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実写版『リトル・マーメイド』アリエル役は「あらゆる人種」をオーディション 監督「強烈でした。彼女を越えられる人はいなかった」

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301名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp02023/06/29(木) 09:16:36.71
日本に市場でなら興行20億~なんて大ヒットなんだけどなぁ
同じ実写のアラジンや美女と野獣が120億円越してて、製作費がそれをはるかに上回るディズニー大作がこれじゃコケ呼ばわりもされるよ
誰もが期待してる様なプリンセスにしておけば…
303名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q02023/06/29(木) 09:18:42.24
アリエルが白人として描かれたアニメ版『リトル・マーメイド』の日本での興行収入は2億7千万円。
311名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>303
アニメのリトルマーメイドは30年前公開なw で、それから30年そのイメージだったのをぶち壊せば客足遠のくわな
思ってたんとチガウんだから
317名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>311
アニメ版『リトル・マーメイド』の興行収入は2億7千万円なのに、この作品にどれだけの熱心なファンが居たと言うのか?それと何が原作を大事にしろだ?原作小説の『人魚姫』とアニメ版『リトル・マーメイド』でもストーリーは違う。そしてアニメ版『リトル・マーメイド』のファンなんて、極々少数。
340名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>317
劇場だけじゃないよ その後当然TV放送だって何回もやってるし
絵本だってキャラクターグッズだって売れてきた その積み重ねが30年分あるのに
それを同じディズニー作品で全く違う見た目でやったら拒否拒絶されて当たり前だろ
本来なら100億超えも期待できたはずなのに それを30億行くか行かないかで喜んでるのがもう哀れ
363名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>340
アリエルが白人として描かれたアニメ版『リトル・マーメイド』の日本での興行収入は2億7千万円
369名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>363
30年前の興行でしょ? で、その後の30年アリエルのイメージはTV放送や絵本やグッズで固まって
そこに同じディズニーが見た目全く違うの出したら拒絶られて当たり前って話してるの
日本語不自由かよw 日本の有名戦国武将を黒人キャラにしたって同じかそれ以上の拒絶反応されるわ
370名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>369
アニメ版『リトル・マーメイド』が、その後、様々な媒体で売れたというソースを出せ。
373名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>370
慣れ親しまれて無きゃ誰もあのアリエルで文句言わんわなw
どこぞのアンケでディズニープリンセスのベスト5には入ってたが
むしろアニメの白人アリエルなんて誰も知らんと言う方が無理あるだろうに
7週前に公開してたマリオとかと良い勝負してたり、周りが興行的に弱い中で3週連続週末興行TOPだったのに
殊更大ヒットって言うのはアラジン越えたって言うあの詐欺CM並に酷い情報操作だわw
377名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>373
ソースだせ
381名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>375
見たくない物から目を逸らせるならそれが最良だよw

>>377
黒人アリエルの話題がこれだけネガティブな物ばかりな事がその証左にならんかね?
つかソースってw そもそものディズニーアニメのアリエルがああなのに、なんで疑問に思わず肯定できるのかが不思議

