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【MLB】古内義明氏 藤浪晋太郎の電撃トレードに 「大谷選手はまだ1度もプレーオフに… 藤浪選手は1年目で」

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1冬月記者 ★ID:ki3Ns/3y92023/07/21(金) 00:14:04.39
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/84a63423b666b8575237bdab6dbb9332ad60a182

古内義明氏 藤浪晋太郎の電撃移籍に「大谷選手はまだ1度もプレーオフに…藤浪選手は1年目で」

MLBアナリストの古内義明氏(55)が20日、TBS系「ひるおび!」(月~金曜前10・25)に出演。21日(現地時間20日)にオリオールズにトレード移籍することが分かったアスレチックスの藤浪晋太郎投手(29)について言及した。

オリオールズは19日、地元ボルティモア(メリーランド州)でナ・リーグ西地区首位のドジャースを8―5で下して58勝37敗。「7番・三塁」のルイス・ウリアス(29)が3打点を記録して3試合ぶりに白星を挙げた。

勝率は・611となり、前日までア・リーグ東地区で首位だったレイズがレンジャーズに1―5で敗れて60勝39敗(勝率・606)となったために、ゲーム差なしながらオリオールズが首位に立った。

古内氏は「アスレチックスは71敗しています。オリオールズはア・リーグ東地区の1位になったんですよ」と言い、「それで藤浪選手は防御率が14点台から(直近16試合は)2点台(2・45)に代わったんですよね。そのピッチャーをクローザーにつなぐセットアッパーとして欲しいと」と説明。

そのうえで「大谷選手と藤浪選手は同級生なんですよね。大谷選手はまだ1度もプレーオフに行ったことがない。藤浪選手は今年オリオールズに移籍した関係で1年目で行ける可能性が高まった」と話した。

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20名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UGei6/ze0
>>1
古内、お前は勉強不足や
藤浪のERAは8.57な
WARは-1.9
23名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5AfWEsEE0
>>20
また東京人の印象操作なんだな笑
29名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LU76G2QV0
>>23
こんなバサ丸だしの猿でも東京出身ならテレビで専門家ズラできちゃうんだよ
107名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wFZPIb0s0
>>20
文章よめてるのか?
防御率14点台から7月は2点台に減ったって言ってるだけで、トータルの防御率には言及してない。
102名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JHnEqxbM0
>>1
イチロー,佐々木がWS出た事ないのに田口なんかがチャンピオンリングを持ってるからなぁ~、たしかに田口はWSで活躍はしたけど。

こればっかりは運命というか…藤浪チャンピオンリング保持者になっちゃったりして(笑)

106名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EiOT4fd40
>>102
まあ新庄が持ってるくらいだからなあ
109名無しさん@恐縮ですID:k7HK6rKb0
>>106
新庄取ってないやろ
108名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vX4hkbN50
>>1
藤浪選手は序盤だけが酷かったなという評価で一年を終えれればいいな。せっかく争えるチームに移籍したのだから、デッカい仕事をやり遂げて欲しい
136名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WkSfVmHJ0
>>1
さすが松井秀喜提灯記者の思考って感じだな
2名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vmCAsvAS02023/07/21(金) 00:15:09.06
節穴リスト
3名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kRsKygb502023/07/21(金) 00:15:33.03
投げるだけなら藤浪の方が上だから仕方ないわな
4名無しさん@恐縮です2023/07/21(金) 00:16:46.80
プレーオフに行ってチャンピオンリング持ってるのはカスしかいない

伊良部、松坂、岡島、田口、井口、松井・・・

67名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fEhv5iKM0
>>4
松坂松井は歴代最高ラペルやろが
99名無しさん@恐縮ですID:c3Fupqbg0
>>67
文字すらマトモに書けてない在日チョンwww
濁点半濁点の分別が出来ないのってまんま朝鮮人韓国人特有だからなwwww
100名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oSXoVues0
>>99
在日じゃなくて、韓国で日本語を覚えたチョンでは
113名無しさん@恐縮ですID:c3Fupqbg0
>>100
まあいずれにせよチョンだろうね
半島のチョンか在日帰化チョン

