151名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:FWk0S8NC02023/07/21(金) 08:35:41.25
アクセサリーと同じって感がえたら高かろうが毎年買えようが本人が満足ならそれでいい
153名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vWnmG2Bd02023/07/21(金) 08:36:44.28
周りの奴が勝手に古いのを処分するといって売ってると思うよ。んで毎年新しいの買い替えなって騙してる。カモにしか見えん
154名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ds7twpFr0
>>153
マジで？
アプリのインスコからパス設定、指紋認証なんかも引き継いでくれるん？
マジで？
アプリのインスコからパス設定、指紋認証なんかも引き継いでくれるん？
156名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:z6gdS6ZJ02023/07/21(金) 08:37:38.27
無駄遣いを一度もしたことのない者だけが石を投げなさい
158名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:sSooNOfP02023/07/21(金) 08:38:17.10
情弱高齢女だね
161名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xUKRvUDT02023/07/21(金) 08:38:38.52
2年に一回、下取りしてもらって
年間5万ぐらいが一番得。
年間5万ぐらいが一番得。
171名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ru3kI5EA0
>>161
俺は扱い悪いからだめだろうな
カバーなんかもボロボロで機種変更までに何回も替える
俺は扱い悪いからだめだろうな
カバーなんかもボロボロで機種変更までに何回も替える
162名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ah3BKphb02023/07/21(金) 08:38:42.84
この人今でもそんなに稼いでるのか
前に愛車遍歴に出てた時も一番いいのじゃないと嫌ってＧ６３ＡＭＧ乗ってたな
前に愛車遍歴に出てた時も一番いいのじゃないと嫌ってＧ６３ＡＭＧ乗ってたな
165名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:UM7YqOf602023/07/21(金) 08:39:09.00
芸能人はお金をドンドン使って欲しい
166名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wAUkvWWC02023/07/21(金) 08:39:17.73
ある意味スマホを使いこなしてるな
167名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OiRCJWbZ02023/07/21(金) 08:39:30.26
ワイのiPhoneはスマホゲームもカックカクになって来たから羨ましい
168名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DTa8S6oS02023/07/21(金) 08:39:59.88
スマホの使いこなしという自分で努力する面はお手上げだけど
カネだけは持ってるから一番新しい物持ってればいいんでしょっていう発想
本当ならガラケーで充分のおばちゃんな
カネだけは持ってるから一番新しい物持ってればいいんでしょっていう発想
本当ならガラケーで充分のおばちゃんな
169名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XOw5YpJ302023/07/21(金) 08:40:17.18
年20万としたら安いじゃん
俺何年も買い替えてないが月1万超えるから同じぐらいやん
俺何年も買い替えてないが月1万超えるから同じぐらいやん
170名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NEUwJKTV02023/07/21(金) 08:40:27.96
アホクサ
172名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:z6gdS6ZJ02023/07/21(金) 08:40:53.06
高島ファミリー
173名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:64tGl3LA02023/07/21(金) 08:40:54.38
価格的にはiPhoneか
てか頻繁に買い替えない方が使いこなせるようになりそうだが
てか頻繁に買い替えない方が使いこなせるようになりそうだが
175名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZtgzntiF02023/07/21(金) 08:41:18.97
アイフォンなんて数年前から一切進化してないごみじゃん
他のばかりぱくってるよね
まあセキュリティだけ良いだからアイフォンはいいとは思うけどね
他のばかりぱくってるよね
まあセキュリティだけ良いだからアイフォンはいいとは思うけどね
177名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DQLmYMbs02023/07/21(金) 08:41:34.22
高島礼子（５８）
らくらくスマホにしろよ
らくらくスマホにしろよ
203名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HWjUkIEL0
>>177
だーかーらー
iphone が 楽々なのですよ
だーかーらー
iphone が 楽々なのですよ
ジャッポの楽々フォーンは、逆にしんどい
ボタンと文字がでかいだけで、全然らくじゃない
メーカーの老害クソ幹部ですら操作していないのだから
ただ、iphone は、iphone12 以降バラマキをしていない
はやく 13ばらまかないとさ
レンタルとかそんなんじゃないねん
214名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+LQecfGZ0
>>203
SE2、12、13、SE3は1円～で狂ったようにばら撒いたけど
ばら撒きすぎてもう在庫ないだろ
SE2、12、13、SE3は1円～で狂ったようにばら撒いたけど
ばら撒きすぎてもう在庫ないだろ
223名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:HWjUkIEL0
>>214
もうかるようにばらまいてたのは１２だけや
ほかは、いまいち
もうかるようにばらまいてたのは１２だけや
ほかは、いまいち
284名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:C1hG1Qhc0
>>214
13の一円は他社から乗り換えの二年後端末返却プランか23歳以下とその家族の学割みたいなプランがほとんどで意外にハードル高いぞ
13の一円は他社から乗り換えの二年後端末返却プランか23歳以下とその家族の学割みたいなプランがほとんどで意外にハードル高いぞ
318名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/dS/BrUq0
>>177
楽々フォンは独自仕様過ぎるから周りの人に聞いても教えられない
多くの人が使っている機種を選ぶのが賢い方法
楽々フォンは独自仕様過ぎるから周りの人に聞いても教えられない
多くの人が使っている機種を選ぶのが賢い方法
394名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:abRnNWbw0
>>177
62歳じゃなかった?
