1少考さん ★ID:WZPXz7G192023/07/19(水) 20:52:11.50
レコードプレスのコスト上昇、著名プロデューサー「CDのジャケをレコードサイズで作ればいい。レコードよりも安く作れるし、アートワークの恩恵も受けられる」と提案 – amass
https://amass.jp/168275/
https://amass.jp/168275/
2023/07/19 17:14掲載
海外では、レコードをプレスするコストと時間が上昇しているため、CDが再注目されています。ブラーやザ・スミスのプロデューサー、スティーヴン・ストリート（Stephen Street）は「CDのジャケットをレコードと同じ12インチ・サイズで作ればいい。今のレコードよりも安く作れるし、みんなはアートワークの恩恵も受けられる。僕たちはそこに目を向けるべきなのでは？」と提案しています。
ストリートは最近、ケンブリッジ・オーディオのポッドキャスト『Made By Music』にゲスト出演し、CDフォーマットを支持していると話しています。
「僕は今でもCDが大好きだし、今でもCDを買っている。CDは、多くのインディーズ・バンドが、レコードを出す余裕がなくなったからこそ、戻らなければならないフォーマットになると思うんだ。
実際にCDとストリーミングを聴き比べれば、CDがどれだけ良い音かを思い出すと思うよ。
みんな、“パッケージなんてダサい”って言うけど、ダサくない、本当に素敵なCDブックレットを作ればいいんだよ。誰もあのジュエルケース（※CDを入れるプラスチック製のケース）は好きじゃない。家にプリテンダーズの1stと2ndアルバムのCDがあるんだけど、これが素晴らしいんだ。それを開けると、CDのパッケージが入っているんだ。（レコードと同じ）12インチのパッケージに入っているから、オリジナルのアートワークのままなんだ。それを開けるとCDのパッケージが入っている。
実際、12インチのレコード・ジャケットでCDを作れば、今のアナログレコードよりも安く作れるし、みんなはアートワークの恩恵も受けられる。おそらく、僕たちはそこに目を向けるべきなんだと思うよ。店は、CDは棚に入らないから置けないと言っている。CDを12インチのジャケットにすれば、誰もがアートワークを手にすることができるし、レコードをプレスしてもらうのに何ヶ月も待たずに、CDを手にすることができる。それが今のところ問題なんだからね」
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2名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:8amJX1Un02023/07/19(水) 20:54:50.42
調べたらブラーの黄金期のプロデューサーじゃん
全く知らなかったわ
全く知らなかったわ
3名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uItK7Sqn02023/07/19(水) 20:56:20.48
持ってるレコードのジャケットなんて大体が黒一色だぞ
4名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:onixeGFR02023/07/19(水) 20:57:30.77
スーパーオーディオCDは結局普及しなかったなあ
5名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:i5XVvnb802023/07/19(水) 20:59:00.50
レコード大人気！
↓
でもプレスに時間がかかる
↓
ほなCDでええやん！
時間もコストも低い！
↓
パッケージをレコードと同じにしたら
レコードと同じように店にも置ける！
↓
でもプレスに時間がかかる
↓
ほなCDでええやん！
時間もコストも低い！
↓
パッケージをレコードと同じにしたら
レコードと同じように店にも置ける！
って話？
6名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QJPHjSnx02023/07/19(水) 21:02:10.69
これが2023年の議論なのがすごい
7名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:f24etNeA02023/07/19(水) 21:07:16.88
近年レコード高かったけど最近更に高すぎ
輸入盤なんか8000円とか余裕で超えてくる
この間なんかタワレコのオンラインで注文完了してた6000円のレコード、発送前に急に9900円に値上げされたし
いやいや4000円の値上げてなんやねん
キャンセルしたけど
製造元とレコード会社全体で結託してどうせプレミアつくから出荷前にプレ値で売ればいいんじゃね？って言う風に変なビジネスなってきてると邪推してしまうわ
輸入盤なんか8000円とか余裕で超えてくる
この間なんかタワレコのオンラインで注文完了してた6000円のレコード、発送前に急に9900円に値上げされたし
いやいや4000円の値上げてなんやねん
キャンセルしたけど
製造元とレコード会社全体で結託してどうせプレミアつくから出荷前にプレ値で売ればいいんじゃね？って言う風に変なビジネスなってきてると邪推してしまうわ
8名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:+JDiDJi202023/07/19(水) 21:08:02.92
レコードは残ってもCDは厳しい気がする。できるだけCDで買うけど
9名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6mqx79me02023/07/19(水) 21:15:33.19
レコードジャケットの中にSDカードでいいじゃん
DSD512で収録しておけば各々好きにエンコードするし
DSD512で収録しておけば各々好きにエンコードするし
10名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:XYadDHjP02023/07/19(水) 21:17:56.17
グレタが睨みつけてます
11名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:hM0O/4nq02023/07/19(水) 21:22:37.85
この発想はデカジャケとか言って前からあったけど売れなかったよな
音質で負けるCDがLPより勝ってる所は聞く手間と場所取らない事だろ
音質で負けるCDがLPより勝ってる所は聞く手間と場所取らない事だろ
