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ジャニーズ前社長の性加害問題で元タレント7人が「ジャニーズ性加害問題当事者の会」を結成

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1muffin ★ID:8Bd4SlFU92023/07/14(金) 17:34:46.97
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/4fbddbe1d15ed30b9e0280bafe6ca13d4bd80c38
7/14(金) 15:59配信 共同通信

ジャニーズ事務所のジャニー喜多川前社長(2019年死去)による性加害問題を巡り、被害を訴える元タレントら7人が「ジャニーズ性加害問題当事者の会」を結成したことが14日、代表を務める元ジャニーズJr.の平本淳也さん(57)らへの取材で分かった。

同会は「事務所は責任を取らず、被害は今も継続している。事件は『昔のこと』ではありません」とコメント。これまで個別に被害を訴えてきた当事者同士が連帯し、ジャニーズ事務所に対して加害の事実を認めて謝罪するよう求めるという。同事務所は一層苦しい立場に追い込まれそうだ。

当事者の会は、これまでメディアの取材や政党のヒアリングなどで被害を訴えてきた二本樹顕理さん(39)と中村一也さん(36)が発起人となり、9日に発足。元ジャニーズの石丸志門さん(55)も参加し、今後さらに増える見通しという。

メンバーは、国連人権理事会の「ビジネスと人権」作業部会の専門家が今月24日に来日し、聞き取りに乗り出すことを歓迎している。

平本淳也さん
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https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/4fbddbe1d15ed30b9e0280bafe6ca13d4bd80c38

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94名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jFtaO6ei0
>>1
もう飽きた
寝るわ
おまえら早く寝ないと
明日会社や学校に遅れるぞ
201名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PZz+v2OI0
>>94
寝るのが早いわ
105名無しさん@恐縮ですID:65V1agk80
>>1
被害は今も継続しているってどういうこと?
だったら警察に訴えりゃいいじゃん
なんでしないの?
107名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nIcSn/VQ0
>>1
とにかく応援しています

あと山下達郎は引退した方が良い

185名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IZ0jKfux0
>>1

やっとジャニーズ事務所の関与しなあ組織が、出来たか。
エプスタイン事件と、同じくらい重大な事案なのに。

190名無しさん@恐縮ですID:A7YvxQzk0
>>1
応援してます
頑張って!!!!

ジャニーズ事務所を許さない

2名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gISxFZPi02023/07/14(金) 17:35:36.38
穴セブン
37名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4eGRXcvQ0
>>2
誹謗中傷
3名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zjRew5W102023/07/14(金) 17:35:39.64
SNSでは以前から、ryuchellさんへ誹謗中傷のコメントをする人がおり、そして今回、亡くなったことを受けてコメントやアカウントを削除する動きが一部で見られた。

これに対してネット上では「今の時代『匿名だから何をやってもいい』なんて通用しねぇよ」「心無い誹謗中傷が沢山あったことでしょう、Twitterで誹謗中傷したネット弁慶達が必死にツイート削除…どんな気持ちで削除してるんでしょうね」「SNSで誹謗中傷書いてる人急いで削除してるけど、もう遅いよ」「人前に出る仕事や立場の人は誹謗中傷されても当たり前でしょ?みたいな考えは絶対間違ってる」「コメント削除している奴、だったら最初からやるなよ!」などと、誹謗中傷をしていた人へ批判の声が相次いでいる。

LGBT叩きといえばネトウヨだね
自民維新支持層だね

39名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mYO64TtE0
>>3 >>5
パヨクマスゴミの自作自演、肝ぃわ~
43名無しさん@恐縮ですID://OWsWRA0
>>39
talkに追放されたんじゃなかったのか?
54名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uDcwHVH30
>>3
LGBT? 権利あるよね、他の人と同等の
ただ俺にもホモは大嫌いだ、と言う権利はある
174名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TVVEkYCg0
>>3
LGBT叩きといえばネトウヨだね
自民維新支持層だね

こういう書き込みがあるから過剰な書き込みしてるのが誰かを探りたいんだと思う
カルトなのか他国経由なのか

4名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FM0qLyao02023/07/14(金) 17:35:42.92
児童虐待メディアはジャニーズ問題は法的に問えないなどと
大嘘をついたり自らの検証を行わない前提で取ってつけた謝罪を
繰り返しているがこれが現在進行形で行われているメディアの実態

