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「アホ!バカ!」堀江貴文氏の荒っぽい言動に唖然…サロン会員も懸念する“劣化説”の真偽

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1ネギうどん ★ID:NeUis1eB92023/06/29(木) 12:59:19.33
ホリエモンこと実業家の堀江貴文氏(50)について「異変」が囁かれている。

「このところ堀江さんの発言を見ていると、『どうかしちゃったんじゃないか』と思うことが度々あるんですよ」と語るのは、堀江氏のオンラインサロンの会員でもある出版関係者だ。20年来のファンだという同関係者だが、最近の言動には懸念すべき点もあるとか。そのひとつが、3年前にYouTubeで生配信した「バーベキュー動画」。

「視聴者からの『野菜を食べててエラい』という何気ないコメントに、堀江さんは『死ね! バカ!』とブチ切れ。何度もカメラを殴り『野菜は美味しいから食べるんだよ!』と怒鳴り散らしていました。いまだに何が堀江さんの癇に障ったのか分かりません」(同)

ツイッターでの言いたい放題も相変わらず。

「先日、薬物で逮捕された永山絢斗容疑者について、兄で俳優の永山瑛太さんが『許さない』と発言したニュース記事を引用して『アホやん』とツイートしていました。わざわざ身内同士の話に突っかかるのは違和感がありました。さらに『何がアホなのか』とレスを付けた一般人を『文脈読めないアホが』と罵倒していた。もともと堀江氏は著書で『大麻解禁』のメリットを訴えていて、それを踏まえると言いたいことも理解できるのですが、いきなり『アホ』は堀江氏の“信者”以外には意味が通じないでしょう」(同)

さらに、堀江氏はコロナ禍でのマスクを「うんこパンツ」と揶揄したり、「ChatGPT有害論」を唱えた“カリスマ教育ママ”佐藤亮子氏を「こいつバカ」とこき下ろした。同関係者は「昔の堀江氏はもう少し理路整然としていた」として「ロジック面での劣化が感じられる」と指摘する。はたして堀江氏は本当に「劣化」しているのか——。

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100名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dO6FMZd80
>>1
>「視聴者からの『野菜を食べててエラい』という何気ないコメントに、堀江さんは『死ね! バカ!』とブチ切れ。何度もカメラを殴り『野菜は美味しいから食べるんだよ!』と怒鳴り散らしていました。いまだに何が堀江さんの癇に障ったのか分かりません」(同)

ファンなのに分からんのか
本当にファンなのか

101名無しさん@恐縮ですID:dO6FMZd80
>>1
>「ChatGPT有害論」を唱えた“カリスマ教育ママ”佐藤亮子氏を「こいつバカ」とこき下ろした。同関係者は「昔の堀江氏はもう少し理路整然としていた」として「ロジック面での劣化が感じられる」と指摘する。はたして堀江氏は本当に「劣化」しているのか——。

