50名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AwOOn2Lb02023/07/05(水) 21:23:41.72
事務所なんもわるくなくて草
51名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mNldfZxO02023/07/05(水) 21:50:05.38
だから低学歴はダメなんだよ
52名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mNldfZxO02023/07/05(水) 21:53:23.94
個人事務所あるのにYoutuber事務所入る意味あんの?
54名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HlBZ7vmp0
>>52
個人より会社(法人)で税金払うほうが税率安いのよ
だから収入が多い芸能人とかyoutuberは節税対策で一旦自分の会社の収入として税金を払ってる
事務所に入る理由は今回の場合だとスポンサーがつくような案件の仲介をしてくれるからだろうね
53名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ODlwqo1F02023/07/05(水) 23:47:32.83
オレ事務所勤務だけど、資料をいつになっても出さない客はかなり不良顧客だよ
何回も何回も催促しても必ずギリギリに提出とかね
期限があるものなのに、ギリギリに出してくるってことは、「ほら、寝ずにやれよw」ってことだよな
実際、不良顧客の担当になると申告期限前は徹夜とか結構あるからね
55名無しさん@恐縮ですID:BWUlW5zu0
>>53
事務所勤務www 何のだよ
早く仕事が見つかるといいな
58名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UeWPcpuP0
>>55
会計事務所
56名無しさん@恐縮ですID:47hiQdFt02023/07/05(水) 23:54:49.55
がーどまんの法人が脱税した事実があるんだからどれだけ言い訳しようと対マルサは変わらない
対マルサには全面服従して逮捕起訴を回避しなくちゃいけないのに「俺は悪くない」と喧伝するのはマイナスでしかない
対税理士には全てが終わった後で損害賠償請求でもすればいいのに
それとも逮捕起訴は覚悟のうえでの動きなのか?
57名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wsIORxzP0
>>56
逮捕起訴前提のムーブでしょうyoutuberとして生きていくつもりなら逮捕後にどんな動画だしたって説得力ゼロだからね
逮捕される前に自己弁護して世間の味方を少しでも増やす作戦かと
76名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Gg0zfQ5+0
>>56
さすがに弁護士にも相談してるだろうし今のがーどまんの状況がどれほどなのかも教えてもらってるはず
つまりもう逮捕されると踏んだ上で動画出してると思われる
59名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eOz/Qsmq02023/07/06(木) 00:14:40.94
コロナで災害延長だ、って1年も引っ張れるわけねえだろ
気が向いたときに出せばいいわけじゃなくて個別に申請して指定受ける必要があったろ
62名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kHr/uwUV02023/07/06(木) 07:08:02.35
アホらしい
たった一年分の税金未納で国税がガサ入れするわけないだろ
そこには全く触れないで税理士との会話の録音を切り取って晒すとか卑怯すぎ
65名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gXHNRMck0
>>62
訴えたら?
YouTuberか国税庁から査察が入ったという虚偽の動画をあげてますって申告して
68名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kHr/uwUV0
>>65
ん?
一年の未納だけで査察が入るわけがない=少なくとも数年、おそらく法人化してから一度も納税していないだろうってことを言いたかったのだが
難しかったかな
64名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oZqWk0KP02023/07/06(木) 08:44:04.76
事務所に対して、何もしてれない、助けてくれないことを理由に猛烈な批判をしている時点でおそらくこの人税務について色々誤解しているというか理解していない可能性が高い。
ここまで頓珍漢な批判をしている人がスタッフからの請求書の管理や給料の支払い、経費計上用の領収書や保険資料の提出等々が出来ていたとは到底思えないんだけど。
税理士が申告しなかった、或いはできなかった理由がこの辺にあるんじゃないかな。
66名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Od4obL940
>>64
いや、税理士が繁忙期で忙しかったて非を認めて謝ってるよ
示談も持ちかけてる
音声聞くと
67名無しさん@恐縮ですID:86jd4s1B02023/07/06(木) 09:06:51.96
大人を信用しすぎた?
他人任せでなすべき責任を放置して追い込まれると喚き散らす豚の常套句だね
69名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Qoe1+yyM02023/07/06(木) 10:16:34.55
2年前
法人として契約していた会計事務所の申告処理が間に合わなかったのでコロナ災害延長を利用し先延ばしにすることに
いつまで経っても申告作業完了せず督促状等届き会計事務所と共有するが作業完了を待たされる
なおこれら状況は所属事務所社長も把握してる
遅れていた分と次期2期分の申告すると言っていた期限にも間に合わずさすがにおかしいと
税理士変えて申告する直前に国税局に入られる
会計事務所は非を認めており訴えてくれ税理士賠償保険で払うとのこと
会計事務所がキャパ以上の仕事取って遅れに遅らせた結果こうなった可能性
所属事務所社長に相談した結果普段調子のいいこと言う割に庇ってはくれず
時計売っちゃえばの一言でブチギレ決別
言われる通りにしたのにこの状況になったことで裁判の提案など
こちら側に沿ってほしかったのに暗に非を受け入れろの意で失望
動画内での言葉「一緒に戦ってほしかった」はそれを指すと思われる
2年程度で強制捜査に入るのか?
青汁王子は億超えを基準に全く変わるとのこと
コロナで野放しになっていて分23年以降かなり厳しく取り締まると予想はされていた
インボイス前の吊るし上げに使われた可能性
結果的に数か月しか使えない災害延長を悪用した点を重く見られた
70名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yiaqVoyC02023/07/06(木) 10:32:49.39
youtuber側が弁護士立てなきゃならない案件なのに俺は悪くない言うだけじゃダメだろ
なんか愚かすぎてこっちがイライラするわ
73名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Nqp6AwD/0
>>70
動画では視聴者の印象を変えるために編集した情報出してるだけで国税とのやり取りには全く違う論拠で説明して弁護士も雇ってんじゃね?