34名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:CEzIDbHn0
>>11
アマゾンの予約購入特典
アマゾンの予約購入特典
51名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:x85ltbmW0
>>34
でかジャケCDと言って、原寸大で復刻したアナログLPのジャケットにCDを入れて売るって言うのが出たんだけどあまり普及しなかった
でかジャケCDと言って、原寸大で復刻したアナログLPのジャケットにCDを入れて売るって言うのが出たんだけどあまり普及しなかった
12名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:nq52pF1o02023/07/19(水) 21:31:34.29
QRの紙でいいんじゃないか？
13名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uEgYdCr602023/07/19(水) 21:32:09.90
12インチジャケットのCD
松田聖子の再発にあったな
松田聖子の再発にあったな
14名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:MnPpddf402023/07/19(水) 21:40:49.01
ピチカート・ファイヴのアルバムは毎回楽しみだった
15名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0fxZradQ02023/07/19(水) 21:41:43.73
Amazonのメガジャケってそういうこと？
16名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:bCgFd04Y02023/07/19(水) 21:43:21.80
むかしクランプスのラックスインテリアが同じこと言ってたなw
CDは良いけどジャケット小せえって(´・∀・｀)
CDは良いけどジャケット小せえって(´・∀・｀)
17名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:QSMQGx3D02023/07/19(水) 21:47:23.44
これは前にあったろ
ジャケだけデカいCD
売れてたという記憶はない
骨董品的な価値がレコードの溝にあると考えるべきだよ
若者はSPレコードの蓄音機みたいな味わいを感じてるんだろ
ジャケだけデカいCD
売れてたという記憶はない
骨董品的な価値がレコードの溝にあると考えるべきだよ
若者はSPレコードの蓄音機みたいな味わいを感じてるんだろ
18名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Ofim5bAM02023/07/19(水) 21:51:27.18
CDの時代メガヒットが多かったのは物理的に流通しやすくなったのがでかいと思うぞ。
19名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:t5fyImGD02023/07/19(水) 21:53:33.68
円盤もLDサイズに
20名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:n90a5Drs02023/07/19(水) 21:55:20.24
ジャケットだけ売ればいい
本屋で
本屋で
21名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0dvzklLy02023/07/19(水) 21:56:25.00
邪魔だし紛らわしい
22名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:0zBWeQ5b02023/07/19(水) 22:00:11.29
物流への負荷、店に置ける枚数、
家での保管性、なんのメリットもない。
益々売れなくなるだけ。
家での保管性、なんのメリットもない。
益々売れなくなるだけ。
23名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:srDNosoI02023/07/19(水) 22:02:21.25
深く考えずとりあえず言ってみた
24名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WYBZTiaD02023/07/19(水) 22:03:26.34
レコードの音が見直されて売れているのであってジャケットの大きさで売れているわけではない。
音楽を聴くだけならサブスクのハイレゾで普通の人は充分。
拘らなければようつべで充分。インディーズも簡単に参入できる。
ＣＤはフォーマットが古すぎる上、余計な流通在庫を抱えるリスクでもう何のメリットがない。
25名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Xk1VKCsR02023/07/19(水) 22:05:34.32
今のレコードって品質は良くないね(´ω`)
26名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Exicgkxn02023/07/19(水) 22:06:32.53
ソノシートじゃダメなの？
27名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:Xk1VKCsR02023/07/19(水) 22:07:33.89
デジタルマスターからレコード作るんだったら
CDの方が良い(´ω`)
CDの方が良い(´ω`)
28名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:eMb2g65i02023/07/19(水) 22:14:04.91
いま58歳だけど年取ったら何のこだわりも無くなるよｗ
29名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:JOvlity502023/07/19(水) 22:15:39.82
そもそもアナログレコード出しても商売になりにくいってだけの話じゃないの？
30名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:woaoKuRt02023/07/19(水) 22:16:37.29
7インチが2000円超えLP4000円超えが当たり前になっちまってるからなあ
40名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:mE72ush30