385名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>381
それとさっさとソースを出せ。
382名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9q8O2u80
>>381
だよねww
文句言うとか頭おかしいよねw
386名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>382
そうw だから普段観にいくDファン層がガン無視
100億超え行けるはずが30億行くか行かないか 60億以上の損害だして喜んでる奴はマゾなのかw
412名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cf5GjTKP0
>>386
リトルマーメイドは原作通りやっても100億は行ったかな
アラジンみたいなリピーター呼ぶストーリーや映像作るのは難しがったと思う
コロナ以降でDisney+で良いやって層が増えたし
吹替の避けられ方見ると80億は狙えただろうが
424名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>412
吹き替えが弱い時点で家族層、所謂ところ子供に逃げられちゃってるしなぁ
洋画好きが頑張ってみてる状況だわ インディにパヤオが始まると席数もグッと減らされるから正直30億ちょっとでフィニッシュだと思うわ
437名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zDgw6Fub0
>>424
リトルマーメイドはアラジンで弱かった
ファミリー層への訴求力はあったと思うから勿体ないとは思う
リトルマーメイドは時間も短くして子供向けに作るべきだった
451名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>437
アラジンは4DXが予想外に良かったんだけどな
上映時間中ずっとアトラクションだったw
リトルマーメイドは上映時間も長いんだよなぁ もっと子供向けに振ればよかたと言うのには同意だわ
417名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9q8O2u80
>>412
まずアニメの段階で原作メタメタだからなw
383名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>381
黒人アリエルに批判的なのは、ネットの一部の連中。多くの日本人は黒人アリエルを受け入れた。だから3週連続1位。
395名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>383
ディズニー大作が閑散期のV3でドヤwww
それも席数ダントツで多いのに僅差でしか勝ってないのにwwww
北米での初週3日の興収がアラジン越えただけなのにアラジン越えのCM連発しといてさ
日本でリトルマーメイド公開する時には北米ですでに勢い無くなって惨敗ムードだったのにw
403名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>395
5ch民には黒人嫌いが多いが、一般の日本人はそんなに黒人を嫌ってない。
406名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uAscWpWa0
>>403
その通りだけど?
だからこそこの実写化に対する批判はまともなんでしょうが
414名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>406
5ch民の多くがまともな訳がないだろ。
407名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6cQg4QQB0
>>403
何かそういうデータあるんですか?
415名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>407
さっき、5chを始めたのか?
426名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HP46pnc/0
>>415
自分だってID真っ赤にして居付いてる5ちゃんの住民じゃん
427名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>426
俺は5chをやっているが、その思想は一般の日本人に近い。
436名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HP46pnc/0
>>427
一般人ねぇ
酔っぱらいが自分は酔ってないって感じかな
ご愁傷様です
440名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>436
5ch民の思想は一般日本人の思想から掛け離れている。それが証拠に『リトル・マーメイド』は3週連続1位
447名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HP46pnc/0
>>440
今日は大名倒産に負けてるねぇ
420名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6cQg4QQB0
>>415
そういう返しはいらないよ
データは?
425名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>420
過去ログ見て来い。
430名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6cQg4QQB0
>>425
過去ログがデータてwwwwwwwwwwww
そんな逃げ方ある?
433名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>430
逃げてない
441名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6cQg4QQB0
>>433
うん、そうだね笑
がんばってねwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
375名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9q8O2u80
>>373
文句言ってるやつっているの?まずW
381名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>375
見たくない物から目を逸らせるならそれが最良だよw

>>377
黒人アリエルの話題がこれだけネガティブな物ばかりな事がその証左にならんかね?
つかソースってw そもそものディズニーアニメのアリエルがああなのに、なんで疑問に思わず肯定できるのかが不思議

