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早くも暗雲「札幌ドーム」やっぱり”甘かった試算”建設から「20年以上」が経過し、老巧化も激しい

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102名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xRqXyk7Y02023/07/21(金) 22:28:12.73
札幌オリンピックに、何年後かの男子サッカーワールドカップもあるし壊せないんだよね。
103名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GJfw4W2902023/07/21(金) 22:32:20.43
もう野球は使わない感じなんか
104名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OZ8+pj7702023/07/21(金) 22:32:22.46
冬季オリンピックもどうせ赤字だろうし札幌市民には地獄が待ってるな
105名無しさん@恐縮ですID:d21XFl0E02023/07/21(金) 22:33:33.05
秋元 「札幌市民は札幌ドームの為に働いて下さい」
107名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LD72VfFl02023/07/21(金) 22:35:38.90
解体だな
108名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PCQsh7C702023/07/21(金) 22:35:40.30
お役人は結局、自分のカネ使って事業してる訳じゃないから
当事者意識が低いんだよな
110名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LD72VfFl02023/07/21(金) 22:36:35.42
解体でいい
北海道の鉄道も新幹線で廃線三セクになるんだし
112名無しさん@恐縮ですID:i1WoU3xI02023/07/21(金) 22:37:24.19
明日からの土日は高校野球が
エスコンフィールドを借りるんだっけか
札幌ドームは取り逃がしたな
113名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bBzcWZF502023/07/21(金) 22:37:56.28
ホバリングと天然芝の維持費で札幌市の支払い毎年10億円超える。
それにプラス、コンサドーレ札幌に補助金渡して、減免で格安で貸してる。
サッカー開催すればするほど札幌ドームは儲かっても、札幌市の赤字額が増える。
年間20試合もないし、広告収入もないし、グッズ売り上げも、飲食の売り上げもほとんどない。

公共施設にJリーグが寄生したら終わり。

115名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1bwqbBKw0
>>113
うんこどーれはダルの移籍金で作ったロッカールーム使ってるらしいぜ?
あいつらプライドないのかな。
119名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2JBOiNim02023/07/21(金) 22:40:27.25
アマチュア野球にもつかわすなよあんなクソドーム
怪我するわ
120名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iLIK2AMb02023/07/21(金) 22:41:01.75
潰せ
121名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PmGsq7gV02023/07/21(金) 22:41:39.13
ヒグマ牧場
122名無しさん@恐縮ですID:A9t4RSVG02023/07/21(金) 22:42:49.48
老朽化って具体的にどこが?
127名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Uj2z+0gW0
>>122
> 札幌市スポーツ局は、2023年度予算案で札幌ドームの保全に9億1600万円を計上した。ホバリングステージや可動壁、可動席などの経年劣化した機器や部品の交換に4億8000万円を見込む。24年度以降も予算を平準化しながら保全を継続するが、年投入額の規模拡大も見込む。
130名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xgfWenpm0
>>122
この前行ってきたけど雨漏りだらけだった
特に嫌がらせなのか日ハムの広告飾ってある壁の周りの座席の上は
バケツ沢山並べてバリケードして座れなくなってる状態。
自家用車駐車場からの入口は雑草が伸び切って荒れ放題になってる。
124名無しさん@恐縮ですID:97Fqfqjl02023/07/21(金) 22:43:21.19
第三セクタのメリットデメリット

メリット
1 民間企業のノウハウを取り入れることができる
2 行政運営より、より効率的な運営ができる
3 より質の高いサービスを行うことができる

デメリット
1 責任の所在が曖昧←←←←←←
2 まだまだ「補助金」への依存をしている
3 天下り先になり得てしまう

デメリット部分だけ10倍濃縮したのが札幌ドーム

125名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iLIK2AMb02023/07/21(金) 22:43:42.73
客入らないドームか天下り先だとのんびりできて良いよなw
126名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lmT1oXtc02023/07/21(金) 22:45:32.43
使用料高いのが知れ渡ってるからな
129名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+pQbbpkS02023/07/21(金) 22:46:41.67
あの市営地下鉄も客大幅に減っただろ
周辺地域の店舗も死活問題じゃね
131名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+NbZIW2A02023/07/21(金) 22:47:54.38
ホバリングサッカーステージの補修費だけで4.8億/年
ホバリングサッカーステージの売上は税金の補助を除けば1億/年ない
うーんこの
132名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JZDuw6+c02023/07/21(金) 22:48:42.83
ドーム主催の新モード(笑)使ったイベントまだかよ
133名無しさん@恐縮ですID:enIx7NCk02023/07/21(金) 22:50:19.22
流石に20年程度で老朽化は無いwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

まぁぶっ壊したいという電通の思いはよく分かった

136名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4AJH7gID0
>>133

>>101

146名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RCouNeC60
>>133
札幌ドームの資本には電通ガッツリ入ってて役員も入れてるんだが?
154名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MiF2afjT0
>>146
不採算は切り捨てて早く次いきたいんじゃない?
どうせ絡むんだろうし
149名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SyGNb7U60
>>133
こういうアホみたいにデカい建物は周期的に大金かけて補修しないとならんのよ
134名無しさん@恐縮ですID:i1WoU3xI02023/07/21(金) 22:51:34.92
エスコンがコンサートなども誘致し始めたら
いよいよ札幌ドームは終わりそう

オフの間、イベントに貸し出して儲けられるならば
そして、開幕前に天然芝の張り替えが間に合うならば
小遣い稼ぎが出来る事になる

141名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qR0KpIPA0
>>134
エスコンは9月になると連日野外音楽フェスやるから
参加アーティスが続々決まってきてる。
137名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AxOCJLT802023/07/21(金) 22:55:26.01
クマ対策で安全なキャンプ場にするのをお勧めする
138名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+vc1W8Hx02023/07/21(金) 22:55:48.61
ドームでやる4件が気になる
139名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8XwQFeXD02023/07/21(金) 22:56:04.84
で、ロウきゅーぶがどうしたって!?
142名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SyGNb7U602023/07/21(金) 22:59:43.34
あんな暗幕を金かけてアホかよ・・もう潰せよこんな糞ドーム
143名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9eoUWDF002023/07/21(金) 23:00:48.92
市長…責任をとって辞任します
後の事は知りません!
勝手にどうぞ!w
166名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qrrdugpR0
>>143
やめないんだよなそれが
他に人材もいなければ対抗馬もいない
144名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SyGNb7U602023/07/21(金) 23:01:40.71
移転をちらつかせて、球場の管理権をゲットして横浜市といい関係を続けるDeNAと
移転をちらつかせて、好きにすればー?って突き放したら本当に移転されたさぽろ市

いったいどこで差がついた?

159名無しさん@恐縮ですID:e7W5UKLa0
>>144
神奈川県や財界から、具体的に新球場建設計画が出始めてた。だから横浜市が折れたのも一因
168名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6I9e8+x80
>>144
札幌市側からしたら北広島市が球場造れる訳ない。
札幌ドームに留まるに決まってる、って舐めてかかったのだろう。
148名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OSv3H0RU02023/07/21(金) 23:05:20.92
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