50名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TqVc48kc02023/06/30(金) 18:11:58.72
本たくさん読んでも感情の抑えの効かないYouTuberになるならあんまり時間使う価値感じないかなぁ…
51名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HXzuPvrd02023/06/30(金) 18:12:31.67
小学生の時に江戸川乱歩の少年探偵団全部読んだけど
小説って古い屋敷の構造を文字で書かれたって
全然わからないよね
映像で作った方が圧倒的にわかりやすいのに
あと知識系も本読むより
ディスカバリーチャンネルとかみた方がいいじゃん
小説って古い屋敷の構造を文字で書かれたって
全然わからないよね
映像で作った方が圧倒的にわかりやすいのに
あと知識系も本読むより
ディスカバリーチャンネルとかみた方がいいじゃん
88名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:j1LAUffK0
>>51
乱歩は推理に関係するなら
わりとイラスト付きで建物の構造説明する事多くなかったっけ？
乱歩は推理に関係するなら
わりとイラスト付きで建物の構造説明する事多くなかったっけ？
105名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HXzuPvrd0
>>88
そんな詳しいイラストとかなかったよ
屋根裏から外に逃げるとかどういう構造してるんだよって
思うけどストーリーに関係ないから読み飛ばしてたし
そんな詳しいイラストとかなかったよ
屋根裏から外に逃げるとかどういう構造してるんだよって
思うけどストーリーに関係ないから読み飛ばしてたし
381名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:j1LAUffK0
>>105
三角館の恐怖とか
よく使ってた密室殺人で部屋ごとエレベーターで移動して下に全く同じ部屋があるトリックじゃイラストいくつか入ってた記憶があるな
三角館の恐怖とか
よく使ってた密室殺人で部屋ごとエレベーターで移動して下に全く同じ部屋があるトリックじゃイラストいくつか入ってた記憶があるな
53名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZIc/zVsP02023/06/30(金) 18:12:33.61
なろうしか読まないで大人になった奴が高収入になるとはとても思えんのやが
まあそんな奴いないか
まあそんな奴いないか
54名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pn6XE1yg02023/06/30(金) 18:14:07.33
親に怒られるほど本読んでたけど効果なし！！はい嘘
58名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IuKPLTcx0
>>54
読書とは別のところに原因がある
そう考えたことはないか
読書とは別のところに原因がある
そう考えたことはないか
55名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kkmt/Qyo02023/06/30(金) 18:14:16.85
本結構読んでたけど年収330万だよ
56名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XyRk5WD702023/06/30(金) 18:14:23.30
読書の虫だけどずっと年収350万だったぞ
新卒でどの仕事について経験積むかが年収アップに繋がる
読書関係無し
新卒でどの仕事について経験積むかが年収アップに繋がる
読書関係無し
57名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:r2pR/RsA02023/06/30(金) 18:15:11.01
図書館がイイ！
59名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/z/aNvkh02023/06/30(金) 18:15:13.51
勉強ができないと同級生にマスコミや広告会社に行った人もいないから
ネットには真実がある！なんて言って電通陰謀論を信じちゃうw
広告代理店の仕組みを知っていれば電通のゴリ押しなんてアホだとわかるのに
どういうビジネスモデルなんだよw
芸能事務所との区別もつかない
なんか権力がありそうだからと妄想を始める
ネットには真実がある！なんて言って電通陰謀論を信じちゃうw
広告代理店の仕組みを知っていれば電通のゴリ押しなんてアホだとわかるのに
どういうビジネスモデルなんだよw
芸能事務所との区別もつかない
なんか権力がありそうだからと妄想を始める
60名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OGsonY2202023/06/30(金) 18:15:21.11
これは学歴社会だからそうなるだけ
読書と勉強ってほとんど同じ行為ですからね
読書と勉強ってほとんど同じ行為ですからね
ただ、これからは違うでしょうね
61名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lpGlDGR902023/06/30(金) 18:15:28.45
本って素敵
62名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MUv/atso02023/06/30(金) 18:15:33.47
文章を読んでいるのがネット時代の現代人では
64名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QjAtc/mh02023/06/30(金) 18:16:05.75
本読まない奴は確かにバカが多い
66名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ML7MtE/e02023/06/30(金) 18:17:21.19
朝日新聞読むべきやな！
67名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UlnNzDF202023/06/30(金) 18:17:23.77