別の日本人を引き合いに出して無理やり比較して
どっちもdisり合いさせ日本人同士で相互憎悪させる

こういう方向へ誘導同調させ日本人を叩く書き込みをするように洗脳ステマする
この手口がチョン特有だから

韓国人選手を引き合いに出すとモロバレで目立つから
そういう書き込みはせずひたすら別の日本人を使ってdisる

チョンどもこの手口が徹底してる
そんで>>67は日本語がド下手糞でモロバレ

115名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qcM5Qs7N0
>>113
だよね~こうやってチョンに糖質するのがお前ら在日チョンコロー カキコすらすな!
70名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mJaz6aoO0
>>4
新庄もいるぞ
71名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mJaz6aoO0
>>4
上原もな
>>69
同じタイミングでアメリカに行った新庄は1年目で
73名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CpXtNaBl0
>>71
新庄剛志は獲ってない
Wシリは2年目
7戦目ラス2打者だった
5名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lMryXhsb02023/07/21(金) 00:17:10.30
大谷はチームをプレーオフに連れていくことができない
藤浪はチームをプレーオフに連れていくことができる
6名無しさん@恐縮です2023/07/21(金) 00:17:18.35
イチロー、ダル、マー、野茂、大谷はリングなしか、こっちの方がええわw
7名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kXKFdeX202023/07/21(金) 00:18:36.64
幕末明治の美女30選 その輝きは150年後も変わらない(画像集)
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8名無しさん@恐縮ですID:g27iJdCI02023/07/21(金) 00:18:42.13
フジの方が上だな
9名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3UGsCVm+02023/07/21(金) 00:18:46.67
藤浪「大谷ぃぃ~♪チャンピオンズリング見したるで~wwwwwwwwww」
10名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CHCkIMtt02023/07/21(金) 00:19:23.78
まぁそんなもんだろ
巡り合わせだ
11名無しさん@恐縮ですID:U1/bRt/J02023/07/21(金) 00:20:01.01
え、藤浪トレードに出されたの?
アスレチックス最高峰の成績を叩き出してたはずなのになぜ…
89名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oSXoVues0
>>11
アスレチックスは今シーズンは捨てて、数年後に勝てるチームを作ってるからだよ
だから即戦力の藤浪と交換で将来性のある若手を獲得した
これで年俸も節約できる
チームの順位も下位なので、ドラフトで優先的に好選手を獲得できる
119名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uis0xlsR0
>>89
付け加えると今の成績は確変でそんなに続かないと思われてるんだろうな。
157名無しさん@恐縮ですID:y0ftyzkY0
>>11
「なのに」の使い方が間違ってる

活躍したから「こそ」、ほかが欲しがったんだよ

12名無しさん@恐縮ですID:35yyNNxm02023/07/21(金) 00:20:09.64
出てから言え
13名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bAbfUzsz02023/07/21(金) 00:22:12.07
アスレチックスみたいに何回炎上しても投げさせてもらえるほど甘くないんじゃね?
14名無しさん@恐縮ですID:z5Utoa5U02023/07/21(金) 00:22:49.11
ディズニーが買収してオオタニサン残留でポストシーズンへ
47名無しさん@恐縮ですID:d5E8Lmkf0
>>14
エンゼルスは去年、華僑グループで決まりかかったが、
金額が高すぎて折り合いがつかなかった
15名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EADRh2V802023/07/21(金) 00:24:58.91
大谷は競合に移籍したら活躍できなくなる可能性が高い
辺鄙な田舎球団で自由にできてる結果
68名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8D/1NFlT0
>>15
マジでそれはある
エンゼルスぐらいのチームで好きにやらせてもらう方がいい
ヤンキースなんて行ったら二刀流とか絶対無理だし
182名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gMQ08an00
>>15
移籍直後に故障して活動したの四年目とかだよな
日本からの広告利益がなきゃLAAにも在籍てきてないだろ
16名無しさん@恐縮ですID:g/SIsCiz02023/07/21(金) 00:25:50.78
取材しに行かないMLBアナリストwww
17名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G3F9TCUF02023/07/21(金) 00:29:39.43
んな甘いわけないじゃん
プレーオフでちょっとでも下手こいたら
クビ確定だぞ
27名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jw7dInvs0
>>17
そうなっても「アスレチックスでも使いこなせた選手なのに、使いこなせないチームが悪い」となる
藤浪は無敵や
18名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CRGH9bUD02023/07/21(金) 00:31:36.98
オークランドだからあの使い方されてただけでボルチモアでは同じような起用はないだろ
19名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TKXNPGE402023/07/21(金) 00:34:49.36
また藤浪が大谷に勝った
21名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VHAwo5Hv0
>>19
東京出身だから誠也はバカにしないんだよなコイツ
汚いやつだわ
22名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Gw4unSbT02023/07/21(金) 00:36:58.07
古内って誰だよ?
イチローに相手にされなかったカスか?
24名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DKzHnxhS02023/07/21(金) 00:38:31.13
153キロのフォーク投げれるのは世界中で藤浪だけだからな。
25名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vDlf3CS902023/07/21(金) 00:39:21.32
入団前年と退団翌年に優勝した藤田平
26名無しさん@恐縮ですID:O/D7mpS102023/07/21(金) 00:40:10.70
東京人は嘘ついてズルしようとするから記者とかには絶対しちゃいけない
125名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uis0xlsR0
>>26
記者なんて「ウソ・大げさ・まぎらわしい」しか書かないけど?
28名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7XD9tO5y02023/07/21(金) 00:40:56.17
FUJI「チミもリアルな俺を目指して頑張りたまえ」
30名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q9umsahB02023/07/21(金) 00:48:38.37
エンゼルス選んだ大谷がバカなんだから仕方なくね?
33名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4nUbj5P10
>>30
トラウトはバカなんて言われてないぞ古内!
プレーオフなんてWARマイナスでも出れるから価値なんてないわ
31名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Oe/ENl3I02023/07/21(金) 00:49:00.10
大谷加入後エンゼルスは全シーズン負け越し
32名無しさん@恐縮ですID:v/iI0dzY02023/07/21(金) 00:50:18.66
また14点から始まるんだな
34名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tge1YcFe02023/07/21(金) 00:51:06.31
世界のスーパースター大谷さんの成績は、
全試合ピッチャー先発で全て3球三振
打つのは全打席場外ホームラン
こんな感じじゃないの?
マスゴミさん毎日朝から晩まで報道してるんだし
35名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4nUbj5P10
>>34
トンキンには報道する内容がないから仕方ないね
36名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5uTcswRQ02023/07/21(金) 00:53:16.46
プレーオフもワールドシリーズも選手本人には重要だろうが、見る側はアメリカで勝とうが負けようがそこまで関心ないな