> 元ジャニーズ ジュニアの
> カウアン氏はジャニーズの性被害
> について語ると同時に「ジャニーズ以外でも
> AKBと関わったりとか、グラビアと
> 関わったりとかするけど枕だらけじゃないですか。
> みんな大人は知ってるけど」

> 「もう本人から直接泣きながら
> 被害を聞くんで、女の子たちも」 「女の子は
> 枕半端ないですよね。多いです。16歳とか17歳
> とか高校生とかで挨拶しに行ってって部屋行ったら
> もうボスや編集者が待ってて、
> 大人3人いて動画撮ってるみたいな

5名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zjRew5W102023/07/14(金) 17:35:45.18
SNSでは以前から、ryuchellさんへ誹謗中傷のコメントをする人がおり、そして今回、亡くなったことを受けてコメントやアカウントを削除する動きが一部で見られた。

これに対してネット上では「今の時代『匿名だから何をやってもいい』なんて通用しねぇよ」「心無い誹謗中傷が沢山あったことでしょう、Twitterで誹謗中傷したネット弁慶達が必死にツイート削除…どんな気持ちで削除してるんでしょうね」「SNSで誹謗中傷書いてる人急いで削除してるけど、もう遅いよ」「人前に出る仕事や立場の人は誹謗中傷されても当たり前でしょ?みたいな考えは絶対間違ってる」「コメント削除している奴、だったら最初からやるなよ!」などと、誹謗中傷をしていた人へ批判の声が相次いでいる。

LGBT叩きといえばネトウヨだね
自民維新支持層だね

39名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mYO64TtE0
>>3 >>5
パヨクマスゴミの自作自演、肝ぃわ~
43名無しさん@恐縮ですID://OWsWRA0
>>39
talkに追放されたんじゃなかったのか?
6名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mm80bk0a02023/07/14(金) 17:36:18.41
母体はペンライトと共産赤旗?笑

あ、地図飯島文春もか。

7名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XkDHlSyl02023/07/14(金) 17:36:25.16
こういうのって金目当て?
12名無しさん@恐縮ですID:U0xfXh1O0
>>7
正義感だな
自分が黙ってきて被害者を増やしてしまった罪悪感と
これからはこんなことがあってはならないという責任
45名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ArxXFODD0
>>7
自分たち以外にも被害者が沢山いるんだから金にはならんやろ
145名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KTd6uUMY0
>>7
被害者なんだから当たり前
泣き寝入りさせないことが重要
183名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fLuNec4/0
>>7
自分が被害者の立場だったらどう思うか考えてみれば
184名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fLuNec4/0
>>7
自分が被害者の立場だったらどう思うか考えてみれば
244名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UW2oZPlA0
>>7
あの市民団体とか見るといろいろ見えてくるけど言うのやめとく
たぶん背景知らないで踊ってる人多数
275名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NjWvFzr/0
>>7
それしかないだろう誰も被害届も告訴もせずに週刊誌とか金になることしかしてないんだから
共同通信の奴に半年ぶりに肉を食わせてもらったとか言ってたし
メンバー見ても胡散臭いのしかいない
276名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YXw3TWq10
>>7
犯罪被害の回復には金銭による損害賠償しかない
というのが日本の司法の決まり
これは自己救済の禁止を法律で決めた時から被害者の正当な権利であって
金目当てとかいう批判は無知を晒してるだけだよ
295名無しさん@恐縮ですID:NjWvFzr/0
>>276
権利の前にその司法の判決でてないじゃん
告訴せずただ週刊誌や暴露本ではなして報酬もらってるだけ
今までだれも告訴した奴がいないってのがこの問題の最大の不自然なところなんだよ
証言だけで金を引き出そうとしてるのが異常、しかもこの7人皆証言に矛盾ある奴ばかり
304名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YXw3TWq10
>>295
週刊誌って基本的に報酬でないよ(笑)
293名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G8owxF3S0
>>7
>>10
個人差あるけど
当時の法律だと同意でも14才未満は強姦罪になる罪のあれかな?
でも男だから強制わいせつ罪?

それとも合意の一種になる?
デビューと引き換えに性的なことの取引みたいな?

