354名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DGAHlzrX02023/06/30(金) 21:20:44.75
ネットのテキストってほとんど要約ばかりだし、
要約した結果を押し付けられるのと、本読んで自分が感じた思いって
違うこともあるし、まあ脳みそとか感情発散刺激した方が絶対いいから。
要約した結果を押し付けられるのと、本読んで自分が感じた思いって
違うこともあるし、まあ脳みそとか感情発散刺激した方が絶対いいから。
355名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Iwnc9dkk02023/06/30(金) 21:22:09.12
多読もいいが200冊くらいに絞ってそれを何度も読むのがいい
356名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zRPP4er802023/06/30(金) 21:22:36.19
他人の視点で考えられたり、客観的に物を見る事が出来たり
あと、語彙力は鍛えられるかも
なんとなく本で読んだ言い回しとか覚えるし
収入関係なく本て良いよね
あと、語彙力は鍛えられるかも
なんとなく本で読んだ言い回しとか覚えるし
収入関係なく本て良いよね
359名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:p9dLUnld02023/06/30(金) 21:27:01.27
しないね
間違いなくしない
間違いなくしない
360名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:38TZUZmA02023/06/30(金) 21:28:55.50
小説ばっか読んでるアホもいるけど
361名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vU6iYfPW02023/06/30(金) 21:30:07.81
子供の頃から本読んでた子はもれなく国語のヘンサチ50以下だった
ただ卒文みたいなのはハンコで押したようにみなとお揃いのテンプレ通りができていた
ただ卒文みたいなのはハンコで押したようにみなとお揃いのテンプレ通りができていた
362名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:T4CoVdAL02023/06/30(金) 21:30:49.92
いい年して漫画ばっか読んでるやつは大抵こどおじ
363名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:oxwoplDv02023/06/30(金) 21:30:55.03
赤川次郎でもええんか？
364名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZyE8mk3C02023/06/30(金) 21:31:09.83
カント
ニーチェ
ヒトラー
ハイエク
フーコー
アタリ
と読むとまわりがアホに思えてくるよ。
ニーチェ
ヒトラー
ハイエク
フーコー
アタリ
と読むとまわりがアホに思えてくるよ。
366名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Oz4iVSsr0
>>364
わかりやすい厨二病だな
わかりやすい厨二病だな
380名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZyE8mk3C0
>>366
ちゃんと全集や思想集成読むんやで
ちゃんと全集や思想集成読むんやで
497名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:KViebx1Q0
>>380
ニーチェほど読者のレベルによって印象が変わる哲学者はいないと思う
ちくま学芸の全集などをちゃんと読むと厨二云々は見当違いの評価だとわかる
ニーチェほど読者のレベルによって印象が変わる哲学者はいないと思う
ちくま学芸の全集などをちゃんと読むと厨二云々は見当違いの評価だとわかる
545名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LOoqb95t0
>>497
ちくま文芸の全集だとナチス思想家っていう評価が正鵠を射ることになる
生成の無垢がボイムラー編纂の版を底本にしてるから
ちくま文芸の全集だとナチス思想家っていう評価が正鵠を射ることになる
生成の無垢がボイムラー編纂の版を底本にしてるから
542名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MY9H1qxT0
>>497
哲学書なんて専門家が読めばいいんだよ
そんなの読んでも、基本的な本読んでなければ何の意味もない
哲学書なんて専門家が読めばいいんだよ
そんなの読んでも、基本的な本読んでなければ何の意味もない
543名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LOoqb95t0
>>542
哲学書以上に基礎的な本ってなんだ?
ゲオルグ・カントールの論文とか?
哲学書以上に基礎的な本ってなんだ?
ゲオルグ・カントールの論文とか?