>>30
4000円だと
うまくいけば廃盤レコード
3枚買えますなぁ(´・ω・`)
4000円だと
うまくいけば廃盤レコード
3枚買えますなぁ(´・ω・`)
57名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:SRGj/WAI0
>>30
値がついてないのならオリジナル探した方がいいね
劣化したマスターから起こした盤は最先端の処理してようが音も劣るし
値がついてないのならオリジナル探した方がいいね
劣化したマスターから起こした盤は最先端の処理してようが音も劣るし
31名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6HnN29mM02023/07/19(水) 22:17:06.96
YOASOBIのアイドルのCDもレコードサイズやったな
32名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:WUibeHSc02023/07/19(水) 22:28:52.68
90年代にLPサイズで出た坂本龍一のCDがあったが
坂本龍一の表情がひどすぎた
坂本龍一の表情がひどすぎた
37名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:6IEm18YC0
>>32
スイートリヴェンジ
いまだに持ってる
スイートリヴェンジ
いまだに持ってる
33名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:rlWq7E3j02023/07/19(水) 22:39:58.52
邪魔になるだけだわｗ
35名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:McBENeFI02023/07/19(水) 22:53:14.58
まさにGROOVEの意味するところ。
36名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:9RPm5MxY02023/07/19(水) 22:58:09.24
レーザーディスクかよ
38名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:w/TEjuwi02023/07/19(水) 23:00:26.28
ジャケットでかければ
LPでもCDでも何でもええんか
LPでもCDでも何でもええんか
39名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:1GPjLGo502023/07/19(水) 23:02:35.79
僕は、所有感あるんで出来るだけLPレコード購入する上白石萌歌ちゃんッ!!!!!
41名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:McBENeFI02023/07/19(水) 23:10:14.67
レコードプレーヤーいうと80年代コンポかなw
グライコがあってダブルカセットデッキがあって
アンプがあってセレクターなんてのもあったかも。
80年代中盤ともなるとCDプレーヤーが組み込まれ
その、てっぺんにレコードプレーヤーが鎮座してたw
グライコがあってダブルカセットデッキがあって
アンプがあってセレクターなんてのもあったかも。
80年代中盤ともなるとCDプレーヤーが組み込まれ
その、てっぺんにレコードプレーヤーが鎮座してたw
42名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IUDRJUpr02023/07/19(水) 23:37:30.89
でかジャケCDって前からあったよね
43名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:wd5y9LMp02023/07/19(水) 23:40:02.24
物はジャマになる
44名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:NG3IMl7X02023/07/19(水) 23:56:18.05
実家にアナログレコードが多数あるけど良い値段で買い取りしてもらえるのかな？
54名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:VJhxJYvI0
>>44
１枚50円～150円くらい
１枚50円～150円くらい
60名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:2aQYZIFt0
>>44
ものによるから何とも言えんな
ものによるから何とも言えんな
45名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:y1rSahxL02023/07/19(水) 23:56:47.66
とりあえず、CDのプラケース
割れるから
要らんわ💿📀💽
割れるから
要らんわ💿📀💽
46名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OQL5E1nl02023/07/20(木) 00:10:08.23
CDは面倒
ジャケットはどんなサイズでもいいが、音源はハイレゾのFLACと256kbpsのAACの二通りでSDカードに入れてくれれば良い
ジャケットはどんなサイズでもいいが、音源はハイレゾのFLACと256kbpsのAACの二通りでSDカードに入れてくれれば良い
47名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:OQL5E1nl02023/07/20(木) 00:11:17.24
なんだったら音源はダウンロードでもいい
ジャケットは好きなサイズで
ジャケットは好きなサイズで
48名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:I0jgekZX02023/07/20(木) 00:26:24.35
そもそも若者はCDプレーヤーもってない
49名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:uKxOB+Eb02023/07/20(木) 01:05:40.08
ディスクのサイズもレコードぐらいにすれば
50名無しさん＠恐縮ですID:IeofDxRn0
>>49
それレーザーディスク(´ω`)
それレーザーディスク(´ω`)
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