID:l50CtW5M02023/07/05(水) 18:19:52.83
嘘とヤラセしかやって来なかった連中が、ポンっと出してきた物を真に受けるのはピュアを通り越して白痴レベルだな
36名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4fbMicu602023/07/05(水) 18:22:04.95
なんか税理士とか弁護士て思ったより無能が多いんだなと思った
38名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2Z6hXF2E0
>>36
無能者同士引かれ合うんじゃないの?
42名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EMeT3cql0
>>36
弁護士は無能多いよ
相続放棄の手続きに書類渡してから3か月経って、まだですか?て聞いたら
全部の書類無くしたからもう一度送ってて言われたからね
時間が無くて頼んだのに意味無かったわ
37名無しさん@恐縮ですID:z+s6IjY302023/07/05(水) 18:30:25.20
実在する会計事務所と税理士の名前を出して音声捏造する行為を
ヤラセ動画と同じ感覚でやるはずって認識の方がよっぽど白痴に見えるけどな
39名無しさん@恐縮です2023/07/05(水) 18:45:50.17
税理士を信用する人、全員バカですwww
40名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EMeT3cql02023/07/05(水) 19:11:28.58
いちばんビックリするのが同業者の税理士っぽい人が擁護してる事なんだよな
税理士あるあるなのかね
他の仕事が忙しくて仕事しないで申告放置するのって
41名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YMKQmcAa02023/07/05(水) 19:13:15.56
えぐいて
43名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sSvOmRRQ02023/07/05(水) 19:17:00.27
何だまた嘘かよ
44名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+uJ22Fg602023/07/05(水) 19:22:54.38
事情が複雑すぎて何が何だかさっぱり分からんw
45名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YsZApx8D02023/07/05(水) 20:04:42.84
税理士が擁護するのは
普通有り得ないからだろ
これでその有り得ない事が起こった事がわかれば擁護もやめると思うが
そうじゃないのか?
46名無しさん@恐縮ですID:a4WmHSMV02023/07/05(水) 20:05:17.12
という動画を上げたので再生してみて下さい
47名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gu4xvnMO02023/07/05(水) 20:25:46.33
税理士業やってるけどこ~ゆ~鬱陶しい客は契約しないに限る
48名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9EhqEP9102023/07/05(水) 20:32:54.15
またお得意のやらせかよ
49名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BWUlW5zu02023/07/05(水) 21:13:59.01
会計事務所と税理士個人の名前を出してるからネタの可能性は限りなくゼロに近いな
嘘なら会計事務所から訴えられるのは確実
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