544名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MY9H1qxT0
>>543
なんだ？それ？
基本的な本って全世界共通の本のことだよ
だから本当に基礎の基礎
たとえば人魚姫は誰が書いたか即答できる？
ラプンツェルは誰が書いた？
そういうことからだよ
なんだ？それ？
基本的な本って全世界共通の本のことだよ
だから本当に基礎の基礎
たとえば人魚姫は誰が書いたか即答できる？
ラプンツェルは誰が書いた？
そういうことからだよ
546名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LOoqb95t0
>>544
人魚に関してはホメーロスじゃない？
正確には最初に書いてはいないけど
人魚に関してはホメーロスじゃない？
正確には最初に書いてはいないけど
550名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MY9H1qxT0
>>546
ブー
人魚姫はアンデルセン
ホメーロスはイリアスやオデュッセイアね
こういう話は一晩中でも出来るわ
ギリシャ悲劇は得意だし、
ブー
人魚姫はアンデルセン
ホメーロスはイリアスやオデュッセイアね
こういう話は一晩中でも出来るわ
ギリシャ悲劇は得意だし、
566名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LOoqb95t0
>>550
ギリシャ古典でもアリストファネスはかなり先見性があったよな
女だけの祭りでデウス・エクス・マキナを風刺したり、雲にソクラテス出したり
確実に後に続くユーモア小説の要素を持ち合わせてた
自分は古代ローマ時代の文芸の方が好みだけど
ギリシャ神話が文化面で重要なのは理解してる
特に古典主義美術(ルネサンス等)のイコノロジー的な読解が全くできなくなるからな、
ギリシャ古典でもアリストファネスはかなり先見性があったよな
女だけの祭りでデウス・エクス・マキナを風刺したり、雲にソクラテス出したり
確実に後に続くユーモア小説の要素を持ち合わせてた
自分は古代ローマ時代の文芸の方が好みだけど
ギリシャ神話が文化面で重要なのは理解してる
特に古典主義美術(ルネサンス等)のイコノロジー的な読解が全くできなくなるからな、
571名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MY9H1qxT0
>>566
アリストファネスは喜劇だからね
嫌いではないひ面白いけど
自分はやはりエウリピデス派だわ
アリストファネスは喜劇だからね
嫌いではないひ面白いけど
自分はやはりエウリピデス派だわ
365名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AibjY7wr02023/06/30(金) 21:31:33.94
小学生で三國志とか読んでるやついたやん
こっちはドラえもんだろと思ってるのに
ああいうすかしてる奴が嫌いだったわ
こっちはドラえもんだろと思ってるのに
ああいうすかしてる奴が嫌いだったわ
367名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Oz4iVSsr0
>>365
ゲームかなんかでハマっただけだと思うんだが
ゲームかなんかでハマっただけだと思うんだが
400名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:L+kfLnJ50
>>367
そういや三国志と信長の野望やる為に歴史をめっちゃ調べたわw
そういや三国志と信長の野望やる為に歴史をめっちゃ調べたわw
368名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WRR8FsDM02023/06/30(金) 21:37:39.74
そもそも読書家がこんな奴の配信見ないからなあ
369名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5YIyJRY902023/06/30(金) 21:37:57.06
小説読めない人って読書人とわかりあえないよなw
彼らは誰かのために読んでるわけでも賢くなるために読んでるわけでもない一部を除いて
彼らは誰かのために読んでるわけでも賢くなるために読んでるわけでもない一部を除いて
370名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Y6UFW/mg02023/06/30(金) 21:38:28.11
あの並べてる本、読んでないくせに
371名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Dxcbfiem02023/06/30(金) 21:38:31.68
読書好き無職で収入0円の俺が答えです
372名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pXgLx7Ly02023/06/30(金) 21:39:10.43
これは当たってる
373名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1Ew1i6wq02023/06/30(金) 21:39:36.17
ラノベしか読まないのに読書家側のスタンスで書き込んでるのは何割いるだろう
389名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Oz4iVSsr0
>>373
どうでもいいことだと思うけどね
読書家ってのも何となく虫の好かない言い回しではあるかな
だったら映画家でもゲーム家でもいいだろうと
どうでもいいことだと思うけどね
読書家ってのも何となく虫の好かない言い回しではあるかな
だったら映画家でもゲーム家でもいいだろうと
374名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NAipNJGN02023/06/30(金) 21:40:36.49
読書も大事だけど流行りのアニメや漫画見るのも大事
時代が反映されているからね
古い本は普遍性は担保されている利点はある
時代が反映されているからね
古い本は普遍性は担保されている利点はある
375名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0PnoC7U602023/06/30(金) 21:40:45.24
なんでデータもないのに因果関係があるってわかるの？
376名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:qRBsOGke02023/06/30(金) 21:40:56.22
日本の最近の文学全然知らんから文學界買って読んだらクソつまらんくて雑誌破りそうになった
377名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:N0SpTUWZ02023/06/30(金) 21:41:32.44
