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400名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4crf/2×002023/06/26(月) 07:13:26.05
死にたくなるくらいなら学校行かなくていい←わかる
学校なんてクソ!おまえら学校で何学んだんや!ロボットみたい!←これがわからない
行かないなら行かないでもいいけど普通に学校行ってるやつをsageるのが意味不明
469名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CVXWFMqS0
>>400
いつも思うが
「お前ら学校で何学んだんや」というセリフは、
学校では素晴らしいことを教えてくれるのに、と学校の価値を認めたことになるんだけど
自己矛盾に気づいてるのかな
482名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bEMPtNu/0
>>469
違うよ。学校で習ったことを覚えてないからだよ。

挨拶しましょうって習っただろ?
みんなと仲良くしましょうって習っただろ?
みんなに迷惑かけないようにしましょうって習っただろ?
みんなと協力しましょうって習っただろ?

学校ってこれらを実践する場でもあるのよ。

もしかして学校で習うことって勉強だけだと思ったかい?そう思ってるから、ゆたぼんの発想になる。

787名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7HrQ5+6p0
>>482
ん?
それをゆたぼんが認めるなら
そんな大事なことを教えてくれる場所なんだから、学校にはちゃんと通って先生の話をよく聞いて学べよ、という主張になるはずだろ
なのに「学校には行かなくていい」では矛盾してる
486名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LKPVAcQ80
>>482
その通りなんだけどだから全員行った方が良いってわけでもない
503名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bEMPtNu/0
>>486
そうして
挨拶できない
迷惑をかけても屁とも思わない
助け合わない
仲良くできない

という大人が出来上がるわけやw

507名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LKPVAcQ80
>>503
おまえはどんな事情があろうと行った方が良いと考えてるのか?
520名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bEMPtNu/0
>>507
どんな事情?
行かなくていい事情を挙げてみてくれるか?
答えはそれを聞いてからだな。
521名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LKPVAcQ80
>>520
「死にたくなるくらいなら学校なんか行かんでいい!」
528名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bEMPtNu/0
>>521
その程度なら行け。
本当に死んだ奴だけが、そのセリフ言っていい。
533名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LKPVAcQ80
>>528
実際子供死んでんじゃん
539名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bEMPtNu/0
>>533
その子が言うならいいよ。
でもその子も死にたかっただけで、周りが善悪決めることではない。
403名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fmkQnJzJ02023/06/26(月) 07:14:30.94
学校行かないせいで死にそうだが?
操り人形としての寿命も尽きそうだし
飼い主は捨てる気満々だぞ
404名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Rae3BOo402023/06/26(月) 07:15:13.65
死にたくなるのはイジメだろう
根本が違う
405名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EzuALHqM02023/06/26(月) 07:15:26.45
逃げた結果うんこ製造機なら死ぬのを先延ばししているだけ
学校が教えない自主学習に取り組むなら別にいいよ
冠婚葬祭についてでも、親戚とのコミュニケーションでも
409名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LKPVAcQ80
>>405
それって何がなんでも学校に行った方が良いって事だよな?
407名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mU1r03kb02023/06/26(月) 07:17:03.88
親は学校の代わりの「子供のための居場所」を用意する努力をしなよ
あの父親は何もしないで息子にくっついて行ってタダ飯食ってるだけやん
そんで自分たち親子は間違ってないと息子にスピーカーさせる 不登校の子達になんのヒントにもならない
410名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9HQ9Nft402023/06/26(月) 07:18:06.70
>「人生は冒険だ!自由に生きよう!死んだらアカン!」と結んだ。
その冒険に失敗したから死ぬんだろ
411名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NAbjeBIi02023/06/26(月) 07:18:14.96
行かなくてもいいは別にいいけど
その場合の勉強法や卒検、受験について語れないのが痛いな
412名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Te3zDJ9m02023/06/26(月) 07:18:30.39
人間関係の悩みなんてどの児童生徒も持ってるからな。
勉強についていけてないとか起立性調節障害の児童が、行きたくない理由に同級生の問題を挙げてるだけだよ。他責性が強すぎるんだわ。
423名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LKPVAcQ80
>>412
本当にみんながそうだと言い切れるのか?
413名無しさん@恐縮ですID:F/BHWJ/c02023/06/26(月) 07:18:32.11
学校行かないと学校内の異性とエッチ出来ないぞ
成人になれば違う意味で一生できなくなるのによくその貴重な期間を学校行かずに耐えられると思う
414名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UxpvIREQ02023/06/26(月) 07:18:54.88
そういや、今年は世間やマスゴミで5月病とか言わなかったな
416名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YYGOF6km02023/06/26(月) 07:19:14.86
行って苦労してない奴が言えることじゃない
ゆたぽんはただの無職DQNなんだから自分のことをどうにかしろ
417名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7xpXaaIu02023/06/26(月) 07:19:28.83
不登校になったあとのケアなんかしてないやろ
信じて見てた子供も騙されたと思わんのか?
424名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xoWVCnRp0
>>417
>不登校とか世界に行きたいっていう子を1000人集めて、
>子ども1000人で子どもだけが乗れる子どもピースボートを作る