62歳じゃなかった?
400名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QdN1bAMk0
>>177
今はらくらくスマホ全く売れないよ
80代でも普通のスマホ使いこなしてたりする
今はらくらくスマホ全く売れないよ
80代でも普通のスマホ使いこなしてたりする
408名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:B65IqZ7y0
>>177
もう製造会社潰れてるよw
もう製造会社潰れてるよw
418名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vw7cA1rO0
>>177
らくらくはタッチパネルの反応鈍くてイライラする
普通にタッチしただけじゃマジで反応しなくてグッと押さえ込まないと反応しない
らくらくはタッチパネルの反応鈍くてイライラする
普通にタッチしただけじゃマジで反応しなくてグッと押さえ込まないと反応しない
なんでなん？意味わからん
425名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:64tGl3LA0
>>418
あれタッチ感度が年寄りに合わせた設定になってんじゃないの？
あれタッチ感度が年寄りに合わせた設定になってんじゃないの？
446名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vw7cA1rO0
>>425
そういうことなんか
誤タッチ防止仕様なんかな？
そういうことなんか
誤タッチ防止仕様なんかな？
でも年寄りである持ち主のうちの親父がイライラしながら使ってるんだよな…
教えながら自分がイライラ習いながら親父がイライラみたいなｗ
450名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cW/xzHef0
>>446
うちの親にスマホ教えた時に思ったけど年寄りはとにかくゆっくり長く押す
そして移動させる状態になるからそこを改善させるのが一番大変だったわ
らくらくとか年寄りに寄せるんであれば絶対物理キー搭載した方がいい
うちの親にスマホ教えた時に思ったけど年寄りはとにかくゆっくり長く押す
そして移動させる状態になるからそこを改善させるのが一番大変だったわ
らくらくとか年寄りに寄せるんであれば絶対物理キー搭載した方がいい
456名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:cW/xzHef0
>>446
あとまぁ紙で逐一どうするかレベルで書いていくのが一番だな
そしてその通りやらせても絶対出来ないからそこを何とか教えて自分で紙に書かせる
この書いてある通りにやったら出来るのに何で出来ないんだっていうそういうレベルだろ？
自分の中で消化させて書かせるしかない
あとまぁ紙で逐一どうするかレベルで書いていくのが一番だな
そしてその通りやらせても絶対出来ないからそこを何とか教えて自分で紙に書かせる
この書いてある通りにやったら出来るのに何で出来ないんだっていうそういうレベルだろ？
自分の中で消化させて書かせるしかない
537名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CBVGeueR0
>>177
年寄りほどiPhoneのが絶対いいと思う
データの移動が楽過ぎる
メインがAndroidだけどchmateなどAppleにないアプリを使えることぐらいしかメリットない
それが上回ってるからAndroid使ってるけどサブのiPhoneのが写真とか管理しやすい
年寄りほどiPhoneのが絶対いいと思う
データの移動が楽過ぎる
メインがAndroidだけどchmateなどAppleにないアプリを使えることぐらいしかメリットない
それが上回ってるからAndroid使ってるけどサブのiPhoneのが写真とか管理しやすい
178名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:I8htblAx02023/07/21(金) 08:41:48.83
今のＰＣはだいぶ高スペックになったぶん
部品も結構高いからな、いい構成なら２０万は超えるだろう
つっても、マザーＣＰＵグラボ電源あとクーラーとケースとメモリ足して
いくらになるかくらいだから、（あ、モニターもだな）
計算してみりゃいい、とにかく電源はケチるな、話はそれだけだ
でもなぁ、８bitのパソコンが３０万した時代に比べたら神みたいなマシンが
たったの２０万そこそこで買えるって思えば超安いよ、今のパソコンは
部品も結構高いからな、いい構成なら２０万は超えるだろう
つっても、マザーＣＰＵグラボ電源あとクーラーとケースとメモリ足して
いくらになるかくらいだから、（あ、モニターもだな）
計算してみりゃいい、とにかく電源はケチるな、話はそれだけだ
でもなぁ、８bitのパソコンが３０万した時代に比べたら神みたいなマシンが
たったの２０万そこそこで買えるって思えば超安いよ、今のパソコンは
179名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XqH9cSpy02023/07/21(金) 08:42:21.36
最先端はまだ市販されていないもの
180名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:19c9GUjy02023/07/21(金) 08:42:26.96
最先端のガジェットを常に持ち歩くなんて最高じゃん
羨ましいわ
羨ましいわ
181名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:/U7wAnx802023/07/21(金) 08:42:29.96
最初にアンドロイド使ってる人は慣れないもんよ。
待ち受けのところにデカいグーグル検索バーとか置いちゃうからね、
アンドロイド使いはｗ
待ち受けのところにデカいグーグル検索バーとか置いちゃうからね、
