50名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:pN2JyRL002023/07/25(火) 13:59:55.51
お笑いって人を傷つけるものでは
人を傷つけないお笑いなんてないよ
人を傷つけないお笑いなんてないよ
52名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s2YKEaFw02023/07/25(火) 14:04:04.81
結局それでお金もらえるからな
グチグチ言ってるのは虐められた過去のある奴がフラッシュバックしてるだけ
グチグチ言ってるのは虐められた過去のある奴がフラッシュバックしてるだけ
53名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rZq49LJN02023/07/25(火) 14:04:10.75
当時は視聴者がいじめてるタレントと一体化してたけど
今はネット民が味方につくんだからどんどん弱者被害者アピールしたほうが良い
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55名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:GPtXLY2T02023/07/25(火) 14:05:21.14
お笑いって誰かを傷つけるから笑いになるんでしょ？
56名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OkHJE6+k02023/07/25(火) 14:05:50.53
めちゃイケは全てに脚本があってみんなあまり仲良くないってのがびっくり
毎回メンバーみんなでワイワイしてたのに、すごい演技力
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60名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZxKTz9xk0
>>56
なあなあに成らないから常に緊張感があってうまく行っていたんだろうし
なあなあに成らないから常に緊張感があってうまく行っていたんだろうし
57名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0U0AEJo002023/07/25(火) 14:05:52.52
うるさいうるさいうるさーい！
59名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:TQ53mrQc02023/07/25(火) 14:07:41.35
過去を喰らうババア
61名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XNpZg/Vd02023/07/25(火) 14:08:23.22
面白く無くなってきた所のテコ入れとしてガリタ投入して
私物化でトドメさしたでしょ
私物化でトドメさしたでしょ
62名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:H0ckIC8E02023/07/25(火) 14:09:45.68
めちゃイケってコントみたいなもんだし
台本あるのそんな不思議け？
台本あるのそんな不思議け？
63名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CRUXqrTj02023/07/25(火) 14:09:53.98
数年前までマスカットナイトでタレントさんをスーブースーブー言ってイジメてたやんお前
64名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:PFus4OCt02023/07/25(火) 14:11:03.47
ということは大久保さんは今後誰かの揶揄とかものまねをする笑いは
一切やらないってこと？
一切やらないってこと？
66名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:gMrrAorM02023/07/25(火) 14:11:37.39
ヨモギダくん元気にしてるのかな？
68名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kRgSCaBb02023/07/25(火) 14:12:58.38
24時間愚痴言ってるイメージしかないわ
69名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DPebiQa302023/07/25(火) 14:13:32.37
岡村が復帰後に目をひん剥いて韓国韓国って叫んでて気持ち悪くなってたよな
小学生の時のあのトラウマで韓国アレルギーになったわ
多分、自分と同じ年代は多いと思う
小学生の時のあのトラウマで韓国アレルギーになったわ
多分、自分と同じ年代は多いと思う
70名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9SdcNjGq02023/07/25(火) 14:13:54.58
でも大久保の自虐笑いで傷ついてる女性は居ると思うよ
72名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UjK1Dqu102023/07/25(火) 14:15:05.55
大久保はOLやりながらやってたんだっけ？なんやかんや一番一般的な思考持ってたのかな！芸能村なんてなろうとしてる段階で思想がぶっ飛んでるからな
73名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ViWQgEp302023/07/25(火) 14:15:30.77
お笑いなんて、人を傷つけて笑うか、自分が傷ついて笑わせるかの２通りしかない
「めちゃイケ」ってのは、あなた達「自分を傷つけて笑いを取るプロの芸人」の番組だったはず
今頃になって、人を傷つけて笑いを取っていたかもなんて言い出すのは、「自分らはプロ失格」って告白してるに等しいけど
じゃあ、もう芸人なんてやめてテレビに出てくるなよって話
「めちゃイケ」ってのは、あなた達「自分を傷つけて笑いを取るプロの芸人」の番組だったはず
今頃になって、人を傷つけて笑いを取っていたかもなんて言い出すのは、「自分らはプロ失格」って告白してるに等しいけど
じゃあ、もう芸人なんてやめてテレビに出てくるなよって話
74名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vt5SbaJr02023/07/25(火) 14:17:02.84
いまさら言うなよ
75名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZdTikiP002023/07/25(火) 14:17:58.80
笑いは暴力だと知らない白痴さん好き
岡田斗司夫氏の解説でも聞けば？
立川談志も言ってたし昔から常識なんだけどね
岡田斗司夫氏の解説でも聞けば？
立川談志も言ってたし昔から常識なんだけどね
76名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:H3Gf2z0X02023/07/25(火) 14:18:34.27
ずっとコントやってりゃ良かったんだけどな
メンバーやゲストとの関係性をネタにし始めたら終わりよ
メンバーやゲストとの関係性をネタにし始めたら終わりよ
78名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CRvNLWbE02023/07/25(火) 14:20:07.55
すぐ発狂するチビとハゲの男のせいでつまらない世の中に
80名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DBCq775302023/07/25(火) 14:20:45.73
20年同じネタやってたきんにくんがブレイクしたって事は時代が変わったんだろうな
82名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JH3T6sJ+02023/07/25(火) 14:21:37.41
