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“本場”を知る宮市亮がJリーグ活性化を考える「向こうは娯楽がサッカーしかなくて」「(日本では)空席が目立つ試合もありますし」

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1八百坂先生 ★ID:gPJhpGUv92023/07/04(火) 07:05:17.86
「スタジアムをヨーロッパ仕様にしても、見に来る人がいなかったら盛り上がりもない」

シーズン移行にビッグクラブ構想――。Jリーグは今、サッカーの最先端である欧州を念頭に置いた取り組みをスタートさせようとしている。

海外経験が豊富な宮市亮(横浜F・マリノス)が、ザンクトパウリ時代のサポーターに関する話の流れで、変化への率直な思いを明かしてくれた。

プロキャリアをスタートさせたアーセナルを皮切りに、様々なクラブでプレーしていますが、特にサポーターの圧を感じたスタジアムはありますか?

「圧と言えば、ザンクトパウリのスタジアムですね。暴動が起こっちゃうかなくらい。でも過激にも愛があるので。
ハンブルクとダービーがある時とかは、本当にすごい。試合前に絶対発煙筒が投げられるので、早く試合が始まってくれみたいな。
これがヨーロッパのサッカーだなとワクワクした部分はありますね」

――Jリーグをさらに盛り上げていくために、欧州仕様と言いますか、もっとアウェー感を出していくのも1つの手かなと思います。

「僕はあんまり欧州に寄っていかなくてもいいのかなと思います。海外から帰ってきて、日本はまず文化が違うなと。やっぱりサッカー文化は向こうよりは根付いてないので、まずそこを根付かせないといけない。
スポーツとエンターテインメントでいくと、日本はエンターテインメントのほうが強いので。そこと融合して、もっとサッカーを、Jリーグを認知してもらう、そこからまず始めていかないと。

ヨーロッパには追いついていかない…というより、別に追いついていく必要もないのかな。日本は日本の道を探して、JリーグはJリーグの良さっていう。
結局、スタジアムをヨーロッパ仕様にしても、見に来る人がいなかったら盛り上がりもないので。
まずはどんどん、どんどん歴史を築いていって、もうちょっと先かなと僕は思っています」

――ビッグクラブを生み出そうとする考えはどうですか?

「色んな意見はありますし、色々議論することで活性化していけばいいと思いますけど、向こうは本当に…なんだろうな、娯楽がサッカーしかなくて、スタジアムが埋まってないことはないので。

やっぱり(日本では)空席が目立つ試合もありますし、まだそこまで根付いてないなと、日本に帰ってきて、正直なところ、思っています。

まずはそこの認知度から。やっぱり日本は野球やエンターテインメント、アーティストや音楽と色々分散してしまうので、難しいところではありますけど…。
色んな力を借りながら、サッカー界だけじゃなくて、色んな業界を巻き込んでいって、Jリーグに目を向けていって、日本独自の道を行ったらいいんじゃないかなと思います」

7/4(火) 5:00配信 サッカーダイジェストWeb
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/14c76f4b84eb958ae7c42f808991b1cc389543b6

引用元:https://hayabusa9.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1688421917/

2名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/4i0KCil02023/07/04(火) 07:06:35.54
30周年なのに今年もガラガラだもんな
3名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dCkvWTPn02023/07/04(火) 07:07:26.44
サカ豚w
4名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G73TpQ4d02023/07/04(火) 07:08:29.12
ロンドンの話かと思った
5名無しさん@恐縮ですID:toKCyRrd02023/07/04(火) 07:09:40.57
宮市、お前サカ豚に目つけられるぞ
34名無しさん@恐縮ですID:w1y+HXEm0
こ、この程度のトークでこういうレスがつくのか…>>5,12,16,18

