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50名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fx4ubSFl02023/07/20(木) 12:51:29.19
ガイナックスに丸投げのナディアも
形だけはタツノコ

当時は三悪が斬新になったなあと見てた

142名無しさん@恐縮ですID:E19XyURf0
>>50
ナディアタツノコだっけ?
エヴァと間違えてね?
NHK→東宝→グループ・タック→ガイナックスでは
175名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fx4ubSFl0
>>142
ごめ
確認したら別の会社の下請けだった

破産したんだなグループタック

52名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cvHZABAu02023/07/20(木) 12:52:59.14
ハッチとマーヤ

モックとピコリーノ

どうして差が付いた・・・

54名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qiKmtEPJ02023/07/20(木) 12:53:26.62
ハッチは終盤のスズメバチ軍団との籠城戦が白眉。
ドカタのカマキリ親父参戦が燃える🔥
80名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UhXJ5V9Z0
>>54
あの脚本と演出は今もたまに見るけどよく出来ている
ラストのスズメバチの大群に押されてハッチがもう駄目だと思った後の神展開は本当に素晴らしい
98名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ahakoRNp0
>>54
終盤の盛り上がりは凄いよね
自分はそこに演出の鳥海永行が大きく関わってるんじゃないかと思ってる
ハッチでの確かな腕を見込まれて科学忍者隊ガッチャマンの監督に抜擢されたんじゃないかと
ガッチャマンも終盤の盛り上がりは凄かった
101名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WgTtMxVo0
>>98
> ガッチャマンも終盤の盛り上がりは凄かった
だから初代でやめといて欲しかった…
106名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ahakoRNp0
>>101
Ⅱは第一話で視聴をやめたなw
113名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WgTtMxVo0
>>106
そんなあなたのガッチャマンFの感想聞きたい…まあ見ねよな…
127名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ahakoRNp0
>>113
当時ザッピング中にチラッと見たことあるけど、おー作画良くなってんじゃんと思った記憶
その時だけかも知らんけと
118名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7K/7Hpkc0
>>101
再放送でしかガッチャマンを知らないけど、後年になってアニマックスで初めて三部作と知ったよ
111名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UhXJ5V9Z0
>>98
そうだねガッチャマンも終盤の盛り上がりは凄かったね
ガッチャマンの終盤でレッドインパルスの隊長と大鷲の健が衝突して「いつも俺を子供扱いにしやがって」と殴りかかろうとした時に健の父である事を知ってた白鳥のジュンが泣いて止めに入ったんだよな
その後にギャラクターの作戦を阻止するために自らの命を犠牲にして亡くなぅた時に健は自分の父である事を知って涙を流すシーンは忘れられない名シーンだよね
130名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ahakoRNp0
>>111
本当はあそこで終わる予定だったんだよね
でも視聴率が好調だったので1年伸びたw
本当の終盤はジョーの物語になる
最終回は子供向けのアニメでこんなドラマチックなラストってあるのかと驚いたな
現代のジャパニメーションと呼ばれるものの直接的なルーツは科学忍者隊ガッチャマンだと思う
132名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UhXJ5V9Z0
>>130
凄い完成度だったね
そりゃ当時の子供達もテレビに釘付けになりますよね
143名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WgTtMxVo0
>>130
> 現代のジャパニメーションと呼ばれるものの直接的なルーツは科学忍者隊ガッチャマン

まあ、ガッチャマンというかタツノコプロ作品が火付け役だよね。
タツノコプロって海外に売ることも考えてバタ臭い絵柄にしたって話聞いたときは驚いたな
70年代でそこまで考えてたのかって

150名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ahakoRNp0
>>143
向こうでは超メジャーなAKIRAにもタツノコのアニメーターが関わってるよね

余談だけど、同じ鳥海永行監督の「宇宙の騎士テッカマン」では主人公の敵のラスボスが死んだはずの父親になる予定だった
しかしそこを描く前に番組は打ち切りになってしまった

スターウォーズでダース・ベイダーがルークの父親になる前だった
ジョージ・ルーカスが日の目を見なかったテッカマンの設定をサルベージしてきて勝手に拝借したのかどうかは知らないw

