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ゆたぼん 子どもたちに不登校呼びかけ 「死にたくなるくらいなら学校なんか行かんでいい!」

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550名無しさん@恐縮ですID:72EaR1lY02023/06/26(月) 08:19:09.38
壊れたロボットかな?ってくらい同じ事しか言わんなぁ
551名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8Hcuyvz602023/06/26(月) 08:19:42.14
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558名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GOsdoo5x02023/06/26(月) 08:22:53.22
この子さ、毎回論点がずれるから嫌われることに気づけないのかね?
学校行ってないから分からない?
無理して学校に行く必要はない!までは同意する人が多いと思うんだけど、そこから横に逸れて学校に行く往かないとは関係ない自己主張を始めるから嫌われんだよ。オヤジもそれを叱るんじゃなくてのっかってくるからまた嫌われる。。
躾ちゃんとしろよオヤジ。。
561名無しさん@恐縮ですID:394b8WAe0
>>558
親父はこいつのヒモみたいなもんだからな
588名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+JSeSkWG0
>>558
つかこの子は親父さんの脚本通りに演技してるんだよ
脚本に支離滅裂なことが書いてあってこの子はその脚本を読み上げながら育った
そう言えばこの子最近「こんな本を読んだ」なんて話は聞いたことないけど読書とかしてるのかね?
562名無しさん@恐縮ですID:06dTKmyq02023/06/26(月) 08:24:35.45
当然の事を言ってるだけだけど、要は「おまゆう」ってこと?
564名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZEy/og1A02023/06/26(月) 08:24:45.90
いじめられているなら自殺せずに環境変えたり不登校でいいと思うが
授業や先生が気に入らないだけで自殺を考えるような奴は不登校になっても将来的にまた嫌なことがあるたびに自殺を考えると思う
566名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pUJeoltk02023/06/26(月) 08:25:35.57
甘やかすと本人が辛いだけ
生きるのがキツくなれば淘汰というものでは?
570名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bEMPtNu/0
>>566
同意。淘汰なんだよね。だから引き止めたところで先送りにしかならん。

子供はダメだけど成人して死ぬならOKみたいな感覚も気色悪い。

575名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ynys2GZi0
>>566 ぷっ イジメ常習犯か、無能もと教員かなんか?
568名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Ynys2GZi02023/06/26(月) 08:27:51.52
エジソンも自宅学習で発明家になったし(母親がもと教師だが)
数世代前の日本では、学歴は高等小学校卒の人がいっぱいいた
それでも働きながら夜間中学に行ったり、女性もお仕事や習い事を頑張ったりして、働きながら一定の教養は身につけていた。
芸能人だと、武田鉄矢の母とかは旧制小卒だったような。
日本では、通信制で中学を終わるとかもあまり聞かないし制度に柔軟性がない気はする フリースクール
(不登校生の行き先)みたいのが都会にあるんだっけ?
605名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+JSeSkWG0
>>568
中学校までは不登校でも自動的に所属学区の所属・卒業ってことになるよ
フリースクールに通うと所属校での出席日数になるシステムがあるところもあるけど
家庭教師や通信教育で勉強してても勿論OK
615名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5o1rQzWl0
>>568
ゆたぼんの元々の主張はネットやスマホの等ギアがあるから初等教育が不要
学校に行かなかった、行けなかったけど、独学で学習して成功した偉人の人々と一緒にしたら偉人に怒られるぞ

因みにYKYもその違いがわかってなくて今がある

658名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AFw4FHaD0
>>615
逆にユタポンがいるお陰で不登校してると不味いってわかって不登校から抜け出せた子がいるかもなw
659名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YQM/Z4iL0
>>658
それは素晴らしいねw
キミなんかの何万倍社会貢献してるw
子供なのにw
569名無しさん@恐縮ですID:g6tYq7lB02023/06/26(月) 08:27:52.68
良いことでも悪いことでも、今の状況がずっと続くと思い込む傾向性。それが若さの特権であり、かつ致命的な問題点だからな
571名無しさん@恐縮ですID:n3Xdq4tt02023/06/26(月) 08:28:10.21
「不登校を呼びかけ」ってのは語弊があるし
これはいい事しか言ってないのに…
普段の行いって大事だな
576名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bEMPtNu/0
>>571
何を言うかというより、誰が言うかが大事だからな。

