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800名無しさん@恐縮ですID:PhXvGL6P02023/06/26(月) 10:07:47.18
あらあら、コレはw
多くの女性が嫌がる言葉なのに
男性の場合だと「電車に乗って往復する仕事なんて馬鹿でも出来る」と言われた程度の衝撃かしら
808名無しさん@恐縮ですID:iMCvo0KJ0
>>800
そりゃ電車に乗って往復する仕事なんて馬鹿でもできるだろうな
実際はそんなの日常のオマケでしかなく仕事の方が数百倍大変だからな
812名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MA8tjyak0
>>808
と、女性が反論したくなる気持ちがよく分かるでしょう?
お互いに見える所だけが仕事じゃないのね
801名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bCvddzQM02023/06/26(月) 10:08:22.77
出る杭は打たれるのが日本
803名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wd21Y/nm02023/06/26(月) 10:11:39.21
「先に『ありがとうー!』て全力で喜んで『こんな事もやってくれたら嬉しいな』て言われたほうがやってみようかなーってモチベーションになるんやで」

持ち上げて気持ち良くさせてくれたらやってあげるかも?って何様だよ
てめえの子供だろ

807名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Np265NhP0
>>803
それ
自分が褒めて持ち上げて欲しいなら、妻にもソレやってよって思うわ
妻はお前の母親じゃねーよて思う
804名無しさん@恐縮ですID:5TyXoKgO02023/06/26(月) 10:11:44.95
どうでもいいけどそっち系なんだ
日本じゃなくて個人で批判すればいいのに
805名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mMrTP5xn02023/06/26(月) 10:13:05.22
自分は日本人じゃないような物言いですねw
806名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wd21Y/nm02023/06/26(月) 10:14:23.49
「男なんて馬鹿なんだからおだてて使おうぜ」

無能の武器化って言葉があるくらい典型的な手法なんだよね

811名無しさん@恐縮ですID:7tFZa8y30
>>806
女は三日殴らないと狐になる
ということわざがある国があるらしい
813名無しさん@恐縮ですID:WVAE3cZm0
>>811
自国にお帰りください
809名無しさん@恐縮ですID:/JdgM2ZJ02023/06/26(月) 10:18:07.92
母親はいつも頑張ってる!って毎回この手の父親育児にお気持ち表明していくアホってほんと頭おかしいよな
父親くらい稼いでこいよって話だ
810名無しさん@恐縮ですID:mB8UT2s902023/06/26(月) 10:18:15.01
妻をおだてて気分良くして上手く使ってよ
そうしたら、育児も少し手伝ってやるわ

そう言ったら男は発狂するだろうなw
逆の注文は平気でするのに

814名無しさん@恐縮ですID:wd21Y/nm02023/06/26(月) 10:26:46.60
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzdcJShaMAAJ2zZ.jpg

