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【ハッシー】元プロ棋士 橋本崇載容疑者を逮捕 元妻らへの殺人未遂疑い

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101カイトID:AkqS7tyb02023/07/21(金) 02:51:00.32
そんなクワマン(桑野信義さん)自身も過去に強盗被害に経験あり。
102名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oQo1Xh1902023/07/21(金) 02:51:25.00
完全統失じゃないのこの人?
しかも危険なタイプの
一生精神病院ぶち込んでおくべき
103カイトID:AkqS7tyb02023/07/21(金) 02:52:53.51
いしだ壱成もまたメンタル体調ズタボロやね、破傷風発症らしい。
105名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7w5qEIIL02023/07/21(金) 02:54:16.98
インタビュー記事の読んだから何考えていたのかはわかる
そして裁判所の親権の考え方もおかしいと思う

その反面、殺人未遂の容疑までいってしまったことで精神的に不安定とみなされて親権取れなかった根拠の一つに大義を与えてしまったよね
この一手は悪手だったわ、投了

109名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7w5qEIIL0
>>105
インタビュー記事のはググれば出てくる、よく書かれている
106名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LssCXdta02023/07/21(金) 02:54:41.93
ハッシーここまで堕ちたのか…
これ実刑は当然として何年食らうんだ?

執行猶予中な上に凶器有りで嫁と父も怪我してるしムショ10年コース?
それとも精神疾患ありそうなレベルだし減刑されたりするんかね

111名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oymI3uph0
>>106
前回の名誉毀損(1年6ヶ月)+住居不法侵入+殺人未遂or傷害

懲役5年は絶対に食らうだろうし最悪10年もありえる

117名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eQkCNgbp0
>>111
悪質性はあるけど軽症だし流石に実刑10年はないと思う
129名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5sYVkznB0
>>117
ただの殺人未遂事件で被害者が軽傷なら1番軽い5年かもしれんけど
名誉毀損の裁判で負けた元嫁に対して実家に侵入して凶器の鍬まで用意してる計画的な犯行だから10年ありそう
ただでさえ執行猶予中の再犯はどの罪でも重く判決出るから
134名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7w5qEIIL0
>>129
手ぶらで訪問していたのならまだしもな
141名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LssCXdta0
>>111
>>117
気になって判例みた感じ10年以上だと相手が重傷だったり
余罪重なってたり、計画性が高かったりってパターンが多いのね

5年以上10年未満って感じか

147名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7w5qEIIL0
>>141
くわ持ってなら計画性はあるだろ、あと余罪も
108名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qtXjGstu02023/07/21(金) 02:56:11.37
流石刑務所の将棋大会では優勝出来るだろう
110名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eQkCNgbp02023/07/21(金) 02:56:55.45
高齢と思われる父親に取り押さえられるって本気で暴れてないのかな
122名無しさん@恐縮ですID:h2AYudsy0
>>110
本気で暴れてる
クワを頭めがけて打ち下ろしてるし、元嫁が胸に怪我

凶器を頭、顔、胸めがけて攻撃することは殺意ありとみなす十分な証拠

390名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9Ase/uAa0
>>122
>クワを頭めがけて打ち下ろしてるし、元嫁が胸に怪我