論理的に説明するのが無駄な話ってのもあるだろ
何でもいちいち説明しないといけないのか

40名無しさん@恐縮ですID:fzerQBFJ0
>>1
夜の11時くらいですかね、突然堀江さんから「ひろゆきお前暇か?」って電話がかかってきたんですよね。
「いや寝る所だったんですけど」って答えたら「今可愛い子とホテルに行く所なんだけどお前も来てくれ」って言うんですよ。
それで、ちょっと期待しながらホテル行ってみたら、結構可愛い子で僕もちょっとやる気になっちゃったんですよね。
でもシャワー浴びて準備してベッドに行ってみたらなんとその子チンコ付いてたんですよ!(笑)
「堀江さん、この子男じゃないですか!」って文句言ったら「可愛ければいいじゃねぇか!」って怒るんですよ。
でもまあ堀江さんの言うことも一理あるなって。ニューハーフのお尻に入れるのもまた経験だなと思ってたら、堀江さんが「なあひろゆき、俺に入れて貰うことできるか」って言うんですよ!できる訳ないじゃないですか!
「前と後ろ両方から責めて欲しい。前を触るのは流石にお前でも嫌がると思った」って。
なんなんだよその心遣い。(笑)
普通は中年のおっさんのチンコ触りたくないしお尻にも入れたくないですよ。
結局僕はニューハーフの子にフェラチオだけしてもらって帰ってきました。
もう二度と行きません。(笑)
90名無しさん@恐縮ですID:U2OFtNtb0
>>1
コロナワクチン打ってから人格変わった奴はままいる
27名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FONLjYd40
>>1
わかるわかる
以前はそんなに人を見下したりしてなかった
2名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KbXVraG002023/06/29(木) 12:59:40.04
高卒は攻撃的
3名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7414vh5n02023/06/29(木) 13:02:47.38
鳥羽の件もそう思った
コロナ後遺症ちゃうか?
4名無しさん@恐縮ですID:aC+5qEy/02023/06/29(木) 13:03:08.30
ホラレモンの小学生化
5名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Y/Ezjzj+02023/06/29(木) 13:05:10.15
俺は頭が良いと思ってる奴は年取ってくると人を見下して威張り散らすようになるよね
6名無しさん@恐縮ですID:O98B+21a02023/06/29(木) 13:07:00.90
speakeasyに良く出てるけど
文芸関係だとまともに会話してるし、想いも伝わってきて
SNSイメージとの違いに驚く
7名無しさん@恐縮ですID:veVT85yd02023/06/29(木) 13:12:03.87
野菜食え野菜 (・∀・)っ 🌽🍅🍆🥔🥒🥕🥑🥦🥬🧅🥗
8名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PpXRnfbs02023/06/29(木) 13:13:30.89
圧倒的な野菜不足
9名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1OUVRGhz02023/06/29(木) 13:16:54.97
堀江氏とは関係無いけど
アスペルガーって加齢による脳の劣化が早い説があるね
10名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hATKNOCs02023/06/29(木) 13:16:58.13
もともと堀江は感情的だけど、怒りっぽい人って歳とってくると酷いものになってしまうんだよね
怒りの感情の発露がさらにゲスタイプを呼び寄せどんどん堀江の怒りが増えて精神がおかしくなってしまう
怒りの感情は血流を一気に増やしてしまうけど、脳内には細い血管なんかも多くて血流の変化は血管の劣化に繋がる
そこら辺が破損することで脳の劣化も早まる
11名無しさん@恐縮ですID:2idJd5Tj02023/06/29(木) 13:18:01.09
「アホ、バカ、マヌケ お前の母ちゃんデベソだったぞ」
12名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hATKNOCs02023/06/29(木) 13:19:55.45
タモリは人間関係のコツを「他人に期待しすぎないこと 期待するから裏切られた時に失望する」って言ってたけど、
ホリエは自分が思い通りに生きたい為に他人への期待が大きすぎるんよ
それが邪魔されるごとに怒ってストレスを貯めてっていう精神に良くないことを続けてる
人間に限らず動物はストレスによって精神だけでなく体調もおかしくなるようにできてる
13名無しさん@恐縮ですID:49Vw7DVS02023/06/29(木) 13:20:18.66
ひろゆきと一緒に生ごみとして廃棄しよう
17名無しさん@恐縮ですID:sxmb582j0
>>13
屠殺場送りでいいな
14名無しさん@恐縮ですID:EtOHIuzi02023/06/29(木) 13:23:27.15
ホリエモンとか鈴木宗男がなんで許されてるかわからん

別に一般の仕事はいいと思うけどあれだけ刑務所入ってたら会社員ならクビですわ

言ってる事も意味不明だし
なんかスポンサーかなんかいるの?

35名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nspWjKgL0
>>14
堀江とか絶対に会社員なんて勤まらないタイプだから起業したんだよ
だから会社員の常識やルールなんかクソ喰らえってしか思ってないし
15名無しさん@恐縮ですID:m+PWWBKa02023/06/29(木) 13:32:38.77
誰だって、更年期が来るとイライラしやすいからしゃーないやろ
16名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1uc+Hnio02023/06/29(木) 13:34:43.32
他の資産家や起業家から相手されないのわかる野菜食え
18名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lhCbrND+02023/06/29(木) 13:43:40.87
今のところ小麦の奴隷のカレーパンくらいか、上手く行ってるのは
でもあれ、パン粉じゃなくてクルトンだからねぇ