「次はもう手伝うのやめとこうってなるよ」

なんで子育てをやる・やらないを選べると思ってるんだ?
作ったんだからやる一択だろ
お前に選ぶ権利はない

849名無しさん@恐縮ですID:uBp6dKSc0
>>814
最後男はバカだからおだてようなんて下手に出てる風装ってるけど脅迫だな
自分の子どもなのに「手伝うのやめる」って言葉選びがキモ過ぎて
823名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bKEnr6Lg0
>>814
お前が人の働きを算定して仕切る資格もねえだろ!
そんならお前が全てやれ!
815名無しさん@恐縮ですID:VvqergBt0
>>814
ペットに餌やらないと言ってるのと同じなのに
なんで自分の子供にはソレが出来ちゃうのよw
816名無しさん@恐縮ですID:JX6Gx1JO0
>>815
世話をする人(妻)がいるから安心して逃げられるってことだな
妻は自分がやらなかったら子供が死ぬからやるしかなくなる
817名無しさん@恐縮ですID:XfYWtBnd0
>>816
そして、育児放棄したら妻だけが逮捕されて世間から死ぬ程叩かれるわけだ
産んだら負けだね
818名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3k5c2a3O02023/06/26(月) 10:35:09.71
手伝うって言い方がねぇ
819名無しさん@恐縮ですID:xmFoIa0S02023/06/26(月) 10:35:10.99
SNSでごちゃごちゃ言われるのは別に日本だけのことでもない
それが嫌ならコメント閉じとけ
820名無しさん@恐縮ですID:MWU/NDXk02023/06/26(月) 10:35:49.79
家庭の事情でせいぜいパート止まりの仕事や時短勤務せざるを得ない人が少なくないのに
男並みに稼いでみろ!っていかにも結婚事情知らない人の言うことだよね
828名無しさん@恐縮ですID:yHhT8EHI0
>>820
男が財力を独占して女は稼げないような仕組みを男が意図的に作ってるのに「男の方が稼いでるから凄い」って、自作自演もいい所
821名無しさん@恐縮ですID:SdJ1b6gp02023/06/26(月) 10:37:52.87
こいつは認知行動療法受けたほうがいいよ
ごく一部のノイジーマイノリティの悪意を拡大して日本人の総意のように受け止めてるのは危険な思考パターン
822名無しさん@恐縮ですID:3k5c2a3O02023/06/26(月) 10:42:21.07
>自分で頑張ったと言ったら叩かれる国、日本

え、発言の矮小化w
すごい良いお父さんとか評価してくださいとか自分のことを言ったからでしょ

824名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bKEnr6Lg0
>>822
何で否定するの?ひとのやったことを
そんなに価値判断仕切りたいなら全てお前が好きなようにやれ!
825名無しさん@恐縮ですID:M0HFl1v802023/06/26(月) 10:44:28.41
褒めてもらいたいとかの承認欲求辞めればいいじゃん
色んなのいるんだから批判覚悟でやってんだろ
826名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bKEnr6Lg02023/06/26(月) 10:45:03.58
ポジティブな言葉を投げ合えばいいだけじゃん
くだらねー
827名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hVfYkvqX0
>>826
じゃー女を褒めてみなよ
人に要求するなら自分からね
830名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bKEnr6Lg0
>>827
マスゴミがおだてまくってんだろ

つか女も私を褒めてってアピールしまくればいいと思うけど
こいつが日本という言葉使ったのは
男女関係なく無駄に控えめなことを要求されて自己評価低い人ばかりだからじゃないの?

833名無しさん@恐縮ですID:qSTF/WpV0
>>830
そう思えるのなら、先ず自分から相手を褒めてあげて
きっと仲良し夫婦の出来上がりだね
837名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bKEnr6Lg0
>>833
褒めてもらうのを待つんじゃなくて自分から褒めてアピールすることだって出過ぎたことではなく正当な権利だって言いたいのではないの?
エハラが頑張ってるからって奥さんが頑張ってないってことにはならないし
そもそも妻への感謝をこの人が一切言ってないってことはないと思うけど
840名無しさん@恐縮ですID:KOjUTEKu0
>>837
奥さんだけに言えば良かった
世間からも称賛を浴びようとしなければ良かった
ただそれだけだ
829名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hlzJMZYc02023/06/26(月) 10:47:20.08
議員とかに育休とか子育てとか言ってる奴にロクな奴がおらんかったからな
何か裏があると思っちゃう
831名無しさん@恐縮ですID:ali5SIDS02023/06/26(月) 10:49:37.73
まあ気持ちは分かる
結婚したら「手伝う」だけは禁句だからな、自分も手伝う言っただけで嫁がブチ切れて、手伝うじゃなくてお前が全部やれと言われた。
832名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Nyd7I94j02023/06/26(月) 10:51:37.58
織田無道は消えたがこの人まだ残ってたのかという印象しかない
836名無しさん@恐縮ですID:6pcc59NQ0
>>832
えはらひろゆき
834名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1hQB4Bu002023/06/26(月) 10:54:12.47
5人も中出しお疲れ様
835名無しさん@恐縮ですID:YTIo4UB402023/06/26(月) 10:55:54.74
「先に『ありがとうー!』て全力で喜んで『こんな事もやってくれたら嬉しいな』て言われたほうがやってみようかなーってモチベーションになるんやで」