385名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>381
それとさっさとソースを出せ。
382名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9q8O2u80
>>381
だよねww
文句言うとか頭おかしいよねw
386名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>382
そうw だから普段観にいくDファン層がガン無視
100億超え行けるはずが30億行くか行かないか 60億以上の損害だして喜んでる奴はマゾなのかw
412名無しさん@恐縮ですID:cf5GjTKP0
>>386
リトルマーメイドは原作通りやっても100億は行ったかな
アラジンみたいなリピーター呼ぶストーリーや映像作るのは難しがったと思う
コロナ以降でDisney+で良いやって層が増えたし
吹替の避けられ方見ると80億は狙えただろうが
424名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>412
吹き替えが弱い時点で家族層、所謂ところ子供に逃げられちゃってるしなぁ
洋画好きが頑張ってみてる状況だわ インディにパヤオが始まると席数もグッと減らされるから正直30億ちょっとでフィニッシュだと思うわ
437名無しさん@恐縮ですID:zDgw6Fub0
>>424
リトルマーメイドはアラジンで弱かった
ファミリー層への訴求力はあったと思うから勿体ないとは思う
リトルマーメイドは時間も短くして子供向けに作るべきだった
451名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>437
アラジンは4DXが予想外に良かったんだけどな
上映時間中ずっとアトラクションだったw
リトルマーメイドは上映時間も長いんだよなぁ もっと子供向けに振ればよかたと言うのには同意だわ
417名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9q8O2u80
>>412
まずアニメの段階で原作メタメタだからなw
383名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>381
黒人アリエルに批判的なのは、ネットの一部の連中。多くの日本人は黒人アリエルを受け入れた。だから3週連続1位。
395名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>383
ディズニー大作が閑散期のV3でドヤwww
それも席数ダントツで多いのに僅差でしか勝ってないのにwwww
北米での初週3日の興収がアラジン越えただけなのにアラジン越えのCM連発しといてさ
日本でリトルマーメイド公開する時には北米ですでに勢い無くなって惨敗ムードだったのにw
403名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>395
5ch民には黒人嫌いが多いが、一般の日本人はそんなに黒人を嫌ってない。
406名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uAscWpWa0
>>403
その通りだけど?
だからこそこの実写化に対する批判はまともなんでしょうが
414名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>406
5ch民の多くがまともな訳がないだろ。
407名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6cQg4QQB0
>>403
何かそういうデータあるんですか?
415名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>407
さっき、5chを始めたのか?
426名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HP46pnc/0
>>415
自分だってID真っ赤にして居付いてる5ちゃんの住民じゃん
427名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>426
俺は5chをやっているが、その思想は一般の日本人に近い。
436名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HP46pnc/0
>>427
一般人ねぇ
酔っぱらいが自分は酔ってないって感じかな
ご愁傷様です
440名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>436
5ch民の思想は一般日本人の思想から掛け離れている。それが証拠に『リトル・マーメイド』は3週連続1位
447名無しさん@恐縮ですID:HP46pnc/0
>>440
今日は大名倒産に負けてるねぇ
420名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6cQg4QQB0
>>415
そういう返しはいらないよ
データは?
425名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>420
過去ログ見て来い。
430名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6cQg4QQB0
>>425
過去ログがデータてwwwwwwwwwwww
そんな逃げ方ある?
433名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>430
逃げてない
441名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6cQg4QQB0
>>433
うん、そうだね笑
がんばってねwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
307名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mvO3GCXt02023/06/29(木) 09:20:35.87
断言していいけど主演が髪を真っ赤に染めた白人美女で胸に貝殻つけて出てきてたら世界的に大ヒットしたと思う
310名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IMpJMUnM02023/06/29(木) 09:22:10.17
なんかすげー必死なポリコレ工作員か映画関係者がいるな
315名無しさん@恐縮ですID:8YTRo64O0
>>310
ブスはブスなのにな
312名無しさん@恐縮ですID:+RHvWf4k02023/06/29(木) 09:25:07.92
ディズニーの大看板が20〜30億では期待外れもいいとこだよ
クソみたいな数字
316名無しさん@恐縮ですID:AI+xfDs302023/06/29(木) 09:26:56.21
たしかに強烈
318名無しさん@恐縮ですID:nGWpKkRS02023/06/29(木) 09:28:53.77
確かに顔面のインパクトは強烈だよな
319名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xK9eU0+d02023/06/29(木) 09:28:58.49
どう見てもリロかモアナのほうが似合うのにな
321名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uAscWpWa02023/06/29(木) 09:31:20.61
なんでそんなウソ言うんだろう
歌が上手いだけのミスキャストでしょ
演技下手なのに自己主張だけは強いし
黒人だから悪いんじゃない人種がなんだろうがアリエルじゃないから皆怒ってるんだって
何もディズニーのリトルマーメイドでやる必要なかったでしょ
アメリカ人はホワイトウォッシュがどうとか言うけど
アジアから見たらやってることはこんなのはブラックウォッシュだし反発起きるの当然
アメリカはいい加減自国の都合を世界に全体に押し付けるのは止めて欲しい
324名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>321
白人崇拝の黄人って格好良いよね。
328名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uAscWpWa0
>>324
その書き込みのどこが白人崇拝なわけ?
ホント差別主義者ってクズだわ
330名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>328
アリエルは絶対に白人でなければならない。