サッカーのサポーターってどんだけレベルが低いんだよ。

37名無しさん@恐縮ですID:tnsatpKZ0
>>34
なにを発狂してるんだこの知的障害
38名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FeXsLvEA0
>>34
どう見てもサッカーファンのレスじゃないだろ
6名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1NWxScwp02023/07/04(火) 07:09:46.56
2部3部でも客入り凄いもんなチケも安いらしいが
7名無しさん@恐縮ですID:RO3i3tvl02023/07/04(火) 07:09:54.81
娯楽がサッカーしかないのは寂しいな
8名無しさん@恐縮ですID:POkxwa+p02023/07/04(火) 07:11:46.53
サッカーや野球を見るよりスロットを打ってるほうが楽しいもん
9名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LXFFNVfI02023/07/04(火) 07:12:00.57
サウジのせいでヨーロッパでサッカー人気下がると思う
10名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nIIDrZRo02023/07/04(火) 07:12:30.13
日本とヨーロッパは違うと言うなら
Jリーグは日本市場向けにローカライズすべきまで言わないと
日本で一番成功してるプロスポーツ「日本プロ野球」の良いところを学ぼうぐらい言わないと
11名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mle5WYXO02023/07/04(火) 07:12:31.89
欧州に無理に寄って行かなくていい

サカ豚より現実見えてるな

12名無しさん@恐縮ですID:l9Njb6of02023/07/04(火) 07:13:02.75
サッカー選手で娯楽がサッカーしか云々言う人が出てくるとは

こういう人が協会の上層部にいるといいのに

13名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8TzzK5ht02023/07/04(火) 07:13:40.52
宮市焼き豚認定されそうw
14名無しさん@恐縮ですID:0/4vCA7702023/07/04(火) 07:15:45.87
ドイツ丹生と比較する意味自体がないだろ
15名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CGA6MDUh02023/07/04(火) 07:16:10.39
マリノスだっけ?
箱大きいのもあるけどそれでも日産ガラガラだもんな
16名無しさん@恐縮ですID:v6i72i0u02023/07/04(火) 07:16:14.52
ものすごく現実的な視点を持ってる人だけどJリーグ側にとっては都合の悪い話だわなあ
17名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cCKhGj4c02023/07/04(火) 07:16:19.82
こないだのゴールは泣けた
18名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qvWsMGHB02023/07/04(火) 07:17:47.46
娯楽がサッカーしかないので、仕方なくスタジアムに行くだけなのか
真実が語られたわ
31名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VpRWClC00
>>18
サッカー以外何も無いわけねえだろ。サッカーだけが突出して人気があるって意味だとなぜ分からん?
39名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3GQEq8iA0
>>31

娯楽はサッカーしかないとはっきり言ってるだろ馬鹿
48名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+UtVRS0o0
>>39
宮市が知らないだけだろ
19名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nIIDrZRo02023/07/04(火) 07:17:48.81
トップリーグのクラブは大都市圏に限定で、ホームタウンを広域化する
トップリーグは降格制廃止
クラブ名に企業名を付けるのを解禁

下部リーグはスタジアム基準を大幅に緩和
既存の陸上競技場を改修して使用できるようにする

これぐらいは素人でも思いつく

20名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6tyeK4ge02023/07/04(火) 07:17:54.98
サッカーかドラッグかセックスしかないもんな
21名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zMTmMJX402023/07/04(火) 07:18:33.26
選手はよくわかってる