道徳的には問題として当時の刑法だと何罪なの?
あとジャニー喜多川が生きてたとしたら時効なん?

303名無しさん@恐縮ですID:75n4R7et0
>>7
石丸って爺さんは
生花受けてて
死ぬまで中流で暮らせる金貰いたいと
言ってたよ。
車はホンダのが欲しいとも言ってた。
売れなかった連中が何とか金せしめようとしてる。
306名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hScw2GMd0
318名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PCwwrBmi0
>>306 服部さんは被害者の会に名前ないけど入ってるのかな
服部さんも含め有名人が参加せんと支持集まらんと思う、現実問題
319名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UiQljW2b0
>>306
同意
その通り
8名無しさん@恐縮ですID:J3T/ly7p02023/07/14(金) 17:36:36.82
いいぞ
もっと騒ぎを大きくして忖度カスゴミをうろたえさせろ
9名無しさん@恐縮ですID:OdZf1SIB02023/07/14(金) 17:36:42.54
七本槍
10名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bbOlB2W+02023/07/14(金) 17:36:57.85
これはジャニーズを盛り上げて生贄を誘い込む手助けしたテレビ局も訴えられるパターンになりそうw
14名無しさん@恐縮ですID:9eRKvt5R0
>>10
国連総会で日本のマスゴミ全社に対する経済制裁っていうパターンもあるで
123名無しさん@恐縮ですID:pakOGtT70
>>14
それはない。
293名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G8owxF3S0
>>7
>>10
個人差あるけど
当時の法律だと同意でも14才未満は強姦罪になる罪のあれかな?
でも男だから強制わいせつ罪?

それとも合意の一種になる?
デビューと引き換えに性的なことの取引みたいな?

道徳的には問題として当時の刑法だと何罪なの?
あとジャニー喜多川が生きてたとしたら時効なん?

11名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UK0K6Ts/02023/07/14(金) 17:36:58.14
山下達郎どうすんのこれ
21名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nlf0btSe0
>>11
何も関係ない
13名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jN5tJznR02023/07/14(金) 17:37:37.43
集団訴訟しそう
15名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WSKOdlat02023/07/14(金) 17:39:05.41
山下達郎「憶測でそんな会を一方的に作ってはいかんよ、ジャニーさんは尊敬できる人」
25名無しさん@恐縮ですID:f1sXkaBv0
>>15
流布
101名無しさん@恐縮ですID:f9TMNVlH0
>>15
ジャニさんの触手が向かない人間には害が無いからな
16名無しさん@恐縮ですID:b/Par/Qq02023/07/14(金) 17:39:52.94
七英ケツ
17名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tbnal/Y802023/07/14(金) 17:39:58.00
引っ込みがつかなくなったのかな
18名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6/Txdmzz02023/07/14(金) 17:40:08.59
岡本カウアンはちょっと名前売って元同じグループだった平野紫耀辺りを見返す&ビジネスに繋がればいいな程度の告発だったのがめちゃくちゃ大事になって困惑してそうじゃね?
これからもケツクリーム問題の矢面にずっと立たなきゃならんし
19名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uc/DvGLN02023/07/14(金) 17:40:09.53
タッキーどうすんのこれ
20名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ELOVJd0h02023/07/14(金) 17:40:11.11
この会は賛同するけど国連の方から来た人たちには期待しないほうがいいぞ
22名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2kFipVXF02023/07/14(金) 17:40:37.42
でも具体的な証拠は無いんだよね
被害者とされる人の証言だけで物事が進むのは危険
24名無しさん@恐縮ですID:U0xfXh1O0
>>22
なかなかレイプされながら動画回すのは難しいもんなあ
248名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UW2oZPlA0
>>22
ぶっちゃけ、これは盲信するのに従軍慰安婦は全否定するやつとか基準が分からんわ
23名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eTbdbJl002023/07/14(金) 17:41:50.16
とりあえず応援する
26名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ogCqxBW702023/07/14(金) 17:42:50.87
会発足するのはいいが、最終目的を明確にしないと金銭目的だろって叩かれるよ