本は活字も漫画もたくさん読んだけど45歳年収やっと500万の無能リーマンや
文系の限界だね
文系の限界だね
411名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CbJzuWB30
>>377
平均以上もらってるから比例してるに当たってるじゃん
平均以上もらってるから比例してるに当たってるじゃん
378名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DGAHlzrX02023/06/30(金) 21:41:41.87
読書家って名乗るならカフカの城を読破してレポート書いてからにしてくれるか？
379名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:38TZUZmA02023/06/30(金) 21:42:33.08
金持ちアッピールしてる社長達ほど本なんて読まなそう
読んでも幻冬舎
読んでも幻冬舎
382名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vU6iYfPW02023/06/30(金) 21:43:36.44
風俗上で本読んでるのはほぼひゃくぱーキチゲエだったね
384名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rIOrohvD02023/06/30(金) 21:44:44.16
当てはまる人は多いとは思う
386名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eC9f8SH/02023/06/30(金) 21:45:24.01
本を読む最大のメリットだったのは、国語の勉強しなくてよいこと。他の勉強に時間を振り向けられる。
388名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:L5mBXnns02023/06/30(金) 21:45:34.61
一句できた
本読んで
あげくのはてが
イカサマ師
390名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rIOrohvD02023/06/30(金) 21:46:38.97
イミダス読んでたなあ
カメダスとかパロディみたいなの持ってる奴もいた
カメダスとかパロディみたいなの持ってる奴もいた
391名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DSvL+qm502023/06/30(金) 21:47:32.21
素で言っているのだろうけど親の所得に従属するだろ、読書量は。
結局は親の所得で子の所得が決まる。
結局は親の所得で子の所得が決まる。
393名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DGAHlzrX0
>>391
貧乏でも本読めるだろ、地域の図書館読破した？
貧乏でも本読めるだろ、地域の図書館読破した？
392名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rIOrohvD02023/06/30(金) 21:47:54.42
ライトノベルって言葉は知ってるけど読んだ事ないな
どういう定義なんだろ
どういう定義なんだろ
407名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Oz4iVSsr0
>>392
そっちのレーベルで出してる挿絵が入ってるやつだったと思うが
自分も実際には読んだことがないので何とも
そっちのレーベルで出してる挿絵が入ってるやつだったと思うが
自分も実際には読んだことがないので何とも
409名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UFj2R8fW0
>>407
オバロとか転スラ知らないの？
オバロとか転スラ知らないの？
424名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Oz4iVSsr0
>>409
名前だけは聞いたことがある
名前だけは聞いたことがある
433名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+iiNwnQd0
>>424
異世界転生系や、悪役令嬢系や、追放ざまぁ系とか色々あるけど楽しいよ
異世界転生系や、悪役令嬢系や、追放ざまぁ系とか色々あるけど楽しいよ
395名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aLQiNMlZ02023/06/30(金) 21:49:59.96
アインシュタインの相対性理論を読み切った事のない奴は
相対的に非科学カルトに捕まりやすい分家馬鹿になり易い
相対的に非科学カルトに捕まりやすい分家馬鹿になり易い
396名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+W0irdsk02023/06/30(金) 21:50:14.32
漫画はめっちゃ読んだ
397名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vU6iYfPW02023/06/30(金) 21:50:25.28
小６教室で、図書室から本を借りだし冊数競争グラフで
クラスで一番だった男児は
忘れ物ナンバーワン男児でもあり
クラスで一番だった男児は
忘れ物ナンバーワン男児でもあり
おそらく高校進学できなかった
あるいは鼻先と苦春とかだっただろう
詩作でも一切評価されてなかった
398名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:krIsx97k0
>>397
実は借りるだけで読んでなかった説
実は借りるだけで読んでなかった説
399名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MeTYhJa702023/06/30(金) 21:51:40.13
13日の金曜日といえば？で知性や教養が分かる
ジェイソンかテンプル騎士団か
ジェイソンかテンプル騎士団か
401名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+W0irdsk0
>>399
ジェイソンしか知らん
ジェイソンしか知らん
406名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5YIyJRY90
>>399
ダ・ヴィンチコードで出てきたなーくらいだなw
ダ・ヴィンチコードで出てきたなーくらいだなw
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