200名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PERDT1xO02023/07/17(月) 06:57:07.82
Z世代にわかりやすく言えば今でいうシンガーソングライターのあいみょん
人気の期間はそこまで長くなく、2000年頃には勢いは落ちていた記憶
人気の期間はそこまで長くなく、2000年頃には勢いは落ちていた記憶
203名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:u8mGFLPA0
>>200
そのあいみょんも今じゃ30近いからそんなに若くないのな
若者ともそろそろ言えなくなる
そのあいみょんも今じゃ30近いからそんなに若くないのな
若者ともそろそろ言えなくなる
201名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zVR6HouY02023/07/17(月) 06:59:51.04
でもこいつ大学卒業してるやん
高卒はともかく中卒の芸能人よりも根はマトモやで
高卒はともかく中卒の芸能人よりも根はマトモやで
204名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jHPLIqzZ0
>>201
学歴で判断するのは人間の悪い癖だぞ
学歴で判断するのは人間の悪い癖だぞ
208名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yQWlh7Zj0
>>204
学歴で判断してるのは世間一般だよ
高卒や中卒じゃマトモな企業なら面接で落とされる
学歴で判断してるのは世間一般だよ
高卒や中卒じゃマトモな企業なら面接で落とされる
205名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:C4qunvHE0
>>201
短大や。
短大や。
202名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WdHd4Lbe02023/07/17(月) 07:01:43.68
少子化問題云々言ってるやつはまず
岡村靖幸「祈りの季節」(1990年) を聞けよと言いたい
206名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:O4PH0yiI02023/07/17(月) 07:14:35.19
サブスク批判してたな
207名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HElibQ5x02023/07/17(月) 07:14:45.55
有り余る才能を痛すぎる人格が打ち消してしまうあたり泰葉にかぶる
209名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zFY4xDe+02023/07/17(月) 07:27:21.44
今思うとこの人のギミーシェルターは槇原敬之のハングリースパイダーとかぶる
210名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:X8HXFU/i02023/07/17(月) 07:27:49.33
若い層に自分ら世代の推しを伝えようと
躍起になりだしたら老人化の始まり
躍起になりだしたら老人化の始まり
211名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:zo4u3uiK02023/07/17(月) 07:27:54.87
全盛期はめちゃくちゃ可愛かった
ギターやりながら歌ってたりして最初は衝撃的でもあったよ
ギターやりながら歌ってたりして最初は衝撃的でもあったよ
212名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:z8pYDgAP02023/07/17(月) 07:28:49.72
岡村靖幸を聴いたほうがいいんじゃないかな
213名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cz1kL5aW02023/07/17(月) 07:29:58.58
リアルタイムでは何にも感じなかったな
214名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pgWH7CDf02023/07/17(月) 07:31:50.54
月の缶は今でも聴いてる
215名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:h7fsQlvc02023/07/17(月) 07:32:13.53
ホンモノの音楽をやるなら下の世代いうより
同世代から上の世代をうならせないと。
同世代から上の世代をうならせないと。
216名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Y4eo/8gG0
>>215
つまり古くさいことやれよってことか
つまり古くさいことやれよってことか
217名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lReUAgLj02023/07/17(月) 07:46:46.16
高校からピアノ科だもんな。 やっぱり桜が最高。
218名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WvBLdO5a02023/07/17(月) 08:03:03.28
デビュー前、仁愛短大の学祭に
セーラー服でステージにあがって、ハチャメチャやったって聞いたな
