150名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1GxSb9hs02023/06/28(水) 17:37:31.43
もう番号は振り分けられてるしカードないと不便というかめんどくさいだけ
153名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9p1pqX/0
>>150
マイカで個人情報をオンライン上で扱うって仕組みだから
便利になる反面漏洩リスクは高くなるわな
すでに番号降り分けられるてるかどうかは関係ない
マイカで個人情報をオンライン上で扱うって仕組みだから
便利になる反面漏洩リスクは高くなるわな
すでに番号降り分けられるてるかどうかは関係ない
151名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XwAKJvuD02023/06/28(水) 17:40:57.88
窓口での住民票、戸籍謄本の手数料1000円、2000円とかにしてやれ。
154名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XwAKJvuD02023/06/28(水) 17:42:41.96
こういうのってやたらと反対する人いるよなｗ
スマホに比べたら別にって思うわ。
スマホに比べたら別にって思うわ。
155名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9p1pqX/0
>>154
今までイントラネット内で扱われてた個人情報を
インターネットに広げて扱おうってんだからそりゃリスク高い
今までイントラネット内で扱われてた個人情報を
インターネットに広げて扱おうってんだからそりゃリスク高い
158名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5ZcdHBsD0
>>155
つか、そういうやつらだってネットで会員登録やらクレカやらやってるだろうに日本政府信頼なさすぎだろwww
つか、そういうやつらだってネットで会員登録やらクレカやらやってるだろうに日本政府信頼なさすぎだろwww
160名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9p1pqX/0
>>158
病歴から年収からすべて漏れていいって思ってんなら便利さをとればいいじゃん
俺はノーサンキュー
病歴から年収からすべて漏れていいって思ってんなら便利さをとればいいじゃん
俺はノーサンキュー
172名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5ZcdHBsD0
>>160
抵抗したって数年変わるだけだぞ
非効率を野放しにするならデジタル化の意味ないからな
抵抗したって数年変わるだけだぞ
非効率を野放しにするならデジタル化の意味ないからな
176名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9p1pqX/0
>>172
大きなトラブルなく移行できるかなあ
見もの
大きなトラブルなく移行できるかなあ
見もの
178名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5ZcdHBsD0
>>176
それは無理だな
トラブルだらけで突き進んで全国民巻き込んで情報流出
責任は感じるものであって取るものでも負うものでもないまでは既定路線だろw
それは無理だな
トラブルだらけで突き進んで全国民巻き込んで情報流出
責任は感じるものであって取るものでも負うものでもないまでは既定路線だろw
183名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9p1pqX/0
>>178
まあ未知のワクチンを言われるがままに打って
抗原原罪やら免疫寛容起こしてるバカ国民だから
実際に問題が起きて痛い目に合わんと理解できん
まあ未知のワクチンを言われるがままに打って
抗原原罪やら免疫寛容起こしてるバカ国民だから
実際に問題が起きて痛い目に合わんと理解できん
187名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nKK2pBr80
>>183
痛い目が怖いから何もクレッジットカードもスマホも何も使ってないんだよねw
痛い目が怖いから何もクレッジットカードもスマホも何も使ってないんだよねw
192名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9p1pqX/0
>>187
まあ漏れたらまずい情報を扱ってるサービスは利用しとらん
まあ漏れたらまずい情報を扱ってるサービスは利用しとらん
199名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nKK2pBr80
>>192
クレッジットカードなんかは当然使えないよね
まさか銀行なんか使ってないよねw
大変だねえw
クレッジットカードなんかは当然使えないよね
まさか銀行なんか使ってないよねw
大変だねえw
てか戸籍情報が役所にあるよ！
大丈夫！？
消してもらわないと！！
203名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9p1pqX/0
>>199
デビットカードで何ら不自由してない
銀行もオンラインで使う用と分けてるな
役所にあるのとオンライン上につながるのとでは
リスクの桁が違うわな
デビットカードで何ら不自由してない
銀行もオンラインで使う用と分けてるな
役所にあるのとオンライン上につながるのとでは
リスクの桁が違うわな
157名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5PJxopb402023/06/28(水) 17:47:24.32