これ精神的ショックは計り知れないぞ
事ここに及んでも、まだ橋本に同情や肩入れする奴がいる事にビックリ

112カイトID:AkqS7tyb02023/07/21(金) 02:57:27.63
その5年が長いんだよな、精神病の人には特に。
113名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QC0W/a3L02023/07/21(金) 02:57:31.74
橋本さん?弱いよね
地裁、高裁、最高裁と隙だらけだよね
114名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Sw1CELOl02023/07/21(金) 02:57:48.09
人気棋士の1人だったのに藤井くんとどこで差が付いたのか
123名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7w5qEIIL0
>>114
常識の差じゃね
115名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pZaA0vZs02023/07/21(金) 02:59:13.08
「くわ」ってひらがなで書いてあるから
農具の鍬じゃなくて
植物の桑で殴ったんじゃない?報道される事も
踏まえたギャグで。
167名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sQjYxRVv0
>>115
どうすればこんな寒いことかけるんだろう
116名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7w5qEIIL02023/07/21(金) 02:59:13.89
将棋一本で今これなら、この先将来なんてないよね
くだらんことしたわ
119名無しさん@恐縮ですID:DUohLNXc02023/07/21(金) 03:00:06.05
なんかスレ伸びてるけどそんなにこの橋本って有名なの?
知らなさすぎて全く興味湧かないわ
120名無しさん@恐縮ですID:V4pLwqfU02023/07/21(金) 03:00:30.06
病院行きだろうけど薬が効くタイプじゃなさそうだよな
自己愛性なんちゃらいうやつじゃないのか
127名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iFblQ3KH0
>>120
躁鬱がありそう
121名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6idUm/+t02023/07/21(金) 03:00:47.44
この人は病院に入れないといけないんだと思う
この事件は防げたのかもしれない
222名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hQUwXcyZ0
>>75
130 恋する名無しさん [sage] 2022/11/08(火) 06:30:17.11 ID:40nOCX2/a
>>121
きちんと断る→「ケンカを半端なく売る断り方しやがってギャオオオン!!」
低姿勢で優しく断る→「思わせぶりにさんざん引っ張りやがってギャオオオン!!」

返事がNOである限り、異常な執着と汚言症(どちらも自閉症スペクトラムの症状)を見事に発揮しながら他責他罰してくる発達やら統失やらの男は凄く多いから無理ぽ

124名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iFblQ3KH02023/07/21(金) 03:02:00.41
橋本元棋士は元嫁に執着してストーカーしていたが
実際のところ子どもには全く執着がなさそうで
子どものことは元嫁に戻ってきてほしいための材料に使ってるだけ

なのでハッシーの場合共同親権界隈の話は筋違い

131名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7w5qEIIL0
>>124
そうなんだ
まあ本人のインタビューでそういうのは言わないからな
262名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hQUwXcyZ0
131 おさかなくわえた名無しさん sage 2023/01/24(火) 22:42:29.67 ID:F4HzxKL1
>>128
ネットを見ていても「ネチネチとねちっこい」「すぐ感情的になる」は女よりははるかに男の方が多いよね
口汚い男が長年女にレッテル貼ってきただけで

133 おさかなくわえた名無しさん sage 2023/01/25(水) 07:40:09.39 ID:/xbh3mc6
>>131
「全くそんな情報はなく、自分の妄想で被害者を責め叩きまくる」のも圧倒的に男の方が多いよね

感情的な人やネチネチしている人は女もいるけれど実際には男の方が圧倒的に多いから
「感情的でネチネチしている」は本来男を指す形容なのだと最近思った

映画やドラマだと女は感情的でネチネチしていて髪振り乱しちゃったりw奇声上げて掴み合いの女同士の喧嘩なんかしちゃったりwよくするけど実際にはあんなのまずないし
実際には逆で男の方の感情的ギャオオオン事件やネチネチストーカー事件が女より圧倒的にある

映画やドラマなどの創作作品だと女の方が男より感情的でネチネチしているのはそれらを創っているのが男で、男の見たい願望がのせられていたのだろうなと今は思う

185 おさかなくわえた名無しさん sage 2023/05/09(火) 20:53:27.96 ID:cAnK1lOw
>>133
映画やドラマもの創作ものは「女がヒステリックに口汚く醜く争い、男は穏やかでなんだかんだ冷静」が本当に凄く多いよね
実際の事件とか見てると男の方が圧倒的にヒステリックなギャオオオン事件起こしてる

そういやこの前犬神家の一族とか見ててそう思ったな
横溝正史シリーズとか世界観とか設定とか傑作だし好きなんだけどあれも女はヒステリックで感情的で男は穏やかという男の願望てんこ盛りものの一つでもあるね