セーラー服でステージにあがって、ハチャメチャやったって聞いたな
222名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xnPjyNAe02023/07/17(月) 08:16:50.65
1/2はよくスーパーでメロディが流れてる
223名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Urva+PTZ02023/07/17(月) 08:25:35.75
るろうに剣心ブーストで売れたイメージしかない
224名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kpvfvUi302023/07/17(月) 08:27:01.44
狩野英孝のイメージが
226名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:S1OO2YvW02023/07/17(月) 08:28:53.58
いや、芸能界とか一時的にでも売れたもん勝ちやぜ
売れてナンボの世界だからね
今は落ち目でも鳴かず飛ばずのタレントは星の数ほどいる
売れてナンボの世界だからね
今は落ち目でも鳴かず飛ばずのタレントは星の数ほどいる
244名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:RMropaT20
>>226
一発屋でも印税で小銭稼げるんだからうらやましい
一発屋でも印税で小銭稼げるんだからうらやましい
228名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:noo/Figa02023/07/17(月) 08:35:34.75
岡村ちゃんってやっぱ天才なんだろうな
229名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:R+OtBeB402023/07/17(月) 08:53:29.67
鈴木あみもそうだが川本真琴も旬が短かった記憶しかねーな
広末涼子は歌手として売れなくなっても女優業でうまく繋いだから生きの長い芸能活動を出来ていたが
路線変更すればまた違ったのかもね
広末涼子は歌手として売れなくなっても女優業でうまく繋いだから生きの長い芸能活動を出来ていたが
路線変更すればまた違ったのかもね
235名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aKvdFHtI0
>>229
旬の長さって大体みんな同じと思うけどな
みんなが知ってるような曲って結局のとこ大体みんな最初の数年の間の曲でしょ
旬の長さって大体みんな同じと思うけどな
みんなが知ってるような曲って結局のとこ大体みんな最初の数年の間の曲でしょ
295名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZjGhPo/E0
>>229
広末の歌手活動はそもそもおまけで
その2人は本業歌手でデビューしたではないか
広末の歌手活動はそもそもおまけで
その2人は本業歌手でデビューしたではないか
230名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xU64Fxyj02023/07/17(月) 08:58:34.81
典型的な一発屋
231名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TbgrMdr302023/07/17(月) 09:10:30.96
岡村靖幸を聴けって事だよな
232名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iQrjUNzw02023/07/17(月) 09:52:28.86
こんだけ書き込みあって
タイガーフェイクファが一切出てこないのは何でだ？
タイガーフェイクファが一切出てこないのは何でだ？
あとアイドル売りなんて全然してない
(人気なかった)と思うが
233名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:EzbP03PH02023/07/17(月) 09:55:51.22
洋楽志向だったけど川本のファーストはよく聞いたな
その後、aikoが川本をわかりやすくして
そのポジション奪った感じだった
その後、aikoが川本をわかりやすくして
そのポジション奪った感じだった
236名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xHY3HEpU0
>>233
aikoと川本はファン層が被らんだろwww
aikoと川本はファン層が被らんだろwww
237名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AIWFYZ0C02023/07/17(月) 10:27:40.11
背中に耳を～のＰＶで曲の間に余計な演出挟んで台無しになってた記憶がある
238名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:djtJ6WJI02023/07/17(月) 10:37:11.22
当時、唯一るろうに剣心の主題歌になったのだけは分かる
それ以外は何も知らねー
それ以外は何も知らねー
240名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:x19YUWhz02023/07/17(月) 10:45:29.26
高いクオリティの歌詞をこれでもかと早口で畳み掛けるのが凄かった。
卒業証書クシャクシャにしたかった。