じじつちんれつざいやぞ
161づらID:EWdqijfQ02023/06/28(水) 17:50:52.18
goo********1日前
マイナポイントを付与すると決めた者たちに責任をとってもらいたい。大事な税金を国民を餌で釣るような真似して恥ずかしくないのか？挙句の果ては国民は餌が悪くて腹を壊すハメになる。岸田首相、河野大臣は、こんなお金の使い方して本当、情けないよ。国民の意見を聞かない代議士なんて、いらないよ。即刻辞めてもらうことを願うばかりだ。
162名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:htuCvqoq02023/06/28(水) 17:54:35.69
パヨフォロワーへのアピールだな
それより作ってたんだな、ポイント目当てなんだろうけどw
それより作ってたんだな、ポイント目当てなんだろうけどw
163名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FLzRP8n602023/06/28(水) 17:55:23.46
もう二度と作るなよ
カッコ悪いからな
カッコ悪いからな
165づらID:EWdqijfQ02023/06/28(水) 17:56:41.21
わらた！
aea********1日前
いま国民にできる抵抗はマイナンバーカードを作らないこと。
すでに作った方々は返納すること。
でないと義務でないものが実質義務化してしまう。
カード所持率が下がれば下がるほど実用化は現実的に困難となる。
166名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GUFHFqSF02023/06/28(水) 17:58:06.73
パヨクにはそれが理解出来ない
168名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9p1pqX/0
>>166
なんでウヨが全体主義化してんのよ
それパヨの政策じゃん
なんでウヨが全体主義化してんのよ
それパヨの政策じゃん
180名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mMPM+w0M0
>>168
保守もどきがご意見番気取ってる
いわゆる保守派このマイナカードに反対してるし
保守もどきがご意見番気取ってる
いわゆる保守派このマイナカードに反対してるし
184名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9p1pqX/0
>>180
保守派ぶった反日がひそんでるから困ったもの
保守派ぶった反日がひそんでるから困ったもの
167づらID:EWdqijfQ02023/06/28(水) 17:59:19.25
ndp*****18時間前
どのみち2026年に氏名（本名）が載らない新カードになる時に、いま反マイナンバーでかつカードを所有している人はほとんどがいったん返納するので、いま返納しても大差はない。
2026年に大量に返納されるよりは、数年にわけて分散して返納の方が事務処理負担は軽くて済む。
169名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5PJxopb402023/06/28(水) 18:00:02.44
マイナカードの欠点
健康保険の使いまわしができない
税金逃れがむつかしくなる
通名が使えない
健康保険の使いまわしができない
税金逃れがむつかしくなる
通名が使えない
173名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9p1pqX/0
>>169
マイカの使いまわしはできそうですよ
マイカの使いまわしはできそうですよ
170名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1jSK7ZIt02023/06/28(水) 18:00:23.03
自民党の味方堀江さん
171名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nFBnRai202023/06/28(水) 18:01:55.36
珍しく正論
ラサールがあほなだけ
ラサールがあほなだけ
175名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XwAKJvuD02023/06/28(水) 18:04:27.06
今時、ネットバンキングとかオンライン証券やってるだろｗ
今のマイナカードごときどうでもいい。
今のマイナカードごときどうでもいい。
177名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:lbURsM5A02023/06/28(水) 18:06:31.77
どうせまたポイント獲得できるんだろな、ずさんだからポイント貰ったか貰ってないか管理してないだろ(･ω･`)
179名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DlrAb45302023/06/28(水) 18:10:01.22
免許証と思ってる石井w
181づらID:EWdqijfQ02023/06/28(水) 18:10:41.57
***1日前
＞カードの個人向けサイト「マイナポータル」で閲覧できる全29項目の情報について、総点検を進める方針を示している。
またこの点検作業に莫大な税金が浪費されるんでしょう。個人情報を預けるのに絶対必要な「信頼」は既に崩れ去っている。今更制度を信じている日本人殆ど居ませんよ。
182名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nKK2pBr80
>>181
そうだよ
小さなことに文句言う馬鹿が多いからな
手入力にミスはつきもんなんだから発覚後に直していけば良いんだよ