協会とジャーナリストとサカ豚は時代オクレのバカばかり

22名無しさん@恐縮ですID:v1j+lJQX02023/07/04(火) 07:19:53.36
宮市はちゃんと見えてるな
ルックスもいいし、引退後も仕事ありそう
23名無しさん@恐縮ですID:w1y+HXEm02023/07/04(火) 07:21:42.61
あんたはトラックのことだけ言ってればよい。
24名無しさん@恐縮ですID:81ce5ipu02023/07/04(火) 07:21:54.31
サッカーは自由に発言できる
良い健全
25名無しさん@恐縮ですID:w8+NB8F302023/07/04(火) 07:23:40.64
まあ娯楽が少ないというのはあるかもね
日本はやるやらないはともかくエンタメはなんでもある
26名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7ZVbJmNO02023/07/04(火) 07:24:17.24
ヨーロッパはどんな弱小国リーグのクラブでも頑張ればCLに出れるという夢がある
でもJリーグ及び他のアジアはどんなに頑張ってもACLだから夢がない
27名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fK2XGNT302023/07/04(火) 07:24:23.01
今はJ、と言うか日本サッカー全体がDAZNに引きこもっちゃって好きな人だけ見れれば良い、ってスタイルだもんな
そりゃ文化云々の前に日本にサッカーが根付く訳が無い
28名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YlpdTk/A02023/07/04(火) 07:25:19.24
その通り
日本は世界屈指のエンタメが豊富な国
ドイツ人は質実剛健でエンタメにはあまり傾倒しないからな
そういうドイツ人を独占できるような環境だからサッカーが人気ある
29名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zio8bqIY02023/07/04(火) 07:25:36.63
これ奥寺や風間とか出てた
なんかの
対談でも言ってたな
欧州には娯楽がないとか
プレミア経験者の宮市も
言うならイギリスも含めてなんかな
30名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mGcZaaY402023/07/04(火) 07:26:12.34
本場の空気を吸ってきただけ
32名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ACJxxHyW02023/07/04(火) 07:27:49.01
流石長くいただけあって現実見えてるな
現地社会の最底辺労働者階級しか見に来ないのが現実
33名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zio8bqIY02023/07/04(火) 07:28:15.68
35名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+UtVRS0o02023/07/04(火) 07:28:35.79
ヨーロッパはバレーやバスケも日本より強いしな
36名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VAwa0WqJ02023/07/04(火) 07:29:03.47
八百坂先生、はやぃんだからぁー
キャッ、エッチ!
40名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zF8Um40C02023/07/04(火) 07:29:47.21
ヨーロッパをよく知ってればこそヨーロッパの悪い面もよく知ってるわけだしな
41名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zOAII1aF02023/07/04(火) 07:30:24.95
サッカーはサポのウザさが…ね?
42名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YlpdTk/A02023/07/04(火) 07:30:36.54
因みににユニバーサルスタジオはヨーロッパに一つもない
ディズニーランドはパリだけ
43名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FeXsLvEA02023/07/04(火) 07:30:39.94
真の意味で日本でサッカーが根付いた地域は浦和と新潟
44名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hP0/4K3s02023/07/04(火) 07:31:08.54
>>サッカーの最先端である欧州を念頭に置いた取り組みをスタートさせようとしている。

>>僕はあんまり欧州に寄っていかなくてもいいのかなと思います。海外から帰ってきて、日本はまず文化が違うなと。

元も子もないw

45名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+UtVRS0o02023/07/04(火) 07:32:04.14
アーティストや音楽と色々分散して

宮市くんはヨーロッパのアーティスト知らないだけやw

46名無しさん@恐縮ですID:rB04mtbY02023/07/04(火) 07:32:47.68
要は日本はアメスポ文化なんだよ
サッカーはいろんな球技やエンタメのうちの1つでしかない
ヨーロッパはサッカー至上主義で他のスポーツはアマチュアかセミプロ
47名無しさん@恐縮ですID:eTrIaj0z02023/07/04(火) 07:33:04.42
イングランドでもフランスでも同じらしいよ
サッカー=貧乏人のスポーツだから
ちょっ年収のクラスが上の層はまるで興味ないし大嫌いだと
分かりやすくいうと今フランスで暴動起こしてる連中ぐらいしかサッカー興味ないらしい
49名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7ZDXRqwI02023/07/04(火) 07:33:27.87
サッカーしか娯楽がないとか地獄やん。
プロ野球も観てるけと、野球もサッカーも試合の無い月曜日なんてめっちゃ早寝しちゃうわ。
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