て荒唐無稽言ってるぞ
こんなバカを擁護してるID:LKPVAcQ8

428名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bEMPtNu/0
>>424
島流しというかクチ減らしやなw
466ID:63nU9gb60
>>417
さすがに自己責任だろ
418名無しさん@恐縮ですID:T9wwmgPU02023/06/26(月) 07:19:52.53
学校にだけでなく人間関係や就職、うまく行かない時とか死にたくなる時なんて人生何回もある
その都度逃げ出してたらただのニートの出来上がりだ
一生暮らしていける程の金があるならそれでもいいが
419ID:lNt0mZa402023/06/26(月) 07:20:13.74
勉強したくないから学校に行かなかった奴が
死ぬくらい悩んでいる子供にアドバイスしても響かないよ
420名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UHtWjJFO02023/06/26(月) 07:21:00.98
学校行かなかったらゆたぼんみたいになるよっていう反面教師としては優秀
421名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IZ+WUpF+02023/06/26(月) 07:21:08.85
しかしこいつはそこそこ金稼げてしまったからな。最悪よ
425名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7L8NXQwy02023/06/26(月) 07:23:03.91
まーた嫉妬民がゆたさん叩いてて草🌱
この前スレで見かけた情報によると
ゆたさんは今度グレタさんと対談するかもらしいな
それ見て焦ったアンチが必死に叩いている構図w
わかりやすいwww😂
グレタさんとの対談が実現し
これから世界的な存在になって行くゆたさんと幸也に乾杯🍻
人生最高‼
435名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bEMPtNu/0
>>425
それ願望みたいだぜ?
ネタがなくなったから、願望を垂れ流してる。

食うに困り始めたから
次は環境テロリストに転職かな?

750名無しさん@恐縮ですID:neXKLpXN0
>>425
極めて同意
426名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8pwFzuON02023/06/26(月) 07:23:22.40
(大人になると死にたくなるけどな
430名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LKPVAcQ80
>>426
子供も死んでるから
427名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CL+CS+wk02023/06/26(月) 07:24:12.96
まあ、確かに死にたくなるくらいなら学校に行かなくてもいいけど
その後、学校に復帰するのが大半の子供にはハードルが高い。

なので、当然社会に出るのも困難。

434名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+luFk1Bo0
>>427
社会は「最低でも義務教育の中学校までは修了している」ものとして扱ってくるからな
429名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mU1r03kb02023/06/26(月) 07:24:31.71
あの親父にとっての「成功」とは著名人の周りをチョロチョロして奢ってもらうことらしいが、大多数の子供にとって憧れるロールモデルにはならないんだよね
431名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dMQ/vR3P02023/06/26(月) 07:25:09.15
イジメ問題に関しては、いじめられている方が学校に通えなくなるのは理不尽なんだよね
アメリカではいじめる方が家庭問題やら問題を抱えてる事が多く、治療やカンセリングが必要と考えられてるらしい
日本も考え方を変えなきゃいけない気はする
いじめられてる側が学校に通えなくなるのはやはりおかしい
いじめてる側をどうにかしないと
432名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Hq2sHcY902023/06/26(月) 07:25:23.68
不登校に依存して席を確保してるゆたぼんと、普通の不登校児は全く状況が違うからなあ
普通の不登校児は不登校って事を売りにはできないし
不登校児がどうやって将来生きていく道を作るのか、それを考えなきゃいけない
442名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LKPVAcQ80
>>432
学校に行かない事に罪悪感持ってるうちは難しいだろうな
433名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TrFftQB702023/06/26(月) 07:25:45.32
そして無職のおじさんになるのか
436名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nbpwJwP602023/06/26(月) 07:26:58.01
こいつの場合、「宿題やりたくなかった」が不登校の理由。そしてこいつの親父はホームスクーリング(今はメタバース)と言い張って教育を受けさせる義務を放棄してる。
437名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7xpXaaIu02023/06/26(月) 07:27:31.97
大阪か沖縄かしらないけど不登校用のフリースクール作るとか
学校行かない人間で金稼ぎ考えるとかしないのか
なんでこんなろくな実績のないクソガキの戯言がニュースになるのかわアーニャかんない
439名無しさん@恐縮ですID:inFyOH0W02023/06/26(月) 07:28:04.24
自分の親父がゆたぼんパパだったら嫌だし、自分の子供がゆたぼんみたいになっても嫌だ
一番多感で色々な事を吸収出来る時期に学校に行かず、他人にお金や食べ物をねだる品格に微塵も羨ましいと思わない
440名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mU1r03kb02023/06/26(月) 07:28:09.35
マジでユタボン父なの?ちょっとは息子の事を心配してやれよ…
441名無しさん@恐縮ですID:F/BHWJ/c02023/06/26(月) 07:28:32.81
世界じゃ貧しさで学校行けなくて死んでる子供がたくさんいるのに
443名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TrFftQB702023/06/26(月) 07:30:01.94
すごいよな
コピペみたいに繰り返し言ってるだけで
義務教育放棄した息子の将来は気にしてないよな
444名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LEEIVrw202023/06/26(月) 07:31:05.46
ゆたぽんが言うからと不登校になるのは勝手だけどゆたぽんはお前らの将来は一切保証しないからな
445名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mU1r03kb02023/06/26(月) 07:31:20.64
学校に行かないことに罪悪感なんかもたんでいい 親が子供に教育を受けさせてないことに罪悪感をもてよ
457名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LKPVAcQ80
>>445
もたんでいいと言っても現状は行った方がいいとされてるから
俺は全ての人に当てはまると思わないけど
446名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jfyVxNe502023/06/26(月) 07:31:23.25
もう学校に行ってみたネタしか残されていない
448名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CzwfYIUA02023/06/26(月) 07:33:00.50
だー、かー、らー!!
ゆたぼんのスレを立てるな!
youtubeへの誘導、再生数稼ぎ

レスするな!
無視しとけ

449名無しさん@恐縮ですID:H2d0Ulyc02023/06/26(月) 07:33:02.21
ゆたぼんみたいなのがYahoo!ニュースとかで目につく世の中に絶望して死んだ奴もいそうだけどな
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