立派な白人崇拝
345名無しさん@恐縮ですID:S+Ll1buz0
>>330
プリンセスと魔法のキスのティアナは黒人じゃなきゃだめだし、モアナはポリネシアンにやって欲しいわ
適材適所で起用して欲しいだけで白人至上主義でもなんでもない
364名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>345
アリエルが黒人でも良いと一般の日本人は考えた。だから日本での興行成績は3週連続1位。
365名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9q8O2u80
>>364
逆に人種でこだわるってなんなん?と思うわW
何色だろうと映画がおもしろきゃいいじゃん?
348名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Jloh4hmp0
>>345
当たり前の話だよな 織田信長や水戸光圀を黒人がやっても白人がやってもコレジャナイって言うかアホかって言われるのと同じ
ディズニーの看板で20億稼いでるだけで大失敗の原因が判ってるのに認めないのはアフォ
339名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G+bUQiT30
>>330
黒人否定してない
仮に創作でウォルト・ディズニー役が黒人だったら?
そゆこと
※ちなみに「ウォルト・ディズニーとの約束」ではトム・ハンクスが演じた
362名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>339
差別主義者だったウォルト・ディズニーを黒人が演じるのも面白い。
332名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uAscWpWa0
>>330
はぁ?反論して来るなら書き込み位ちゃんと読め差別主義者が
360名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>332
読んだ
396名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uAscWpWa0
>>360
ちゃんと読んでないからあんな反論したんでしょうが
ホント差別主義者はロクでもない
400名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>396
俺が差別するのは、差別主義者だけ。
405名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uAscWpWa0
>>400
よくそんな書き込みが平気で出来るよね
408名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9q8O2u80
>>405
まあでも、自分は差別するけど自分を差別はしないでねってのは
通らんよねw
差別主義者は当然それを覚悟してから差別しないとなw
416名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uAscWpWa0
>>408
何言ってるか意味不明な上に
なんであなたがレスして来るわけ?
別IDで書き込みするはずが焦って間違えたの?
422名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9q8O2u80
>>416
ん?差別主義者だけど自分は差別するなっていう言い方が
おかしいって話だが、これそんなに難しい?
413名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>405
正義だからな。
327名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G+bUQiT30
>>324
「差別に屈しない!」てカッコいいね
329名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9q8O2u80
>>327
うん、かっこいい。
差別に屈してヘラヘラ「どうぞ差別してくださいませ」っていう
腰抜けってイライラしないw?
334名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G+bUQiT30
>>329
この映画に関しては黒人差別問題は言ってない
341名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9q8O2u80
>>334
??差別に屈しないのはかっこいいよねってのに同意したんだが?
347名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G+bUQiT30
>>341
わざととぼけてるんだろうがマジレスすると
アリエル役への否定的意見を無条件で「黒人差別だ!」と
聞く耳持たないことへの皮肉な
349名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9q8O2u80
>>347
だからそれと差別に屈しないがどう関係してるんだよw
無条件とか、誰が条件つけてるんだバカw
331名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>327
ありがとう
337名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G+bUQiT30
>>331
都合悪いと「差別だ!」て便利だよね
361名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>337
便利だね。
429名無しさん@恐縮ですID:G+bUQiT30
>>361
この映画は赤字
理由は多くの観客にウケなかったから
ウケなかった主な理由はヒロイン
ヒロインが黒人だから、ではなくアリエルとしての魅力が無かったから
432名無しさん@恐縮ですID:R9q8O2u80
>>429
単に自分の好みの問題w
十年ぶりに言うけど、チラ裏に書いとけw
434名無しさん@恐縮ですID:snJg5Y6q0
>>429
日本ではウケてる。
335名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xBAW+7nF02023/06/29(木) 09:41:52.13
アニメ版と似た容姿じゃないと嫌だって思うのは普通だと思うけど それって差別なのかね
今後のグッズ展開気になる。キャンドゥとかのディズニーグッズがドレッドになったら嫌だな 赤髪アリエルは消えないといいな
342名無しさん@恐縮ですID:LJrx+WqW02023/06/29(木) 09:47:50.85
もうええで
もうええ
344名無しさん@恐縮ですID:v4ZJa1q202023/06/29(木) 09:53:13.16
何と言い訳しようと失敗は失敗だ

ダイバーシティ部門が消滅するのもやむを得ない

346名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3o5SOPvN02023/06/29(木) 09:55:11.15
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