まさか、金目的じゃないんだろうけどね

35名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PCwwrBmi0
>>26 ほんこれ。法的には時効の壁あるから、ほぼ刑事は無理でしょ
社会運動みたいにしたいなら、ランドマークとなる有名人が居ないと弱と思う
48名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oikMqrPx0
>>26
金銭目的でいいんじゃないの?
ジャニー喜多川から性被害をうけて病院に通ったんなら治療費は払ってもわないと…当たり前の事じゃん
55名無しさん@恐縮ですID:4eGRXcvQ0
>>26
被害者が金を要求するのは正当な行為だろう
27名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mE8ShWOe02023/07/14(金) 17:43:04.86
まじ全員だれ?
28名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/P+jlyOS02023/07/14(金) 17:43:11.06
同情するなら金をくれ!
29名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ZMUAcREl02023/07/14(金) 17:44:01.70
さっさと裁判起こせよ
判決確定した件以外は疑惑でしかないぞ
33名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Alt80Bp10
>>29
それよ
34名無しさん@恐縮ですID:U0xfXh1O0
>>33
ジャニー死んでるから無理なんだよなあ
30名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FA/TLTP502023/07/14(金) 17:44:38.04
被害者の会VS加害者の会
31名無しさん@恐縮ですID:us7OQ6Co02023/07/14(金) 17:44:42.78
国連人権委員会の調査も始まるし、まだまだ続くよ
社長が一回も会見しない異常な会社
そんな会社とこれからもよろしくズブズブやりたい早くほとぼり冷めて欲しいメディア そうはいかんよ
125名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xcIKSm7R0
>>31
マスゴミ(笑)
32名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oUtTIeIQ02023/07/14(金) 17:44:48.45
死人に口なし・・・
36名無しさん@恐縮ですID:oUtTIeIQ02023/07/14(金) 17:46:53.68
見て見ぬふりをしてきた反日TBSを筆頭とするマスゴミを糾弾すべきでは?
38名無しさん@恐縮ですID:byIPSnNn02023/07/14(金) 17:47:29.76
ジャニの社名変更と謝罪でミッションコンプリートやろ
つーかさっさと社名変えろや
40名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uDcwHVH302023/07/14(金) 17:49:21.55
ジャニ、事務所、甘い汁を吸ったホモ餓鬼を糾弾するためならおやりください

ただ、これで金儲けしようと思うならジャニやホモ餓鬼と同類です

41名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CTyBXg5M02023/07/14(金) 17:49:24.18
てかデビュー組の中にジャニー喜多川に加担してた加害者が混ざってるからちゃんと堀り起こせよ
42名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PCwwrBmi02023/07/14(金) 17:50:10.98
国連なんとかさん達も調査とか言っても何の行政権も持ってない
だろうし、人権派弁護士団でも無報酬でやってくれるのか
弁護団金かかるぞ現実問題
49名無しさん@恐縮ですID:byIPSnNn0
>>42
ただ国際的なイメージは最悪になるからスポンサーが離れたりする
44名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7LtHmuyx02023/07/14(金) 17:50:28.08
そういや、PENLIGHTが話題にもならなくなったな
68名無しさん@恐縮ですID:O6kLOwYE0
>>44
本人達がこういう行動をしたら、もう何をしても目立たなくなるんじゃないか?
82名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AU1F+rRr0
>>44
隠れただけとも言う。
相変わらず見えないところで彼らを操っているよ。
46名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EwZIaqyc02023/07/14(金) 17:51:00.06
ビビりの加害者擁護が湧いとるのおw
まずは国連の聞き取り調査にどう対応するか考えとけヨw
(´・∀・`)
47名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FM0qLyao02023/07/14(金) 17:51:01.97
児童虐待メディアはジャニーズ問題は法的に問えないなどと
大嘘をついたり自らの検証を行わない前提で取ってつけた謝罪を
繰り返しているがこれが現在進行形で行われているメディアの実態

> 元ジャニーズ ジュニアの
> カウアン氏はジャニーズの性被害
> について語ると同時に「ジャニーズ以外でも
> AKBと関わったりとか、グラビアと
> 関わったりとかするけど枕だらけじゃないですか。
> みんな大人は知ってるけど」

> 「もう本人から直接泣きながら
> 被害を聞くんで、女の子たちも」 「女の子は
> 枕半端ないですよね。多いです。16歳とか17歳
> とか高校生とかで挨拶しに行ってって部屋行ったら
> もうボスや編集者が待ってて、
> 大人3人いて動画撮ってるみたいな

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