日本人の民度が、多少なりとも上がったからじゃね？
今は行き過ぎな気もするが
今は行き過ぎな気もするが
83名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:o9SllI8s02023/07/25(火) 14:21:42.72
めちゃいけが終わったのはコントをなくし、町ブラロケやったりし始めてから。岡村を痩せさせるとか、矢部を太らせるとか、ガリタ食堂などで視聴率大幅ダウン。
新加入のメンバー全員失敗とか重なったから。
新加入のメンバー全員失敗とか重なったから。
84名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1BhN0zsX02023/07/25(火) 14:22:08.01
めちゃイケもあと数年我慢しとけばコア視聴率（）重視に変わって生き残れたのに
85名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:E2yEzp9q02023/07/25(火) 14:24:00.20
片岡飛鳥は独裁だからな
古いタイプで俺の台本通りやれ
テレ朝の加地も同じ
古いタイプで俺の台本通りやれ
テレ朝の加地も同じ
86名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Kp7krmEe02023/07/25(火) 14:24:31.06
人を傷つけてたら笑えないけどな
傷をつける事で笑える人はサイコパスなんじゃね？
誰かが泣いてるのを見て笑う人が理解出来ない
虐めやる人ってソレなのかもね
傷をつける事で笑える人はサイコパスなんじゃね？
誰かが泣いてるのを見て笑う人が理解出来ない
虐めやる人ってソレなのかもね
87名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:waMN8sAd02023/07/25(火) 14:25:20.27
他傷も自傷も同じなんだけどね。
自傷ならOKってのはそれをできない人を否定することになるし。
自傷ならOKってのはそれをできない人を否定することになるし。
93名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Kp7krmEe0
>>87
自傷も見たくないよ
手首切ってる奴見て笑えないのと同じで見てて辛い
自傷も見たくないよ
手首切ってる奴見て笑えないのと同じで見てて辛い
88名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:w94rwAxM02023/07/25(火) 14:25:20.34
でも皮肉ネタは欧米のが多い気はするよね
ブラックジョークというか
ブラックジョークというか
105名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/Ag4168O0
>>88
ネトフリにある欧米のスタンダップコメディを見る限りでは個人なら政治家や大物芸能人
銃所持容認派、キリスト教、ヴィーガンなどの集団はおちょくるね
あとは自分自身のルーツや性的指向の自虐ネタとハードなシモネタ、コロナ禍以降は反ワク
日本みたいにタクシー運転手やらショップ店員やら素人を小馬鹿にするようなネタはほぼ見かけない
ネトフリにある欧米のスタンダップコメディを見る限りでは個人なら政治家や大物芸能人
銃所持容認派、キリスト教、ヴィーガンなどの集団はおちょくるね
あとは自分自身のルーツや性的指向の自虐ネタとハードなシモネタ、コロナ禍以降は反ワク
日本みたいにタクシー運転手やらショップ店員やら素人を小馬鹿にするようなネタはほぼ見かけない
209名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UbtYlJ+E0
>>88
欧米はコメディアンのルーツが宮廷道化師にあるって本当なんかね？
だから権力者を皮肉るみたいによく語られるけど
欧米はコメディアンのルーツが宮廷道化師にあるって本当なんかね？
だから権力者を皮肉るみたいによく語られるけど
89名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bopc0Cuu02023/07/25(火) 14:26:32.21
山本がいなくなってつまらなくなって観なくなった
90名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HuKUlmiO02023/07/25(火) 14:26:41.31
謙虚さと思慮に欠ける面々ばかり
91名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1BhN0zsX02023/07/25(火) 14:27:52.84
お前らみたいなド素人でも悪口と下ネタ言えば笑い取れるからな
プロなら話術でず笑わせろってこっちゃ
プロなら話術でず笑わせろってこっちゃ
92名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iPpxY0BA02023/07/25(火) 14:28:28.87
あとからボロボロとネガティブなものが噴き出してるめちゃイケ何なの
94名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1DXE4Pvy02023/07/25(火) 14:29:03.88
ヨモギダのことやな
95名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kEl5wwxA02023/07/25(火) 14:30:18.98
ストーカーのコントとか、雛形にケチャップまみれにされるのとかは俺もやられてーなって思って見てたわ。
96名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Dv/L1/Vj02023/07/25(火) 14:30:59.94
本当のところ、
自分は傷ついていたんじゃないの
自分は傷ついていたんじゃないの
97名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2LSTEC3X02023/07/25(火) 14:31:03.94
まあフジテレビだしな
フジテレビが凋落した象徴って感じ
鴨志田少年愚連隊だっけ？
岸和田なんちゃらで内容が全然違うし響きとノリだけで人を小馬鹿にしてたな
フジテレビが凋落した象徴って感じ
鴨志田少年愚連隊だっけ？
岸和田なんちゃらで内容が全然違うし響きとノリだけで人を小馬鹿にしてたな
98名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:kOi/6XOg02023/07/25(火) 14:31:52.02
元メンバーの片岡飛鳥への不平不満が止まらないのが笑える
電波少年の土屋Pが芸人に全く慕われてないのと似てるな
電波少年の土屋Pが芸人に全く慕われてないのと似てるな
99名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hJcyzJyT02023/07/25(火) 14:33:38.85
吉本のお笑いなんてハゲ、デブ、ブス、チビ、ノッポを笑いのネタにしてんのにな。
102名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Kp7krmEe0
>>99
奇形の見せ物小屋みたいで嫌悪感だな
奇形の見せ物小屋みたいで嫌悪感だな
106名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2LyguyO/0
>>102
同族嫌悪ってちゃんと言いなよ
同族嫌悪ってちゃんと言いなよ
144名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:z43+19T80
>>99
そんなの古代ギリシア時代からそうだよ
人を傷つけない笑いなんてきれいごとだよ
そんなの古代ギリシア時代からそうだよ
人を傷つけない笑いなんてきれいごとだよ
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