136名無しさん@恐縮ですID:h2AYudsy0
>>124
橋本が共同親権代表者として活動し、国会議員も巻きこんで橋本を持ち上げた以上、その言い訳は無理
144名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7w5qEIIL0
>>136
国会議員が動いたのは別に良くね
確かに裁判所の判定は世界の動きとはかけ離れててておかしい
166名無しさん@恐縮ですID:h2AYudsy0
>>144
>>148
橋本の記事が出るたびに、共同親権代表者としての過去の活動が世界に広まるから無理
共同親権界隈もその橋本の知名度を利用していたんだから自業自得
橋本がやらかせばやらかすほど、共同親権というものがどういうものかみんなが知れるんだから良かったじゃん
181名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7w5qEIIL0
>>166
問題起こしてない限り共同親権が妥当だとは思うけど
こういうことやるとマイナスだわな
180名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zuwoPwa60
>>144
世界(日報)か世界(平和統一家庭連合)の動きだろw
148名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iFblQ3KH0
>>136
橋本が共同親権を主張したのも
「俺は元嫁のせいでこんなに苦しんでるんだ」と元嫁に伝えたいというのが動機

とにかくハッシーは病んでるよ

126名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pZaA0vZs02023/07/21(金) 03:02:36.20
警察によると、橋本容疑者は開いていた窓から侵入し、元妻の父親と鉢合わせとなって揉み合いになった後、家の中で元妻を追いかけるなどしましたが、持っていたくわを元妻の父親が取り上げて制圧したということです。

元妻やその父親は軽いけがをしました。

殺人未遂は大袈裟じゃない?

133名無しさん@恐縮ですID:h2AYudsy0
>>126
頭部へクワを振り下ろしたら殺意あるよな
262名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hQUwXcyZ0
131 おさかなくわえた名無しさん sage 2023/01/24(火) 22:42:29.67 ID:F4HzxKL1
>>128
ネットを見ていても「ネチネチとねちっこい」「すぐ感情的になる」は女よりははるかに男の方が多いよね
口汚い男が長年女にレッテル貼ってきただけで

133 おさかなくわえた名無しさん sage 2023/01/25(水) 07:40:09.39 ID:/xbh3mc6
>>131
「全くそんな情報はなく、自分の妄想で被害者を責め叩きまくる」のも圧倒的に男の方が多いよね

感情的な人やネチネチしている人は女もいるけれど実際には男の方が圧倒的に多いから
「感情的でネチネチしている」は本来男を指す形容なのだと最近思った

映画やドラマだと女は感情的でネチネチしていて髪振り乱しちゃったりw奇声上げて掴み合いの女同士の喧嘩なんかしちゃったりwよくするけど実際にはあんなのまずないし
実際には逆で男の方の感情的ギャオオオン事件やネチネチストーカー事件が女より圧倒的にある

映画やドラマなどの創作作品だと女の方が男より感情的でネチネチしているのはそれらを創っているのが男で、男の見たい願望がのせられていたのだろうなと今は思う

185 おさかなくわえた名無しさん sage 2023/05/09(火) 20:53:27.96 ID:cAnK1lOw
>>133
映画やドラマもの創作ものは「女がヒステリックに口汚く醜く争い、男は穏やかでなんだかんだ冷静」が本当に凄く多いよね
実際の事件とか見てると男の方が圧倒的にヒステリックなギャオオオン事件起こしてる

そういやこの前犬神家の一族とか見ててそう思ったな
横溝正史シリーズとか世界観とか設定とか傑作だし好きなんだけどあれも女はヒステリックで感情的で男は穏やかという男の願望てんこ盛りものの一つでもあるね

537名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tnrO1RDX0
>>126
つ【これまでの言動】
128名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rAAT+M3202023/07/21(金) 03:03:56.13
将棋のような日本でしかやってないドマイナーなボードゲームしかやってないから頭がおかしい人が多い
藤井名人もそうなりそうで怖い
150名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7w5qEIIL0
>>128
偏見怖っ
262名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hQUwXcyZ0
131 おさかなくわえた名無しさん sage 2023/01/24(火) 22:42:29.67 ID:F4HzxKL1
>>128
ネットを見ていても「ネチネチとねちっこい」「すぐ感情的になる」は女よりははるかに男の方が多いよね
口汚い男が長年女にレッテル貼ってきただけで

133 おさかなくわえた名無しさん sage 2023/01/25(水) 07:40:09.39 ID:/xbh3mc6
>>131
「全くそんな情報はなく、自分の妄想で被害者を責め叩きまくる」のも圧倒的に男の方が多いよね