そんなの買うよか地元の店のかなり辛口のカレーパンとかキーマカレーパン買うわ
堀江のとこより安いし

19名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Es9LqxD102023/06/29(木) 13:44:00.12
人格攻撃しか取り柄がない
20名無しさん@恐縮ですID:GNNtyVZr02023/06/29(木) 13:46:03.12
前科持ちのクズやし
21名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ncgEPwYQ02023/06/29(木) 13:49:38.66
ホリエモンが犯罪者ってこと知らない人おるやろなぁ
死人まで出てるし
22名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ws1WSwF602023/06/29(木) 13:51:52.18
このところ?
昔から汚言症みたいな感じじゃん
23名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3HQrMp5l02023/06/29(木) 13:52:13.70
頭が良いから、周りが馬鹿ばかりに思えて
イライラしてアタマにくるんだろうな・・・
24名無しさん@恐縮ですID:kgi6sAq/02023/06/29(木) 13:54:24.73
口は災いのもと

むやみやたらと敵を作るもんじやない

25名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lUqR5zsB02023/06/29(木) 13:58:12.14
結局この人って飯屋の大将なんだよね
26名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iHQz1gE/02023/06/29(木) 14:01:41.74
立花と付き合ってるしな
28名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3HQrMp5l02023/06/29(木) 14:06:24.77
10kくらいダイエットしたらどうかな?
刑務所出てきた時、カッコイイと思ったんだけど
29名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6TVCkEKc02023/06/29(木) 14:06:48.82
イライラするのはカルシウムが足りないから
野菜を食べなさい
30名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7uwdKvts02023/06/29(木) 14:08:17.09
ちんこ、うんこ、オナラとかも言ってそう
31名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bGqKdDm602023/06/29(木) 14:09:01.84
生理か?
32名無しさん@恐縮ですID:miEE8gMe02023/06/29(木) 14:11:04.93
今の堀江ならむこうぶちに出た堀江モデルのキャラのことも本気で怒り狂いそうだよな
33名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HiqR71gf02023/06/29(木) 14:42:24.12
劣化老化
34名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zasl/VsP02023/06/29(木) 14:54:58.50
ほんとのアホとバカに対してアホバカ言ってるんだから、間違ってないのでは?
41名無しさん@恐縮ですID:TIzrCqhN0
>>34
でも自分がそれ以上のバカだからな
50名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8ck0dn6U0
>>34
バカと言っちゃいけないのにバカとしか言葉が出てこないほうがバカなんだよ
完全なるボキャブラリー不足でどうしてバカだと思うか説明して相手を納得させないと
ただ「バカ」「アホ」では小学生のケンカだよ
そういう発言しかできない人はいわゆる発達障害
36名無しさん@恐縮ですID:gVER3qg102023/06/29(木) 14:59:22.84
サロン会員に底辺低脳が多いからヤツらにも刺さるようにゲスで汚い言葉を敢えて使っている、と予想www
39名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nspWjKgL0
>>36
だったらもっと酒やギャンブルや風俗や喫煙もやらないとw
あと自家用車に凝るとか
37名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zVcQsOGo02023/06/29(木) 15:05:47.49
高卒w
38名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HiqR71gf02023/06/29(木) 15:06:06.32
男にも更年期障害があんのよ
42名無しさん@恐縮ですID:UcOuMtf302023/06/29(木) 15:13:13.41
♪盗んだバイクで メスイキで~
43名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cnabkcmL02023/06/29(木) 15:15:19.13
アンガーコントロールしろ
できないなら病気だ
44名無しさん@恐縮ですID:CYYg9ya+02023/06/29(木) 15:19:24.31
豚に何を期待してるのか
45名無しさん@恐縮ですID:raFeS/WC02023/06/29(木) 15:20:18.93
こいつはすぐ切れるクソ親父の代表格
46名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nspWjKgL02023/06/29(木) 15:21:11.38
経験上言えるのは
すぐカッとなるタイプ
すぐ頭に血が上って暴言吐くタイプは

普段から何かと幼稚
自分が一般人より数ランク偉いという大前提で、なかなか思い通りに行かない時のイライラ
深刻な劣等感の裏返しでことあるごとに他人を萎縮させるのが快感

47名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XMHechN202023/06/29(木) 15:21:28.21
なにかと思ったらいまだに野菜食って偉いを掘り返してんのか
ゴミのような記事だな
ネットにゴミを拡散するなよ雑魚メディア
48名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lCUAmWPb02023/06/29(木) 15:26:01.11
反日ラサール石井批判はしないの?

在日企業追放

49名無しさん@恐縮ですID:lCUAmWPb02023/06/29(木) 15:26:30.35
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