ひろゆきは大したこと言ってないのに妙に持ち上げられてるしな。昔の悪事を知ってる世代からすれば反吐でるけどなw

572名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CgMX24Yi02023/06/26(月) 08:29:18.58
元不登校児だが、この親子にだけは味方面して言われたくないわ。
573名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WTKMroin02023/06/26(月) 08:29:51.20
574名無しさん@恐縮ですID:M9xGHBnG02023/06/26(月) 08:30:45.64
まだいたの
578名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GjiufTXs02023/06/26(月) 08:31:13.16
こいつ可哀想だよな
いつか親父訴えなよ
584名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bEMPtNu/0
>>578
成人後に父親に人生狂わされたとか言って
殺人事件になりそう。
579名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uY4CiX6q02023/06/26(月) 08:31:16.11
おわぼんのスレ伸びねえなあw
580名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HfD7KbLb02023/06/26(月) 08:31:55.77
おまいら引きこもりの癖に他人には厳しいねw
581名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TkiEV/9S02023/06/26(月) 08:32:14.97
ゆたぼん見ていると逆に学校って重要なんだなって思う層も多いんじゃないかなぁ
587名無しさん@恐縮ですID:b3ntZuFc0
>>581
でも、ゆたぼんが学校行ったところで、性格矯正出来ると思えないしな
582名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Q4VAv5eh02023/06/26(月) 08:32:20.62
義務教育終了まであと9か月
583名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pUJeoltk02023/06/26(月) 08:33:05.82
Ynys2GZi0
5でしかイキリかませないアホだなw
585認めたくないものだな。自分自身の若さゆえのデブはID:hZ2A4Cby02023/06/26(月) 08:33:45.29
無学バカは黙ってろ
586名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wBQmN8UV02023/06/26(月) 08:34:39.08
厚生労働省の基準ならコイツはもう青年
589名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eyfEtVbm02023/06/26(月) 08:35:57.56
所詮親なんて…
世間体>>>>自分の名誉>>>>>>>>>子供
なのよね
590名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bEMPtNu/02023/06/26(月) 08:36:42.32
東大卒 学歴なんか関係ないよ。
小学中退 学歴なんか関係ないよ。

ゆたぼんには、この違和感を感じる。
この違和感を消し去る偉人になって欲しい。

591名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CW55iFrm02023/06/26(月) 08:37:17.02
解決できないようないじめや嫌がらせをされて精神的にきついなら不登校で良いと思うけど、親の金儲けの道具になるために不登校になる必要はないと思うよ
592名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mi67ae7n02023/06/26(月) 08:37:57.51
こいつのレベルでは大検も独学だと難しい
593名無しさん@恐縮ですID:QZbdxi9102023/06/26(月) 08:38:06.63
物凄く狭い世界が全てに見えてしまうからね
594名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5ZniYMNQ02023/06/26(月) 08:39:13.16
仲間や共感者を一人でも増やそうと必死
せめて、youtuberとして成功していればな…
グレタと対談したいなら、海外へグレタを助けに来たとか言って、過激な活動すれば良いのに、行動するのもケツが重い
595名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RfYmvGuZ02023/06/26(月) 08:39:19.47
何回同じこと言ってるの
596名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CM4tMcxw02023/06/26(月) 08:39:32.16
親の洗脳教育もあるのか知らんが、
度胸は凄いと思うよ

今の日本で学校に行かないという選択は容易なことではない
不登校児は大変だから、ゆたぼんがなんか道を示せ

教育そのものを否定したらあかんで。

いずれは通信か何かで大学行きなよ

597名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gnlM+/BA02023/06/26(月) 08:39:55.79
大人になってから死にたくなるんじゃね?
598名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GHbHex1202023/06/26(月) 08:40:10.56
麻生太郎 教育は幼稚園と小学校だけで十分
https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1621743326/
中学校まで義務にする必要ある? 大人になって微分積分や因数分解なんか使わない

> これは本当に麻生さんの言うとおり。全面同意だわ
> 因数分解、二次関数、微積分、日常生活では何一つ必要ない
> 化学式も、ニュートン力学も、古文漢文、地理、歴史の瑣末な知識、何一つ使わない

> 本当に教えるべきは最低限の読み書き、PCスキル、
> 運転免許、生活上で必要な法律の知識、
> コミュニケーション能力くらいのものだろう
> 学校ではそれらに集中すべき

> これは正論だろ
> マジで学校で習うことなんて9割使わないのに時間の無駄すぎるだろ

600名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bEMPtNu/0
>>598
マジレスすると、ゆたぼんは小学中退だから
麻生の想定未満の人材w
599名無しさん@恐縮ですID:h/eT1PNW02023/06/26(月) 08:41:17.99
俺も嫁と子供いるけどもう仕事行かなくていいかなあ
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