昨年の優勝チームさえも知らん奴がほとんどだし、余程のファン以外はこれまで何人も日本人選手が優勝してきたが、覚えていてもシリーズMVPの松井程度

要は個人タイトルでいいんよ
今シーズンの大谷ならHR王
藤浪なら10勝で歴代最低防御率を期待したい

37名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tH6QC8t602023/07/21(金) 00:53:23.26
プレーオフのときに枠に残ってないとな
38名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rIAemuPf02023/07/21(金) 00:53:28.36
確変期間中に転売か
39名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4TKkXUAJ02023/07/21(金) 00:55:11.34
負けてる展開で投げてる試合が多いから、勝ちゲームで投げ出した場合にどうなるかだろうな
41名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QhQM/vyp0
>>39
どっちかというと勝ち運めちゃくちゃある投手よ
42名無しさん@恐縮ですID:g2ReT1ug0
>>41
すでに8敗してるんだぞ
どこをどう見たら勝ち運があるんだよ
127名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uis0xlsR0
>>42
防御率8.57なのに5勝8敗なんて勝ち運有るとしか言えんでしょ。
勝率.276のチームで。
40名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HWjUkIEL02023/07/21(金) 00:56:50.84
ワールドシリーズで160km 顔面4球が見れる
43名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gbJMacU502023/07/21(金) 01:24:32.39
アスレチックスだからずっと試合出られる契約だったんだろ?
移籍したらあの契約どうなるの?
59名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TiFc9ZsP0
>>43
本当にそれがあるならシーズン途中に放出しないって契約があってもいいはず
だから無かったんじゃないか
79名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/L9rhYs60
>>59
契約は不利益にならないように結ぶもの
この場合藤波の同意があればいいだけ。同意権条項でしょう
44名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vkYXBYa102023/07/21(金) 01:28:30.15
ワールドシリーズ第1戦の1回に藤浪が投げたら
その後相手のバッターみんな調子崩すんじゃね
46名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jw7dInvs0
>>44
オープナーするだけで全戦全勝待ったなし
45名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nG1I33dK02023/07/21(金) 01:30:39.36
実質は半年程じゃないの
48名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CRGH9bUD02023/07/21(金) 01:33:36.31
一時期イチローにへばりついてて勘違いして俳優になるとか言い出した吉田とかいう野郎はいま何してんだ?
49名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mEK5vVJZ02023/07/21(金) 01:51:21.69
ワールドチャンピオンの藤浪、ノンタイトル大谷
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