動画に上がってた最初に問題が起こった2020年の顧問料の請求書記載のサービス提供期間とか申告期間過ぎた後だったり前後関係にだいぶわかりにくい部分あるし
71名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7ZcNwyhY02023/07/06(木) 11:40:54.04
国税の査察で120人来た→動画では「200人、数十人」と言ってることがコロコロ変わる
72名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7ZcNwyhY02023/07/06(木) 11:41:42.73
905 名無しさん@恐縮です[sage] 2023/07/05(水) 15:49:27.80 ID:De+VEb1V0
こういう前回との相違点指摘のコメントが消されるらしい
Kuuu
35 分前
前回の動画 みんな広めてくれ
①今年の1月、引っ越す時に本件発覚
②何も知らなかった
③散々やってくれと頼んだが税理士が申告せずに査察に入られた
④俺は事務所に頼んだ
今回の動画
①昨年9月には把握していた
②コロナ災害延長を申請してた
③昨年9月には税理士を変えていた
④ガードマンの法人と税理士が顧問契約を締結していた。
ガードマン自身この矛盾を説明しないと誰も納得してくれないよ。
74名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Nqp6AwD/02023/07/06(木) 11:50:48.91
視聴者が無罪と騒いだって実際無罪になるわけじゃないしあくまで動画はイメージのためだわな
75名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gtFVrIhE0
>>74
どうせ最初からイメージは良くないから、逆にウェーイするかと思ってたら大真面目で驚いたわw
もっと詳細動画をバンバン上げてどうしたら防げた事なのか分かりやすく説明して欲しいわ
全く意味がわからない
77名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hNamoSuH02023/07/06(木) 12:21:32.66
税理士に言ったら即申告書を持ってきたので即申告し、次の日に銀行で納税したってのもよく分からん
納税額ってその場で決定するの?
ひょっとして税理士が持ってきたのって納付書じゃね?
79名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xBk7/3Zf0
>>77
納税額は必要事項記入すればその場で決定するよ
84名無しさん@恐縮ですID:m9z9D3z00
>>77
査察が入った時点で申告も納税も出来ない
87名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Z4o56hiI0
>>84
査察じゃ無かったとか?
101名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zRrqQN9v0
>>87
事前予告なく突然来る(ので税理士が立ち会えない)のが査察
事前に日程を調整出来るのが税務調査
78名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Kny8Kpf102023/07/06(木) 12:44:22.73
ウソと盛りと無理解と隠蔽で誰も真実が分からないヤツ
80名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+UMC78BS02023/07/06(木) 12:58:34.35
普通は税理士に任せても
報告書見て最終確認は自分でするけどな
81名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2YUE7QN302023/07/06(木) 13:14:26.41
事実が全部出てきてないよ。
1、2年の無申告で国税がここまで派手に動くことはない。
これは巨額脱税の時の動き。
税理士は普通に無能。同業者から見ても明らかに無能。
83名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qmEEl8++
>>81
そうそう、それを税理士の話にすり替えてる連中がいるね
そもそもの原因は、無知無能のくせに法人立ち上げて
収入を会社に入れて税金払えないほど使い込んでいたって事実
ここからは俺の想像だが
視聴収入1億→個人の会社→自分への給与は100万以下の役員報酬→日頃の買い物・贅沢は会社の経費として使いまくり
85名無しさん@恐縮ですID:D9typfus02023/07/06(木) 13:27:04.26
逮捕されるなら誰?
86名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OPDETn3U02023/07/06(木) 13:27:52.08
法人の経営者だろ
88名無しさん@恐縮ですID:B9x8ZO9H02023/07/06(木) 13:30:38.32
コレでドッキリだったらガチでキレるけど
89名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0oVM7qSu02023/07/06(木) 13:31:56.20
この話が本当なら事務所は悪く無いだろ
税理士が完全に悪い
93名無しさん@恐縮ですID:A0ucQ8wk0
>>89
その税理士を紹介したのが事務所なんだろ
94名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0oVM7qSu0
>>93
税理士を紹介したとしても、責任は税理士だよ
90名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NSzlvyip02023/07/06(木) 13:32:54.90
事務所関係なくて気の毒
91名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bK3RuQbt02023/07/06(木) 13:34:29.68
税理士は気に入らない素人を嵌めることが出来るって事?
何も知らなかったらプロが言ってんだしそんなもんかなって思っちゃいそうで怖いわ
92名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nmMYfJkK02023/07/06(木) 13:38:29.24
延滞税で数千万ってのは流石に嘘か用語の使い間違いだよね?
96名無しさん@恐縮ですID:91cK3SxV0
>>92
本税が億で無申告、未納なら延滞税は数千万行くらしいぞ
100名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qmEEl8++
>>96
法人税が億でも税務署の問い合わせに真摯に答えてれば国税が入ることはない
つまり分かっててやってた
95名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yp0pAceo02023/07/06(木) 13:41:25.89
信用できない職業第1位
97名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3/dKkuU302023/07/06(木) 13:51:45.45
延滞税ってのは重加算税等他のペナルティも含めてのことだろう
98名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PVg5Yauh02023/07/06(木) 13:53:34.17
120人規模の捜査が入るって、よっぽどの豪邸なんですね
俺んちなら10人で限界だな
99名無しさん@恐縮ですID:X6rHOE8Q02023/07/06(木) 13:55:03.84
がーどまんは普段から知ってる奴からすると嘘バレバレみたいなことを平気で言うから何が本当なのかまだ分からん
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