感情的な人やネチネチしている人は女もいるけれど実際には男の方が圧倒的に多いから
「感情的でネチネチしている」は本来男を指す形容なのだと最近思った

映画やドラマだと女は感情的でネチネチしていて髪振り乱しちゃったりw奇声上げて掴み合いの女同士の喧嘩なんかしちゃったりwよくするけど実際にはあんなのまずないし
実際には逆で男の方の感情的ギャオオオン事件やネチネチストーカー事件が女より圧倒的にある

映画やドラマなどの創作作品だと女の方が男より感情的でネチネチしているのはそれらを創っているのが男で、男の見たい願望がのせられていたのだろうなと今は思う

185 おさかなくわえた名無しさん sage 2023/05/09(火) 20:53:27.96 ID:cAnK1lOw
>>133
映画やドラマもの創作ものは「女がヒステリックに口汚く醜く争い、男は穏やかでなんだかんだ冷静」が本当に凄く多いよね
実際の事件とか見てると男の方が圧倒的にヒステリックなギャオオオン事件起こしてる

そういやこの前犬神家の一族とか見ててそう思ったな
横溝正史シリーズとか世界観とか設定とか傑作だし好きなんだけどあれも女はヒステリックで感情的で男は穏やかという男の願望てんこ盛りものの一つでもあるね

130カイトID:AkqS7tyb02023/07/21(金) 03:04:08.24
【速報】検索とプロフィールからTwitterが消えた。
132名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rAAT+M3202023/07/21(金) 03:05:15.54
将棋のような日本でしかやってないドマイナーなゲームしかやってないと頭がおかしくなるということだ
不倫相手に突撃しまーすと電話かけてた馬鹿とか
135名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rAAT+M3202023/07/21(金) 03:06:21.35
将棋って日本人しかやってないドマイナーなお遊びに夢中になるからこういう頭がおかしい人が出てくるんだよw
138名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7w5qEIIL0
>>135
それはないわ
137名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7w5qEIIL02023/07/21(金) 03:07:08.61
これまた父親が元気だったから良かったけど、もっと歳取っていたらやられていたよね
145カイトID:AkqS7tyb0
>>137
クリスマス亡くなったハリソン・フォード似のお父さんは80代か70代だったしな。ハーフ娘とお母さんも惨殺された。当時凄い音と声が聞こえたらしい。
139名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UOYMC0fP02023/07/21(金) 03:08:02.01
今にしてみれば三浦冤罪事件のころから言動怪しかったな
474名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SlhBNsiY0
>>139
今にしてみなくてもおかしかったよ
だからこいつ持ちあげる奴みてマジかよと思ってた
584名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YX4TeA1U0
>>139
あの時点では誰がどう見てもクロだったろ
596名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hY0f5ZyK0
>>584
でもそもそも騒動とは関係ない立場なのにSNSで騒ぎ立てるってこと自体リスク管理も何もあったもんじゃなかったからなぁ
なんかハッシーは詳しくない世界に何も武器を持たずに飛び込む癖がある
613名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cvCZo1X00
>>596
全然面白くないお笑い動画をだして
「粗品が受けるのに自分が受けないのはおかしい」とか宣ってたのは去年だったかな
619名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hY0f5ZyK0
>>613
えぇ…一体どういう思考回路なんだ…
なんかもう全部他人のせい!ずるいずるいって感じか…
632名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cvCZo1X00
>>619
スマホ冤罪騒動のことも怪しい情報に飛び付いて不用意なことを言っておいて
「何で自分が謝らなきゃいけないんだ」だって怒ってたらしいし
橋本は万事そういう人
641名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JFxvUVLR0
>>632
あれひどかったね
スタッフのせいにしたりして
でもあの時はまだちゃんと謝罪はしてたのに
あの頃からちょっとずつ壊れてたのかもな
140名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VhVQsvBG02023/07/21(金) 03:08:09.68
執行猶予中の身だったのか
これはさすがに言い訳出来ないな
143名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qTgqChXc02023/07/21(金) 03:10:24.04
精神状態が不安定
仕事がない
金がない
社会的孤立
アルコールの乱用あり

医療なり保護なりが必要な状態だというのはわかってただろうに
警察、検察も医療に繋げられなかったのが残念

146名無しさん@恐縮ですID:741+ztz+02023/07/21(金) 03:12:40.85
母でも嫁さんでも自分の保護者が必要で、1人だと身を持ち崩すタイプだったのかな
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