子供の頃から少年ジャンプを隅々まで読んだけど収入は一向に増えない
81名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HXzuPvrd0
>>67
子供って漫画も内容が難しいと適当に読んでたりするよね
大人になってJoJo読み返したけど
全く覚えてなかったもん
子供って漫画も内容が難しいと適当に読んでたりするよね
大人になってJoJo読み返したけど
全く覚えてなかったもん
69名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:B8EWRF4a02023/06/30(金) 18:17:42.30
本って何を読めば良いの？文学作品なのか自己啓発本とかを指してるの？
70名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6Q9I5sDg02023/06/30(金) 18:17:47.32
よく子どもに読み聞かせをするようにという話を聞くが、うちの子供は本を開いたら閉じる子で、ずっと嫌がっている。
ADHD ASD LDでとても親の自分が困っている。
ADHD ASD LDでとても親の自分が困っている。
75名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Q+SFEYOl0
>>70
そういう子は動画教材やPCやタブレットのソフトウェアのような動きのあるものなら興味を示す場合もあるので試してみるといいの
そういう子は動画教材やPCやタブレットのソフトウェアのような動きのあるものなら興味を示す場合もあるので試してみるといいの
それもダメだと手が無いかもね
71名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cBO4bEoj02023/06/30(金) 18:18:24.99
そもそも頭悪いと本の内容が理解出来なくてつまらんだろ
頭悪いから稼ぎは少ないって事でしょ
頭悪いから稼ぎは少ないって事でしょ
72名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HXzuPvrd02023/06/30(金) 18:18:25.49
作文の全国大会で優勝するような
小説家顔負けの小学生って本読みまくってるわけじゃなくて
歌や絵と一緒で才能だよね
小説家顔負けの小学生って本読みまくってるわけじゃなくて
歌や絵と一緒で才能だよね
82名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Q+SFEYOl0
>>72
それはそうなんだけど遺伝的な寄与率はそこまで高く無いよ、特に小学生なら
数学とかは年齢があがるほど遺伝の寄与率が上がるけど、国語はそうでも無い、つまり生活経験や努力でカバーできる
それはそうなんだけど遺伝的な寄与率はそこまで高く無いよ、特に小学生なら
数学とかは年齢があがるほど遺伝の寄与率が上がるけど、国語はそうでも無い、つまり生活経験や努力でカバーできる
89名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xomScJVM0
>>82
読む訓練に比べて書く（話す）訓練の方が不足してんだよな
英語もそうだと思うけど
読む訓練に比べて書く（話す）訓練の方が不足してんだよな
英語もそうだと思うけど
94名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HXzuPvrd0
>>82
>>85
作文の内容じゃなくて文章の上手さってことね
>>85
作文の内容じゃなくて文章の上手さってことね
85名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xomScJVM0
>>72
読むのと書くのはそりゃ違うでしょ
読むのと書くのはそりゃ違うでしょ
94名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HXzuPvrd0
>>82
>>85
作文の内容じゃなくて文章の上手さってことね
>>85
作文の内容じゃなくて文章の上手さってことね
73名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:7m405/D802023/06/30(金) 18:18:31.48
◯◯◯の◯◯です
74名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+AlUguxq02023/06/30(金) 18:18:42.29
本は読んでおいて損は無い
読む癖をつけておいたほうがいい
読む癖をつけておいたほうがいい
76名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UHutQvDX02023/06/30(金) 18:19:45.73
矢沢永吉はミュージシャンだけど
高校時分でカーネギーとか読んでた
自分も成りあがりというベストセラー出した
自己啓発本の継承だ
儲かったピークはこの頃かバブルの頃かな
高校時分でカーネギーとか読んでた
自分も成りあがりというベストセラー出した
自己啓発本の継承だ
儲かったピークはこの頃かバブルの頃かな
248名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dBa4m63s0
>>76
語り下ろしでまとめたのは糸井だがな
語り下ろしでまとめたのは糸井だがな
>>86
儲からなかったらやらないとは言ってたような
86名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HXzuPvrd0
>>76
矢沢って金持ちになりたかっただけで
別にミュージシャンじゃなくてもよかったんだろうね
矢沢って金持ちになりたかっただけで
別にミュージシャンじゃなくてもよかったんだろうね
248名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:dBa4m63s0
>>76
語り下ろしでまとめたのは糸井だがな
語り下ろしでまとめたのは糸井だがな
>>86
儲からなかったらやらないとは言ってたような
77名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ML7MtE/e02023/06/30(金) 18:19:50.15