卒業証書クシャクシャにしたかった。
245名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aKvdFHtI02023/07/17(月) 11:09:17.12
シングルの売上数に関しちゃ椎名林檎と大して変わらない
246名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/psqXkCT02023/07/17(月) 11:12:17.94
容姿も込みのアイドル人気ありきだったからな
ライブやったら客がキモオタばかりでショックを受けて活動が鈍ったとかいう
都市伝説まで流れたほどアイドル的なポジションだった
ライブやったら客がキモオタばかりでショックを受けて活動が鈍ったとかいう
都市伝説まで流れたほどアイドル的なポジションだった
287名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bztcN9et0
このスレだとやたら見た目を褒められてるけど地味だし見た目で勝負出来るアイドルじゃなかっただろ
>>246
>>265
この辺のレス通り
アニメヲタクの中限定でアイドル扱いされる様な存在だったんだろw
当時のアニヲタって本当に女と縁のない宮崎勤みたいな感じだから沢山集まっちゃったらショックも受けるだろ
>>246
>>265
この辺のレス通り
アニメヲタクの中限定でアイドル扱いされる様な存在だったんだろw
当時のアニヲタって本当に女と縁のない宮崎勤みたいな感じだから沢山集まっちゃったらショックも受けるだろ
292名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IJ78hnYa0
>>287
顔そのものってよりファッション含めての雰囲気が可愛く見えたんだろうなぁ
振り返ると思い出補正なんだろう
(俺は別にかわいいとは思ってなかった)
顔そのものってよりファッション含めての雰囲気が可愛く見えたんだろうなぁ
振り返ると思い出補正なんだろう
(俺は別にかわいいとは思ってなかった)
あの時代は、アーティストをアイドルとして見る姿勢が定着してた、アイドル型アーティストの時代。
そこが98年を分岐点として、
モー娘。という明確なアイドルと、
aikoや椎名林檎、宇多田ヒカルという、アーティスト本来の実力を売る(あくまでも姿勢、売り方)方向性とに
わかれていったんだよね。
だから中途半端な立ち位置だった人はいち早く淘汰された。
スピードや安室奈美恵も99年からオワコン化していく。
浜崎あゆみは、アイドル売りやめてからのブレイク。
301名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nTGConSA0
>>292
宇多田や林檎やあいこ実力アーティストとか笑わせるわ
それこそシンガーソングライターとかいう肩書きだけのアイドルだわ
宇多田や林檎やあいこ実力アーティストとか笑わせるわ
それこそシンガーソングライターとかいう肩書きだけのアイドルだわ
305名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lmGckRHd0
>>301
おまえが実力があると思うアーティストは？
BABYMetalか？
おまえが実力があると思うアーティストは？
BABYMetalか？
247名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aKvdFHtI02023/07/17(月) 11:14:42.19
DVDや映像コンテンツない時代に容姿どうこうって関係あるのかね
253名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yYyirH9K0
>>247
テレビ出演映像だけでもけっこうあるよ
テレビ出演映像だけでもけっこうあるよ
255名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aKvdFHtI0
>>253
だからそれで音源のみのCDやレコードを買うのかってこと
だからそれで音源のみのCDやレコードを買うのかってこと
259名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/psqXkCT0
>>247
CDバブル時代に売れた歌手とかみんな容姿が良い奴ばかりだぞ
その辺露骨にやっていたのがエイベックスだったが…
CDバブル時代に売れた歌手とかみんな容姿が良い奴ばかりだぞ
その辺露骨にやっていたのがエイベックスだったが…
261名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aKvdFHtI0
>>259
だからなんでそれでCDが売れるんだCDジャケット目当てだとしても
8センチ長方形ピラピラ紙のために1000円も出すのかね
だからなんでそれでCDが売れるんだCDジャケット目当てだとしても
8センチ長方形ピラピラ紙のために1000円も出すのかね
264名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZHYsK/RV0
>>261
みんな金も余裕もあったんじゃね
タイアップ全盛期でCMやドラマ主題歌＝大ヒットが約束された時代でミリオンも珍しく無かった
みんな金も余裕もあったんじゃね
タイアップ全盛期でCMやドラマ主題歌＝大ヒットが約束された時代でミリオンも珍しく無かった
265名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aKvdFHtI0
>>264
ドラマタイアップで大ヒットの時代だったのはそのとおりだけどな