アンドロイド使いはｗ
271名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5doZQDqw0
>>181
そんなんいじれば簡単じゃん
Androidは自分で使いこなしが出来るやつが持てばいい
お前はiPhoneの文字入力しにくいもん買えよ
そんなんいじれば簡単じゃん
Androidは自分で使いこなしが出来るやつが持てばいい
お前はiPhoneの文字入力しにくいもん買えよ
データ移行もGoogleあればすぐ出来る
出来ない言ってるやつは馬鹿(・∀・)
182名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:vWnmG2Bd02023/07/21(金) 08:42:38.24
本当にいい友人がLINE600人の中にいれば毎年買い替えても大して変わらないよって止めてくれるからな
183名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:s+hHAdpP02023/07/21(金) 08:42:43.35
クリアーのソフトカバー付けてるけどこれ真っ黄色になるのなんとかならんのか
タバコなんか一切吸わんのに
タバコなんか一切吸わんのに
207名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:C1hG1Qhc0
>>1
iPhoneっぽいがiPhoneなら基本操作はそんな変わらんだろ
なぜ覚えられないんだろ
>>183
透明樹脂の黄変は避けられんよ
車のヘッドライトカバーが黄色くなるのと同じ
iPhoneっぽいがiPhoneなら基本操作はそんな変わらんだろ
なぜ覚えられないんだろ
>>183
透明樹脂の黄変は避けられんよ
車のヘッドライトカバーが黄色くなるのと同じ
321名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:tIadrnFf0
>>183
ジップロックに入れて外に置いて酸素系漂白剤に9日間漬け込んだら少しマシになった
新品同様とはいかんけど
ジップロックに入れて外に置いて酸素系漂白剤に9日間漬け込んだら少しマシになった
新品同様とはいかんけど
184名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wAq7AfF402023/07/21(金) 08:42:47.76
で、毎月の維持費には、いくら使ってんだろうね。
194名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iwNyx3Bk0
>>184
通話定額で5000円とかじゃね
通話定額で5000円とかじゃね
185名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZtgzntiF02023/07/21(金) 08:42:50.48
一般人だとアイフォン新品買う→翌年メルカリなどで売ってまた新品買う
これで大体差額２－３万じゃね
これで大体差額２－３万じゃね
249名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CXBlqB+E0
>>185
商品にもよるがそんな「新品スマホ毎年メルカリで売って
差額2万～3万程度で新品買い直すとかキャリアで高額スマホを
毎月2000円払って使う」よりだいぶ金使ってるよな
3年間で6万～9万円も端末代払ってんだから
商品にもよるがそんな「新品スマホ毎年メルカリで売って
差額2万～3万程度で新品買い直すとかキャリアで高額スマホを
毎月2000円払って使う」よりだいぶ金使ってるよな
3年間で6万～9万円も端末代払ってんだから
186名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ieYQHdxy02023/07/21(金) 08:43:09.51
写真おかしいだろ
188名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:iNyF02Za02023/07/21(金) 08:43:42.60
俺もほぼ毎年何かしら買い換えるな
3台持ちだから
3台持ちだから
189名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AIkzi98R02023/07/21(金) 08:44:00.57
2年で強制機種変するプランって
ボロボロになっても動けば下取りしてくれるの？
ボロボロになっても動けば下取りしてくれるの？
192名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZtgzntiF0
>>189
傷ついたら弁償だろ
傷ついたら弁償だろ
199名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AIkzi98R0
>>192
2年綺麗に使うとか無理だろ
2年綺麗に使うとか無理だろ
205名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NctoFAwd0
>>199
ケータイ補償サービスみたいなのに加入して返却前に交換してから返すんじゃない？
ケータイ補償サービスみたいなのに加入して返却前に交換してから返すんじゃない？
220名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:AIkzi98R0
>>205
なるほど
>>206
リング付けただけで使うから最低でも角とかボロボロになる
なるほど
>>206
リング付けただけで使うから最低でも角とかボロボロになる
390名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IvYfBzXp0
>>205
残価設定ローンなんだから2年時点で回収か買取かの選択だろ