妻も夫もこの姿勢だったら子供が死ぬわけだが

838名無しさん@恐縮ですID:vUOngC9L02023/06/26(月) 10:58:18.10
同じ立場の同僚に2人で任されたプロジェクトを「手伝ったから褒めてくれ」て言われたら、やるのが当たり前て言いたくなるよねw
そしてメインでやってる俺に感謝しろと
843名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bKEnr6Lg0
>>838
お仕事頑張ったから褒めて!ってSNSでフォロワーに言うのは別に間違いでもないだろ
844名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1hQB4Bu00
>>843
それに意見言うのも間違いではない
845名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jbInDrIz0
>>843
メインでやってる「俺」と同じ立場の人から不満の声が上がるのも分かるだろ?
今と同じ状態だ
847名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bKEnr6Lg0
>>845
SNSって自分の話する場所だろ
848名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jbInDrIz0
>>847
フォロワーもソレに意見出来る場所だ
853名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bKEnr6Lg0
>>848
SNSの使い方間違ってる人が寒い意見してるようにしか見えない
自己主張100%でいいんだよ
あとフォロワーならこの人がひごろ妻への感謝を口にしてるかしてないかとかすぐわかるだろうし文句を言うのはフォロワー外の悪意のある人なのでは
SNSなのに私ごとですがーとかトンチンカンなこと言う風潮ってこう言う人たちがつくってんのかな
858名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jbInDrIz0
>>853
ソレは分からん
お互いに意見が言えるのは良いとは思うよ
863名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bKEnr6Lg0
>>858
SNSってその人が日頃どう言う態度取ってるかもわかってる人たちに呼びかけるものだから
切り取りニュースであれこれいうのがおかしいよ
865名無しさん@恐縮ですID:jbInDrIz0
>>863
そうか
そう言う意見もあると思うし間違ってないと思うよ
859名無しさん@恐縮ですID:1hQB4Bu00
>>853
嫌なら非公開か鍵付きにしろや
不特定多数が法律内で意見できるのがSNSだバカw
お前エハラ本人か?w
864名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bKEnr6Lg0
>>859
いやこいつは日本のネットのキモい相互監視に向けて批判意識があるからあえて批判浴びそうなことを言ったと言うことだろう
839名無しさん@恐縮ですID:Zv43WNBU02023/06/26(月) 10:59:36.68
男は労働に必ず見返りを求めるわけよ
育児の報酬として妻の賛辞を求めるわけ
その割には妻は無償労働するのが当たり前だと考えてる
841名無しさん@恐縮ですID:hr+d0X8F02023/06/26(月) 11:02:23.04
官報に載ってるやろ
874名無しさん@恐縮ですID:FzvqOsNR0
>>841
劉だっけ?忘れた
842名無しさん@恐縮ですID:IMpXqjJP02023/06/26(月) 11:03:18.02
たとえば離婚後の養育費は子供と面会する権利を買ってる、家事をするのはセックスする権利を買ってると考えたりするのが男
人としての当然の義務という概念がない
846名無しさん@恐縮ですID:bKEnr6Lg02023/06/26(月) 11:08:41.57
逆に表に向けてやたらと愛妻家アピールしてるやつってなんか怪しく見えてしまうからなあ
これくらいエゴ出してるほうが自然に愛してる感じに見えるかも
まあ子育てやってそれが当たり前ですみたいにいいきれるのもすごいけど本来もっと称賛を浴びるべきことなんだから自然に褒められる環境つくったほうがいいよな
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