そしてアニメタイアップはそれほど効果なく見下されてたわけで
ドラマタイアップで大ヒットの時代だったのはそのとおりだけどな
そしてアニメタイアップはそれほど効果なく見下されてたわけで
287名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bztcN9et0
このスレだとやたら見た目を褒められてるけど地味だし見た目で勝負出来るアイドルじゃなかっただろ
>>246
>>265
この辺のレス通り
アニメヲタクの中限定でアイドル扱いされる様な存在だったんだろw
当時のアニヲタって本当に女と縁のない宮崎勤みたいな感じだから沢山集まっちゃったらショックも受けるだろ
>>246
>>265
この辺のレス通り
アニメヲタクの中限定でアイドル扱いされる様な存在だったんだろw
当時のアニヲタって本当に女と縁のない宮崎勤みたいな感じだから沢山集まっちゃったらショックも受けるだろ
292名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IJ78hnYa0
>>287
顔そのものってよりファッション含めての雰囲気が可愛く見えたんだろうなぁ
振り返ると思い出補正なんだろう
(俺は別にかわいいとは思ってなかった)
顔そのものってよりファッション含めての雰囲気が可愛く見えたんだろうなぁ
振り返ると思い出補正なんだろう
(俺は別にかわいいとは思ってなかった)
あの時代は、アーティストをアイドルとして見る姿勢が定着してた、アイドル型アーティストの時代。
そこが98年を分岐点として、
モー娘。という明確なアイドルと、
aikoや椎名林檎、宇多田ヒカルという、アーティスト本来の実力を売る(あくまでも姿勢、売り方)方向性とに
わかれていったんだよね。
だから中途半端な立ち位置だった人はいち早く淘汰された。
スピードや安室奈美恵も99年からオワコン化していく。
浜崎あゆみは、アイドル売りやめてからのブレイク。
301名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nTGConSA0
>>292
宇多田や林檎やあいこ実力アーティストとか笑わせるわ
それこそシンガーソングライターとかいう肩書きだけのアイドルだわ
宇多田や林檎やあいこ実力アーティストとか笑わせるわ
それこそシンガーソングライターとかいう肩書きだけのアイドルだわ
305名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lmGckRHd0
>>301
おまえが実力があると思うアーティストは？
BABYMetalか？
おまえが実力があると思うアーティストは？
BABYMetalか？
266名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/psqXkCT0
>>261
リアルでアスペか？
容姿込でファンになるって話やろ
リアルでアスペか？
容姿込でファンになるって話やろ
268名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aKvdFHtI0
>>266
それでライブや握手会行くならわかるわ会いに行けるアイドルのごとく
それでライブや握手会行くならわかるわ会いに行けるアイドルのごとく
262名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZHYsK/RV0
>>259
楽曲の良さより見た目や歌番組でのトーク力適応力が問われた時代でもあったね
楽曲の良さより見た目や歌番組でのトーク力適応力が問われた時代でもあったね
267名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TcW4nqIW0
>>259
ビーイングもな
ビーイングもな
271名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GiFnrlfd0
>>267
ZARDはゴリ押し無しで売れた唯一のアーティスト
ZARDはゴリ押し無しで売れた唯一のアーティスト
282名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:jaY1krIB0
>>271
メディア露出増やせば更に売れたのに干されてたのかなんなのか知らんが事務所が勿体ぶってあまりデレビに出さなかったんだよな
メディア露出増やせば更に売れたのに干されてたのかなんなのか知らんが事務所が勿体ぶってあまりデレビに出さなかったんだよな
288名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TcW4nqIW0
>>282
関係ねーよアホｗ
新曲出した時は必ず歌番組出てたし、単に曲を出す頻度が少なかったからメディアに出る機会も
少なかっただけだろ
本人も別にそこまでテレビに出たいとか思ってないしｗ
関係ねーよアホｗ
新曲出した時は必ず歌番組出てたし、単に曲を出す頻度が少なかったからメディアに出る機会も
少なかっただけだろ
本人も別にそこまでテレビに出たいとか思ってないしｗ
337名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cpMsuZ6L0
>>282
マジそれ悲劇やんけ
マジそれ悲劇やんけ
249名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:aKvdFHtI02023/07/17(月) 11:16:31.27
むしろアイドル冬の時代と言われてたのが90年代だからな
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