中学ぐらいまでの国語の成績は本読んだ量に比例する気はする
78名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:A+d1ykOL02023/06/30(金) 18:20:11.73
本宮先生は活字は全然読まないって自伝の「天然まんが家」で書いてたっけ
79名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xomScJVM02023/06/30(金) 18:20:22.91
そりゃ本を読むのは国語の訓練だから年収だって高くなるだろよ
でも無理矢理読ませても意味ないからなぁ
でも無理矢理読ませても意味ないからなぁ
80名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Nb5k1YGl02023/06/30(金) 18:20:25.09
年収200万
30代に入ってからアニメに飽きて読書にハマった
図書館に行くと面白い
30代に入ってからアニメに飽きて読書にハマった
図書館に行くと面白い
最近面白いと思った本
オルガズムの科学
もっと（ドーパミンの本）
大往生したけりゃ医療と関わるな
108名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gL1ow4ad0
>>100
>>80
>>80
83名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OGsonY2202023/06/30(金) 18:20:58.48
読書＝好きな本を読んで理解する
勉強＝教科書や参考書を読んで理解する
勉強＝教科書や参考書を読んで理解する
ほぼ同じです
117名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Nb5k1YGl0
>>83
読書は慣れれば楽というか楽しいけど勉強はいくらやっても嫌いなままだったな
だから成績も常に平均よりちょい下だった
読書は慣れれば楽というか楽しいけど勉強はいくらやっても嫌いなままだったな
だから成績も常に平均よりちょい下だった
127名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OGsonY220
>>117
それは君が勉強のやり方を間違ったんだな
勉強と読書は同じと考えればよかったのさ
それは君が勉強のやり方を間違ったんだな
勉強と読書は同じと考えればよかったのさ
好きな本なら読める人と、本自体を読むのが苦手な人
どちらが教科書を読める確率が高いか？
142名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Nb5k1YGl0
>>127
まぁ子供の頃は読書自体嫌いだったけどね
正確にはゲームにハマりすぎて読書の醍醐味を知らなかっただけかもだけど
何故か30代突入してゲームやアニメが無性につまらなく感じてそのエネルギーが読書に向いてる
まぁ子供の頃は読書自体嫌いだったけどね
正確にはゲームにハマりすぎて読書の醍醐味を知らなかっただけかもだけど
何故か30代突入してゲームやアニメが無性につまらなく感じてそのエネルギーが読書に向いてる
84名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aBYaXY0x02023/06/30(金) 18:21:12.20
この人は何でも金だな
90名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:B6jpHCIq02023/06/30(金) 18:23:10.06
うぜえw
91名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NP+haRJG02023/06/30(金) 18:23:24.56
はいはい
92名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:H2npXVK702023/06/30(金) 18:23:39.93
むちゃくちゃ本読むけど収入0です
100名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Nb5k1YGl0
>>92
収入アップに繋がる本は十中八九ビジネス本
ビジネス、情報は水ものである
「ビジネス書講義」という本は面白い
世の大企業のリーマンの移り変わりを分析してる
収入アップに繋がる本は十中八九ビジネス本
ビジネス、情報は水ものである
「ビジネス書講義」という本は面白い
世の大企業のリーマンの移り変わりを分析してる
108名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gL1ow4ad0
>>100
>>80
>>80
93名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AOKrYxEI02023/06/30(金) 18:24:14.68
今の子は短い動画が主流だし本なんて何時間もかかるようなものは嫌うだろうな
95名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XbptTkhb02023/06/30(金) 18:25:23.60
サイコパスと収入のほうが相関強いと思うの
96名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IuKPLTcx02023/06/30(金) 18:26:01.92
読書するひとは年収が低いとしても破綻しないタイプだとおもうよ
97名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ibSqaEEg02023/06/30(金) 18:26:15.32
関係ある、ならわかるけど「比例」は違うだろ
98名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eTo2N8XR02023/06/30(金) 18:26:41.92
本を読んでも人間性は養えないと自称読書家ほど感じる
情報化社会以前のレガシーの手段でしょ
情報化社会以前のレガシーの手段でしょ
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