壊れてる場合は回収なしで買取
4年ローンなら2年経過後も分割払い継続
残価設定ローンなんだから2年時点で回収か買取かの選択だろ
壊れてる場合は回収なしで買取
4年ローンなら2年経過後も分割払い継続
補償サービス加入で交換は別の話
433名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NctoFAwd0
>>390
だから交換して傷なしのを返却
だから交換して傷なしのを返却
206名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:ZtgzntiF0
>>199
ケース買って普通に使えばむしろどうやって傷つくんだよ
ケース買って普通に使えばむしろどうやって傷つくんだよ
201名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xgOffweK0
>>192
弁償じゃなくて買取だよ
弁償じゃなくて買取だよ
198名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xgOffweK0
>>189
してくれない
してくれない
190名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:fIH6aIMS02023/07/21(金) 08:44:02.71
令和最新版の虜になっちまったか
193名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NctoFAwd02023/07/21(金) 08:44:33.79
まぁ話の引出しも増えるし使いこなせてなくても損はしてないな
210名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xUKRvUDT0
>>193
しかしこのサイクルでも
最高機種を持つ必要はない。
ほとんどの人が必要ない無駄な機能だから。
最新だがエコノミークラスの機種を買うのが
むかしからAppleの賢い買い方。
しかしこのサイクルでも
最高機種を持つ必要はない。
ほとんどの人が必要ない無駄な機能だから。
最新だがエコノミークラスの機種を買うのが
むかしからAppleの賢い買い方。
195名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:DvFJmAf002023/07/21(金) 08:44:42.97
貧乏人のオレは37000円の
AQUOSを3年使う予定w
ゲームやらんし
写真、動画撮影、SNS、通話
YouTube、買い物(D払い)に使うだけだ3年に1回で十分w
AQUOSを3年使う予定w
ゲームやらんし
写真、動画撮影、SNS、通話
YouTube、買い物(D払い)に使うだけだ3年に1回で十分w
196名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:xUKRvUDT02023/07/21(金) 08:44:45.68
5年以上辛抱して持って
下取り価格もほとんどなくて
まるまるの価格で機種変更はむしろ辛い。
下取り価格もほとんどなくて
まるまるの価格で機種変更はむしろ辛い。
197名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rSNtHCPj02023/07/21(金) 08:45:01.47
みんなPCって何年ごとに変えてる？
俺はこのPC6年目だけど重すぎるから今年のボーナスで買い替えようかな
俺はこのPC6年目だけど重すぎるから今年のボーナスで買い替えようかな
209名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ru3kI5EA0
>>197
ノートしか使わないから3年でミドルスペック今なら15万前後のやつ
外部出力とUSBC充電はマジ助かってる
ノートしか使わないから3年でミドルスペック今なら15万前後のやつ
外部出力とUSBC充電はマジ助かってる
217名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:4qMnbRd20
>>197
8年目だな。windows10のサポートが切れるタイミングで買い替える予定
8年目だな。windows10のサポートが切れるタイミングで買い替える予定
224名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5Cc1BN1j0
>>197
HDDかSSDしにかけじゃないのそれ
HDDかSSDしにかけじゃないのそれ
226名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rSNtHCPj0
>>224
マジか
エクセル開くのすら激重
マジか
エクセル開くのすら激重
233名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:5MvqIbjM0
>>197
MacBookを10年使って最近MacBook Airに買い替えた
でも古いのでも全然使える
Apple製品はなんだかんだで壊れない
iPhoneもそう
そしてOSの対応が長いから長く使えてコスパいい
MacBookを10年使って最近MacBook Airに買い替えた
でも古いのでも全然使える
Apple製品はなんだかんだで壊れない
iPhoneもそう
そしてOSの対応が長いから長く使えてコスパいい
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>>197
windowsXPの時にPCデビューして9年目で壊れた
windows7は12年半になるけど故障知らず
windowsXPの時にPCデビューして9年目で壊れた
windows7は12年半になるけど故障知らず
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