179名無しさん@恐縮ですID:x9ZadfXQ0
>>54
ハッチってバトルアニメだったのかよ
56名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Vs8UZesU02023/07/20(木) 12:54:20.67
58名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lit8tnZN02023/07/20(木) 12:56:17.32
子宮はひとつ 恥丘はひとつ
59名無しさん@恐縮ですID:00Ekn++G02023/07/20(木) 12:56:26.74
タツノコプロは初代社長が早逝してしまったのが後のリメイク連発の原因となっているな
1970-80年代のタツノコ黄金期に音楽面で支えた山本正之氏は存命中
65名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WgTtMxVo0
>>59
> 1970-80年代のタツノコ黄金期に音楽面で支えた山本正之氏は存命中

山本正之「アニメがなんだ」

60名無しさん@恐縮ですID:si8M496n02023/07/20(木) 12:57:39.35
お世話になりました
64名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pLQNNXD302023/07/20(木) 13:00:13.06
まさに全盛期に育った
みなしごハッチだけいじめ役が意地悪過ぎてあまり好きじゃなかった記憶がある
68名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Nlxd43TR02023/07/20(木) 13:03:24.78
みなしごハッチを海外で放映するとやっぱり泣くのかな
75名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7K/7Hpkc0
>>68
欧米人の感覚は日本人と乖離しているからなあ。
他社作品だけど、フランダースの犬なんか『負け犬の物語』と評すくらい
77名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q7YazUnq0
>>75
俺自身が価値観そっちに近づいてるのか
救えねえ話すぎてなあ

朝一から最終回見て凹んだわ

91名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WgTtMxVo0
>>77
序盤でネロかアロアかが買ってた飴が滅茶苦茶美味そうに見えたのしか覚えてねぇわ
105名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q7YazUnq0
>>91
オープニングが声も神の神曲だが表情変えずに顔傾けて走るネロが怖いんや
てかエンディングあれにするって知っててこのオープニング映像が鬼畜だわ
81名無しさん@恐縮ですID:F0SwGAoG0
>>75
キリスト教圏ではあれハッピーエンドと聞いたが
93名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WgTtMxVo0
>>81
ハリウッド版ではハッピーエンドのような演出だったな。しらけたけど
94名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7K/7Hpkc0
>>81
それ、アメリカ実写版フランダースの犬と勘違いしていない?
(アメリカでは5回も映像化されたけど、すべてハッピーエンドに改ざんされた)
原作や日本アニメへの評価はさんざんだよ
69名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cvHZABAu02023/07/20(木) 13:04:33.63
けろっこデメタンとケロロ軍曹

どうして差が付いた・・・

70名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JCBXiB8502023/07/20(木) 13:04:39.46
すげーな存命だったのかよ
大往生だな
72名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iylCec2N02023/07/20(木) 13:05:15.38
パヤッパラッパー
74名無しさん@恐縮ですID:w6ARZdx702023/07/20(木) 13:07:10.28
この時代の人って本当オールマイティだなぁ。同じ人だとは知らなかった
82名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pF1UJ77Q02023/07/20(木) 13:11:49.17
おつかれさまでした
ありがとうございました
83名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HJg4d3Nk02023/07/20(木) 13:11:59.69
マーヤはドイツ児童文学の名作
84名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eKFjyaWZ02023/07/20(木) 13:12:21.94
行け行けハぁッチぃ みなしごハぁッチぃ~♪
85名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nAvKPSNG02023/07/20(木) 13:12:33.89
ミツバチは基本メスしかいません
働きバチは全員メスです
オスバチというのは交尾の時しか存在価値はなく巣作りした最初の頃しかいませんしすぐ死にます
ハチの王子がいて長く冒険したり働き蜂みたいな感じだったり次代の王みたいな設定は擬人化とか
その他諸々の無茶設定を無視したとしても有りえないんです
88名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q7YazUnq0
>>85
考え方によっちゃあ
全部女にしたウマ娘より合理的に女だらけにできるな!
139名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fx4ubSFl0
>>85
美少女しかいない学園アニメみたいなもんよ
90名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lit8tnZN02023/07/20(木) 13:15:36.48
ハッチとダメおやじはうけつけなかったな 悲惨すぎて
92名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VenMXCcP02023/07/20(木) 13:17:32.20
独身ハッチ
96名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HJg4d3Nk02023/07/20(木) 13:19:42.69
ここのキャラデザインはたしかイタリア人がやってたな。
97名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5+pG6NRQ02023/07/20(木) 13:20:27.59
はっちは終始めそめそして殴りたくなるキャラだったな
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