確率考えろよ
そうだよ
小さなことに文句言う馬鹿が多いからな
手入力にミスはつきもんなんだから発覚後に直していけば良いんだよ
確率考えろよ
185名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tWufwcXF02023/06/28(水) 18:17:23.05
マイナンバーか付与されてるからというより、マイナカードについては正しく交付されたものは問題ない。マイナカード【活用】で問題が出てるだけ。主な問題は所謂紐付け。そりゃあ1億2千万×ｎを手作業かつ目視確認だからね。正しく紐付けされていれば問題ない? www
261名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:a+ocLHiK0
>>185
で、そのひもつけでやらかしてるのは政府じゃなくて自治体の職員
つまりトラブルの起こってる自治体はこれまでの住民票とかそう言った個人情報の取り扱いでもっとやらかしてる可能性大
で、そのひもつけでやらかしてるのは政府じゃなくて自治体の職員
つまりトラブルの起こってる自治体はこれまでの住民票とかそう言った個人情報の取り扱いでもっとやらかしてる可能性大
190名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nKK2pBr80
>>185
アナログでやるってことはその1億×nをずっと繰り返すってことだからなw
今までヒューマンエラーが何万件起きてたかは知らんけど、マイナカードに関するエラーは一件でも許せんってアホが多いわな
アナログでやるってことはその1億×nをずっと繰り返すってことだからなw
今までヒューマンエラーが何万件起きてたかは知らんけど、マイナカードに関するエラーは一件でも許せんってアホが多いわな
186名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HiW/4Sp502023/06/28(水) 18:17:32.70
マイナンバーがある前提で動く社会になるのにな
188名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:yfCp3V4H02023/06/28(水) 18:18:18.65
みんなで返納しようぜ
189名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XwAKJvuD02023/06/28(水) 18:19:19.46
返納するぐらいなら番号控えといて銀行の貸金庫にでも預けとけばいいだろｗ
いずれにしろ番号知らないと何もできんからな。
いずれにしろ番号知らないと何もできんからな。
196名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mMPM+w0M0
>>189
通知カードとか住民票とかあるよ
だいたいマイナカードは更新必要な上に数年後に新マイナカード（）作るって政府が言ってる
通知カードとか住民票とかあるよ
だいたいマイナカードは更新必要な上に数年後に新マイナカード（）作るって政府が言ってる
191名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LzP+6NkT02023/06/28(水) 18:21:49.02
確定申告、マイナンバーでやったら
年間医療費、自動で入って、超楽チン。
交通費とか対象なの知らなかったが。
年間医療費、自動で入って、超楽チン。
交通費とか対象なの知らなかったが。
193名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:N2AE6h4G02023/06/28(水) 18:22:24.61
そもそもマイナンバーは振られてるのになんでこんな話になるん？
198名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9p1pqX/0
>>193
イントラネット内の個人情報をマイカでオンライン上に持ってこようとしてるから
番号は関係ない
イントラネット内の個人情報をマイカでオンライン上に持ってこようとしてるから
番号は関係ない
253名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:N2AE6h4G0
>>198
あろうがなかろうが番号は既に乗ってるのでは
あろうがなかろうが番号は既に乗ってるのでは
254名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f9p1pqX/0
>>253
番号はすでに紐づけられてる
今やろうとしてんのはマイカ使ってオンライン上から活用しようとしてんの
全然別の話
番号はすでに紐づけられてる
今やろうとしてんのはマイカ使ってオンライン上から活用しようとしてんの
全然別の話
194名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:o/wXQlFV02023/06/28(水) 18:22:53.37
政府に不信感しかない人がなんで既に作ってたんw
195名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:LzP+6NkT02023/06/28(水) 18:23:26.03
マイナンバー 税金チョロまかして奴が
多いパヨク連中は嫌だろうな。
多いパヨク連中は嫌だろうな。
197名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:YnzHI1pT02023/06/28(水) 18:24:13.33
これからは病院で健康保険を使わず10割を実費て支払う宣言だろう
いい事だろう
いい事だろう
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